Zlatan Ibrahimovic (13 Viewers)

[Nzoric]

Are you being serious on the bold part? Even Zlatan is not as classless as that to say "I" instead of "we" in those sentences you quoted. It wouldn't even make sense.

Yes, but he formulated the sentences that way. That's how he feels and I think it's great to hear from him. You gotta give him credit where it's due.

 

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[Nzoric]

Its not about caring about the team enough to be loyal and stay or anything sinister/egoistic, but just frankly saying his opinion, an opinion we pretty much all have as facts around here. Which is that Juve team he was part of, was really dominant and did their talking on the pitch. For sure he is a guy that has quite an ego, but also is a very frank/upfront about anything he feels. And you can for sure take his word for it when he says the above, and not just because its to sooth his ego or anything manipulative like that.

Good to see that someone is one the same page. Hating on a person to the point of deliberately ignoring something he says and putting words in his mouth is ignorant.

 

[king Ale]

Did I say he was not loyal to the team because he left us? I just find it ridiculous how people are interpreting his words as if he cares a lot about Juve. It's all about himself, that's what I'm saying. He cares about the titles he won, his record, what he achieved during his time at Juve. It's not a bad thing but it's not something I'd kill myself in happiness and excitement because of.

 

[Nzoric]

Did I say he was not loyal to the team because he left us? I just find it ridiculous how people are interpreting his words as if he cares a lot about Juve. It's all about himself, that's what I'm saying. He cares about the titles he won, his record, what he achieved during his time at Juve. It's not a bad thing but it's not something I'd kill myself in happiness and excitement because of.

And who exactly is killing anyone because of happiness and excitement? I'm just standing up for the poor camel since you guys obviously are on a crusade to turn everything he says into something narcissistic and cheap.

 

[Byrone]

He is self centered, and so what? When we went down it was the start of his career, he was making a big name for himself - if he wasn't a juventino through and through you can't really blame him for leaving? Whats important is that he is sticking up for the scudetti, he could just as easily have written "I fought as hard as I could, too bad the corrupt Juventus management ruined my hard work" if thats how he felt. People give Zlatan too much hate, he can't even say anything without people spinning it around and changing it's meaning into something obscure.

I don't hate Ibra lol, he's an amazing footballer & that's obvious for anyone to see but it's pretty obvious that he defended his achievements, he had to present it as a collected effort.

 

[Nzoric]

I don't hate Ibra lol, he's an amazing footballer & that's obvious for anyone to see but it's pretty obvious that he defended his achievements, he had to present it as a collected effort.

Ok. I think it's utter bullshit for you or anyone else to deliberately misinterpret his words based on your own conceptions of the man.

edit: And we as Juventini are hardly in a position to judge his character, since it all took place at a volatile time during a insanely tragic part of our history. If some club you were neutral towards were being moved down because of fraud convictions, and their 20 something year old wondertalent decided to leave you would hardly be as pissed at him as you are at Ibra.

 

[king Ale]

And who exactly is killing anyone because of happiness and excitement? I'm just standing up for the poor camel since you guys obviously are on a crusade to turn everything he says into something narcissistic and cheap.

Okay.

 

[Byrone]

Ok. I think it's utter bullshit for you or anyone else to deliberately misinterpret his words based on your own conceptions of the man.

edit: And we as Juventini are hardly in a position to judge his character, since it all took place at a volatile time during a insanely tragic part of our history. If some club you were neutral towards were being moved down because of fraud convictions, and their 20 something year old wondertalent decided to leave you would hardly be as pissed at him as you are at Ibra.

I love how you feel your interpretation is absolutely correct, as if you know the man personally. It doesn't take a genius to figure out his end game. He spends so much time talking about himself & how wonderful he is.

Where did you get the notion that i hate him? Please enlighten me, since you have full knowledge of my likes & dislikes.

 

[Nzoric]

I love how you feel your interpretation is absolutely correct, as if you know the man personally. It doesn't take a genius to figure out his end game. He spends so much time talking about himself & how wonderful he is.

Where did you get the notion that i hate him? Please enlighten me, since you have full knowledge of my likes & dislikes.

Well if you liked him you wouldn't be making the point that he's a narcissistic asshole who would spin the Calciopoli scandal just make himself look good? Or is that how you treat people you dig? How can my interpretation be wrong? He clearly said Calciopoli was BS because we fought our asses and we were the best.

Let me ask you this question. What would he have to write in a autobiography to convince you that he actually feels like that team [Juve pre-calciopoli] was robbed? Because I think he did a decent job trying to say that in the passage I quoted.

 

[Byrone]

Well if you liked him you wouldn't be making the point that he's a narcissistic asshole who would spin the Calciopoli scandal just make himself look good? Or is that how you treat people you dig? How can my interpretation be wrong? He clearly said Calciopoli was BS because we fought our asses and we were the best.

Let me ask you this question. What would he have to write in a autobiography to convince you that he actually feels like that team [Juve pre-calciopoli] was robbed? Because I think he did a decent job trying to say that in the passage I quoted.

I can differentiate between Ibra the professional athlete & Ibra the person, much like i can with Ronaldo. Of course he's going to soft soap his ex team along with its fans, did you expect him to only mention his achievements? Which player in their right mind would do that?

Let me ask you this, do you honestly believe Ibra would have defended Juve's honour if the team didn't win the scudetto when calciopoli broke out?

 

[Nzoric]

I can differentiate between Ibra the professional athlete & Ibra the person, much like i can with Ronaldo. Of course he's going to soft soap his ex team along with its fans, did you expect him to only mention his achievements? Which player in their right mind would do that?

Let me ask you this, do you honestly believe Ibra would have defended Juve's honour if the team didn't win the scudetto when calciopoli broke out?

I have no idea. But how can you be sure that he wouldn't?

 

[Byrone]

I have no idea. But how can you be sure that he wouldn't?

Because he would have got nothing out of it. It's not like he cares about the fans opinion.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

"He tried to provoke, and so he tackled me from behind. It is cowardly, you know. They do not see the guy coming, and I went down and was in pain. I was in great pain. But I said nothing. I do not do that in these kinds of situations. I just think that I will give back in the next close combat. Then I will thunder so the guy does not stand up in a long time.

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After the final whistle, I went up to him and grabbed his head and drew him like a disobedient dog, which made Chiellini afraid. I saw it on him.

'You wanted to fight. So why do you shit your pants?

Insecure much, Zlatty?

Just in a day's work for Chiello.

 

[Salvatore]

Whatever Zlatan did after the final whistle, was nothing compared to what he'd received the entire match FFS.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Zlatan tried to put his arm around Chiellini to play it off and Chiellini pulled away with disgust.

 

[Klin]

About the famous incident with Chiellini:



- Google Translate, I'm lazy..

He was as afraid as he currently is when you're facing him now, bitch. And you'll still remain his bitch, bitch.

 

[Nzoric]

Chiellini put the smackdown on him. Was great to see

 

[ZoSo]

Is there an english version?

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

 

[ZoSo]