Zlatan Ibrahimovic (31 Viewers)

[Zacheryah]

he has had 2 good seasons in germany, but the real star is the team behind him

he was choking in europe last season, but doing well this one. altho he has a tendency to have the horrible game where he misses sitters once in a while

 

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The whole team choked on Europe last season to be fair

 

[Zacheryah]

exactly. lewa isnt a carrier, he's a finisher.

llorente and zlatan, carry the team.


according to moggi, that makes llorente and zlatan champions, and lewa not

 

[Red]

exactly. lewa isnt a carrier, he's a finisher.

Lewandowski still leads the line, unlike what a pure poacher generally does.

BVB's goals in Madrid in the group, for instance, were down to him doing the classic centre-forward thing of winning headers that he flicked on into the path of on-rushing midfielders who were breaking beyond Real's defence.

 

[Zacheryah]

he's not among the 3 most influental players

llorente was allways

 

[Red]

That's quite hard to say, given how much BVB are based on the collective unit rather than individuals.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

What type of player is he?

Target man?

 

[Red]

Target man?

Broadly speaking.

How many goals do you expect from a target man, given that a target man has significant responsibilities beyond goal scoring?

Llorente has a goal every 2.2 appearances in the league over the last four seasons (excuding this season where he has barely played) in a team that isn't that great and required a lot from him in terms of link-up play.

Maintaining that average would give him 14 goals (if he made 30 league appearances next season), though playing in a stronger team that should need to him less in build up play should given him every chance to improve on that average, even if 14 goals wouldn't be a bad return for a first season playing in a new league.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Broadly speaking.

How many goals do you expect from a target man, given that a target man has significant responsibilities beyond goal scoring?

Llorente has a goal every 2.2 appearances in the league over the last four seasons (excuding this season where he has barely played) in a team that isn't that great and required a lot from him in terms of link-up play.

Maintaining that average would give him 14 goals (if he made 30 league appearances next season), though playing in a stronger team that should need to him less in build up play should given him every chance to improve on that average, even if 14 goals wouldn't be a bad return for a first season playing in a new league.

I just looked at his overall record for Bilbao, also considering this season and concluded that a ratio of less than 0.33 goals per game wasn't enough. 14 goals is a satisfactory return, I say - not outstanding like I would expect from a player rated so highly.

 

[Salvo]

It just depends really. 14 would be great. If he gets 10 but the team looks far better with him that is fine also.

 

[Suns]

Not wanting Zlatan? Besides the fact that he will finally gets us 20 goals + per season, he will also give us around 15 assists every year.

We play 3-5-2 which means that we have two very isolated strikers up front and nothing else in terms of offense. We use no real wingers(only defenders as wingbacks) or offensive midfielders which basically means that we need to have two really, really good and individually skilled players who can carry the whole offense on their shoulders. Having a machine like Zlatan who is known for doing that year after year is extremely important. Zlatan could also get Llorente going and we'd have 2 twin towers that could do some real damage on the offensive end.

 

[TrezJuve]

Not wanting Zlatan? Besides the fact that he will finally gets us 20 goals + per season, he will also give us around 15 assists every year.

We play 3-5-2 which means that we have two very isolated strikers up front and nothing else in terms of offense. We use no real wingers(only defenders as wingbacks) or offensive midfielders which basically means that we need to have two really, really good and individually skilled players who can carry the whole offense on their shoulders. Having a machine like Zlatan who is known for doing that year after year is extremely important. Zlatan could also get Llorente going and we'd have 2 twin towers that could do some real damage on the offensive end.

Agreed with everything.

 

[ZoSo]

It just depends really. 14 would be great. If he gets 10 but the team looks far better with him that is fine also.

We already have that -

 

[Bjerknes]

The posts in here make me wonder why I even read this site.

Of course anyone sensible would take Zlatan or Lewandowski at Juve.

 

[Mr Chocolate]

The posts in here make me wonder why I even read this site.

Of course anyone sensible would take Zlatan or Lewandowski at Juve.

or any other world class striker. I'll take anyone as long as they score goals

 

[baggio]

I'm honestly on the fence with regard to the Llorente transfer. It's a good piece of business on a free, what I mean is, in terms of his profile. I don't see him as an out and out CF, so while we are looking for an SS/AM/RWF to play alongside him depending on the formation we choose to play, I'm not seeing him solve the issues we've had thus far. Yes, it would make a difference to have somebody with opposing characteristics to complement his play, but I just hope it's not going to find us in a similar situation as playing Vucinic-Gio. Lewa in that regard for me at least would be a better fit technically. Not that we're in the market form him, but that's just the way I see it. I've also got to say, coming off the season Llorente has had where he's barely played, he's going to have to pretty much hit the ground running in Italy, and that's always hard to do when switching leagues, which in this case are tactically different.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

"Good" piece of business?

We are talking about a striker who was coveted by Real Madrid, Barca, Arsenal and Tottenham, and we signed him for FREE. It's fantastic business by us, because even if he doesnt work out for whatever reason (which won't be the case IMO) we can sell him for a profit.

And I think Llorente suits Conte's tactics. Strong, tall target man with great technique and ball control and obviously great in the air. Much better than our other strikers. I just hope we do sign a new creative attacking player as well.

 

[Azzurri7]

Gotze > lewandowski

and he scored less

Nedved > Ferrara

See? We can all put different players with diff characteristics/roles and compare them, it's easy.

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[Trezegol17]

All things aside, Zlatan is a great football player and yes he would be a huge upgrade.

BUT how will our lockerroom wil respond to someone as dominant as Zlatan is? Zlatan would be the first who will step up against conte if he doesn't get's his way.

We don't want to outbalance the squad now do we?

 

[icemaη]

All things aside, Zlatan is a great football player and yes he would be a huge upgrade.

BUT how will our lockerroom wil respond to someone as dominant as Zlatan is? Zlatan would be the first who will step up against conte if he doesn't get's his way.

We don't want to outbalance the squad now do we?

I think Zlatan is a great footballer. I don't think anyone would disagree to that. But with him in the team, he will be the team. There's no denying that. People thinking Conte will change his attitude and make him bleed on the pitch and stuff like that, need to remember that we are talking about a player set in his ways. Not a youngster or someone looking to prove a point. I'd rather have someone like Suarez (as mental as he is) or to a lesser extent Sanchez to compliment our main striker than have Zlatan. We are a strong team based on good individuals, not a good team based on strong individuals. I don't want that to change. I don't want us to be a pass the ball to Zlatan team the next couple of seasons. That'll be a waste of the good work Conte has achieved so far.

Also, Zlatan is a douche