Zé MAFIA GAME (13 Viewers)

[Alen]

Btw, Osman, why did you vote for me so early in the opening day?
I did absolutely nothing till then to deserve your vote. After you Ze also voted for me and then i had to defend myself. My only options at that point were to vote for Seven (who already had 5 votes) and put myself in better position, vote for you or vote for Ze.
I choose Ze because i had a case against someone who out of nowhere voted for me and with all these moves we only created a mess which made all of us suspicious to the others and we helped the gansgters.

What i'm trying to say is that your vote against me fucked up everything for the civilians.

 

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[HelterSkelter]

I had Seven,Fred and Hoori on my list from the start

I only got Hoori wrong.

 

[Alen]

I had Seven,Fred and Hoori on my list from the start

I only got Hoori wrong.

Seven was a civilian.

Cuti, Fred, Xsempre, Wahdan and juve o'curr were the gangsters.

 

[Sadomin]

Bah, missed this. Someone make a new one.

 

[Alen]

Bah, missed this. Someone make a new one.

There is a new one. Look for it.

 

[HelterSkelter]

Oh ok.i didnt read the last few pages

I still had a success rate of 33%

 

[SABSAB]

Now thank you guys for a good game.
Screw you Osman for not staying in your grave.
Sorry Alen for killing you the first Night.
I really enjoyed this game and I hope you enjoyed my work.

 

[Alen]

Sorry Alen for killing you the first Night.

I was going to be whacked anyway sooner or later.
You did a brilliant job as a narrator.

 

[Osman]

Alen, there was little to go on at the beginning, but it was between you and Ze, and if you see back then, I advocated for no lynch, but No ONE wanted to follow me on that (and also posted Cuti and curr were very supicious, but didnt have much agreement on that). And there is a certain pattern of behaviour a poster with a special role or a G posts as, and I saw hints of that from you, like you have something to hide (though turned out more as the D then a G). Didnt think you were that off, but you were defenitely more off then Ze (who was obvious C, despite the confusion with the tiff taffs with Seven at the beginning). Thought it would be more telling to vote for you, how you behave, defend yourself, if you are put on the spot, but somehow you didnt defend yourself that strongly, disregarded you as a special role then because I thought by now you would given clear clear hints or flat out say it, before getting lynched.

Would defenitely have prefered no lynch in first day, since its pretty much obvious that its civilians that get lynched most of the times at the start. But everyone were too blood thirsty to heed that


But even if you werent lynched, you would have been whacked that night (instead of me...). Thats another thing, the whack orders were veeeeeery predictable, Salman you should really have protected a few of them, defenitely ze and Seven Was very obvious by then the clear pattern of the whackings, trying for Alen, then going for me instead, then Red, players they deemed were main threats. Then Eddy because he questionned Fred a bit, plus he was subbed into the game basically, and that more or less confirmed he was a Civilian. Plus, the Gangsters aaaaaaallways are nervous about getting a whack order wrong and dont try for the BG much unless they are sure he is protecting someone important, like the detective.

 

[SABSAB]

I was going to be whacked anyway sooner or later.
You did a brilliant job as a narrator.

I already forgot that
Thanks you

 

[Osman]

Agreed on you doing a splendid job And sorry, but it was too ridicolous seeing how the thread was more dead then us zombies


And next narrator should be made clear too, should do more thourough rules draft to take away confusions. The gangsters arent allowed to send a whack order after 00.00. Midnight is the deadline like with any other deadlines like voting, investigating and protecting.

 

[Alen]

Alen, there was little to go on at the beginning, but it was between you and Ze, and if you see back then, I advocated for no lynch, but No ONE wanted to follow me on that (and also posted Cuti and curr were very supicious, but didnt have much agreement on that). And there is a certain pattern of behaviour a poster with a special role or a G posts as, and I saw hints of that from you, like you have something to hide (though turned out more as the D then a G). Didnt think you were that off, but you were defenitely more off then Ze (who was obvious C, despite the confusion with the tiff taffs with Seven at the beginning). Thought it would be more telling to vote for you, how you behave, defend yourself, if you are put on the spot, but somehow you didnt defend yourself that strongly, disregarded you as a special role then because I thought by now you would given clear clear hints or flat out say it, before getting lynched.

Hoori fucked me up.
Before revealing my role as a detective i wanted to try and turn things in my favor alone, without revealing anything. And i did well. I had no idea who the gangsters are so i had to sacrifice a random player, who would have almost certainly been less valuable than me (i was the detective). I choose Ze and from Alen 5: Ze 2, i made it Ze 7: Alen 4.
Then at 7:4 you asked me if i have a special role so you could save me. There was absolutely no need for me to admit that i have a special role. You could've been a gangster that knows i'm a civilian but is trying to find out if i'm more than just a civilian.
If the result wasn't looking good for me at that point, i'd have told you that i'm a detective because i'd have had nothing to lose. But the result was good.
It was 7:4 and it was 00:00 CET. I did what i had to do.

Then SabSab gave two more minutes while Hoori changed her vote from Tahir to me and the ameba also voted for me.
I was literally fucked there. I had no time to do anything anymore.

 

[Osman]

Hehehe thats true, I forgot that, your sweety stabbing you in the back at the last second That was real bizzare, didnt think she was a possible G until that point, it was too bizzare for a civilian to do that.

FYI even if it was weird circusmtances, as a detective, your main task should be to find the Bodyguard, even if you were unlucky enough to be whack target already at first night.

 

[Zé Tahir]

Before we close this thread, i'd say two words about the two players who played the game really well.


1. Fred
He played us all.
I said that some circumstances helped him a lot, and it's true. The other 4 gangsters were standing in the shadows, no-one noticed them in the opening 3-4 days. That made Fred's job really easy. He didn't have to protect his partners and thus reveal his role. All he had to do was to watch the active civilians accuse eachother and act like a lost, confused civilian.
Nonetheless he did it brilliantly.

2. Seven
- As all the other civilians he started from zero and the confussion at the start was normal. All he could do was to accuse random players and see if they'll make a mistake. Since the gangsters were quiet, he ended up accussing civilians and it took him nowhere.
But the moment he saw that Fred is a gangster, he played the game better than all the other remaining players and i think that he was the only one who successfully predicted who the remaining gangsters are.

Of course, congrats to the civilians who remained alive. That fact itself says that they played the game well.

You can't be serious

 

[Osman]

If you mean the Seven part, I agree

I would gather even Seven would agree

 

[Zé Tahir]

Yeah, that's exactly what I mean. And I'm not saying this because of the usual Jahl bashing.

 

[Osman]

Why is he called Jahl?

And yeah I know you arent, never took part in those "bashings" much, not biased, but gotta disagree with that assessment and say ze above just seemed asskissery

 

[Alen]

You two don't know what happened, that's why you're laughing.

Seven kept voting for Ze, but then in the end of the 4th day he changed his vote to Fred. I asked him why and he told me that he realized that Fred is a gangster and that if Fred is proven to be a gangster then the other 4 gangsters simply have to be some of those who weren't active till now, with juve o'curr and Cuti among them.

 

[Zé Tahir]

He changed his vote because I PM'd him, Dan, and salman. I told them all to trust me and to vote for Fred.

 

[Osman]

Well didnt take much to realise that (Fred started out well in first day, and covered his ass a bit most of the time later on, but it was pretty obvious he was someone who was on manipulation mode), not privy to PMs, but generally in posts seemed like Seven was played by Fred too easily for a quite a while.

And besides Fred, rather obvious all the rest were the inactive ones. PMed SABSAB night I was whacked, and said pretty sure curr (weird he survived for so long), cuti and Fred are Gs. Wahdan and xsem only started posting in last 2 days, and there were too many inactive and anonymous posters to pinpoint those two.