Zlatan to Juve? (14 Viewers)

Muha

The Head Physio
Feb 25, 2004
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Trez, Ruud,and Kluivert are all the same .... put 'em in the box and they'll get a goal , otherwise they'll be like ghosts on the pitch
 

#10

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Jul 28, 2002
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as i ahve said before, if we had better quality creation, then trez would
score more. He is our top scorer desipite him being injured and the fact our atacking football involve hit and run, pace and strenght tactics, not creation via great crosses or good passes. Trez, when suppolied adequately is one of the best finishers in the world.
 
Mar 14, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by Juve100% ] ++
well i can see you dont like Trezeguet, for me if he's scoring the goals thats whats important. Not how he scored, if it was head feet, knee etc or from 1,2 or 30 yards. it dont matter.....he scores!!!
Well youre wrong......in 1997 i started to like him,he was in monaco....kicking every kind of goals....spectacular.....i prayed god that he joins Juve one day....that day has come.....3 seasons have gone by.....we won 2 scudettos......and than I started to watch him more objective....not from my heart as a juve and treze fan.....and I realized that he is limited player.....that he can do nothing without a good passer.....well,when Nedved was in the zenith....he did scored.....without him....he sucked....he was the worst part of UEFA CL finals.....missed a penalty,did nothing.
I vote for his stay if we refresh our midfield with a good schemer(not MARESCA) and a winger.....if not....bye-bye....and buy all-round attacker like Sheva(thats comparision onley).
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by barkuss ] ++


God dammn!!! After so many times....i repeat.....Foward MUST know to do something with ball....Trez wants to get rid of it every time ......except when he has an empty goal....than he says: "Thanks guys,that one is mine"
And that makes 90% of his goals....rest of them are headers.....im just waiting tonight to see his two goals of this week......oh,yess.....he is bad in penalty taking too(although its DP job). I like Zlatan cuz he wants to play with ball.....he likes to play 1:1.....it is enjoy to watch him....but that doestn guarantee he will be good in SerieA..........
Oh,did I mention that I cant remembre that he scored in Italian derby,he kicks hat trick to Empoli,two to Modena and that makes him a great striker? He sucked in every important match this season......maybe he scored against Inter before 2 seasons...
I agree with everything you said Barkuss. Trezeguet easily plays well against teams like Modena and Empoli, but when it comes to playing against Milan or Deportivo, Trez is no where to be found except for not knowing what to do when he can't get a pass that he can tap in on the goal line. Trez is just a goal poacher; he is miles behind the dynamic Shevchenko. I would love to see Ibrahimovic come to Juve because he is more like a Sheva than a Trez; he is very capable to take on defenders and score. Another thing about Zlatan is that he has so much more confidence than Trez. I was watching Ajax play AZ this weekend in the Dutch League and Ibrahimovic had a wonder goal; Sneijder on a free kick lofted the ball into the box. The ball looked like it was going to go to the keeper, but Zlatan acrobaticaly flicked his foot up and sensationaly touched the ball into the net! After the goal, Ibrahimovic himself did not even look impressed, almost like he does it all the time. Now that is the type of striker that is successful, just like Sheva.
 

Dominic

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Jan 30, 2004
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You're saying Trez only knows how to score against the weaker teams, but Ibrahomovic playes in the dutch league... where (expect for 3 teams) every team is as weak and the most weaker than Empoli or Modena and still Trez scores on much more of a regular base then Zlatan.
 
Mar 14, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by Dominic ] ++
You're saying Trez only knows how to score against the weaker teams, but Ibrahomovic playes in the dutch league... where (expect for 3 teams) every team is as weak and the most weaker than Empoli or Modena and still Trez scores on much more of a regular base then Zlatan.

You compare things verry bad..........in that theory,Antonio Conte is a better midfielder than Van Der Vaart
 

Slagathor

Bedpan racing champion
Jul 25, 2001
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++ [ originally posted by Dominic ] ++
You're saying Trez only knows how to score against the weaker teams, but Ibrahomovic playes in the dutch league... where (expect for 3 teams) every team is as weak and the most weaker than Empoli or Modena
I beg to differ. Sure it's not a very high standard league but Empoli or Modena is a bit overdone!
 

Stu

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Jul 14, 2002
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++ [ originally posted by ahead ] ++
Trez, Ruud,and Kluivert are all the same .... put 'em in the box and they'll get a goal , otherwise they'll be like ghosts on the pitch
When it comes to goal-getting and finishing, Trez is very good, but that's all, and I mean ALL he has to offer. It may be enough for you, maybe even enough for Lippi, but it isn't for me. The difference between Trezeguet and world-class strikers like Henry, Ronaldo and Shevchenko is that when the service to them isn't good, the world-beating ones that I mentioned will drop deeper, pull wider, roam the pitch, whatever, but the point is that they make an effort to get themselves into the game. Trez doesn't, and that's why more pressure than needed is on the shoulders of Del Piero and Nedved.
 

Stu

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Jul 14, 2002
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I say we sell Trez and DYO to bring in some cash, and get Zlatan and Gilardino, maybe Cavenaghi as well, but Fernando would be loaned out to Parma or Chievo or some other midtable team so as to gain experience. That would leave us with Del Piero, Miccoli, Ibrahimovic and Gilardino upfront, which is definitely an upgrade to what we currently have imo, and if someone gets injured we can promote Chiumento or Benjamin from the Primavera team. Sounds like a good plan, right?
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by barkuss ] ++



You compare things verry bad..........in that theory,Antonio Conte is a better midfielder than Van Der Vaart
That is a great comparison!

I mind you guys that for Ajax Zlatan plays a support striker position most of the time. If he were to play as front runner, he would surely score more goals.

Did you see the goal that he scored this weekend? It was simply stunning! I don't think Trez could do something like that!
 
Sep 1, 2002
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++ [ originally posted by Stuart ] ++
I say we sell Trez and DYO to bring in some cash, and get Zlatan and Gilardino, maybe Cavenaghi as well, but Fernando would be loaned out to Parma or Chievo or some other midtable team so as to gain experience. That would leave us with Del Piero, Miccoli, Ibrahimovic and Gilardino upfront, which is definitely an upgrade to what we currently have imo, and if someone gets injured we can promote Chiumento or Benjamin from the Primavera team. Sounds like a good plan, right?
No theres no penitration in that attack- well i am unsure about Gili- We need Trez to be our outlet and main scorer as he has been since he arrived.

Anyway from what i heared recently theres a good chance that he of the lovely eyes is on his way to Chelski.
 

Stu

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Jul 14, 2002
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Screw penetration, it's this simple: the attacking mids and the support strikers (DP, Mic) use their creativity and technical ability to set up the the out-and-out strikers (Zlatan, Gila). That's the exact same way that we're playing right now, except it's better because Zlatan and Gilardino are capable of getting involved in the build-up play and creating opportunities for themselves and others.
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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I would rather see Trez get sold to bring in Mexes, Rosicky, and Ibrahimovic. It would be well worth it!

Del Piero to Chelsea? I don't think so.
 

Stu

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Jul 14, 2002
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Del Piero to Chelski would be good, but only if we get something like 30m, 25 at least. Don't get me wrong guys, DP is my favourite players, but my opinion is that every player is for sale if the price is right, even il capitano Del Piero.
 
Sep 1, 2002
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++ [ originally posted by Andrea Becchi ] ++
I would rather see Trez get sold to bring in Mexes, Rosicky, and Ibrahimovic. It would be well worth it!

Del Piero to Chelsea? I don't think so.
just how much do you think we are going to get for Trez in todays market?

Surely not enough to bank=roll these buys.

Lovely eyes is the man they want at chelski. The rumour has it that he is one of Romans all time favourite players...so who knows maybe lots of dosh.
Worth it I say, if and this is a big if , it is true.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by Stuart ] ++
Screw penetration, it's this simple: the attacking mids and the support strikers (DP, Mic) use their creativity and technical ability to set up the the out-and-out strikers (Zlatan, Gila). That's the exact same way that we're playing right now, except it's better because Zlatan and Gilardino are capable of getting involved in the build-up play and creating opportunities for themselves and others.
Very well said.

David Trezeguet can do only this: tap in a grass cutter cross along the six and head in a few corners.

What Trezeguet cannot do: Take players on 1v1, make incisive runs, fall back to help the midfield, make good through passes, make good crosses, and take penalties.

I think the bottle is less than half full for Trez.

Ibrahimovic can do it all.
 
Sep 1, 2002
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Zlaza; can he really producethe goals. Ifear not. Too risky to lose a proven goal scorer.
Why Trez ? Surely the man who has singularily fialed to produce should be sacrificed: Mr Magoo himself DYO.
 

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