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Geof

Senior Member
May 14, 2004
6,740
#1
So, that's the team for this year. At least until January. No Cassano, no Mancini in the end.
Luciano added the following players to the team: Abbiati, Balzaretti, Chiellini, Kovac, Glastone, Giannichedda, Vieira and Mutu.

The objective is clear: winning a major trophy. CL or Scudetto. Is this team gonna make it?


Goalkeepers

32 - Christian Abbiati
1 - Gianluigi Buffon
12 - Antonio Chimenti
22 - Landry Bonnefoi

Defenders

14 - Federico Balzaretti
2 - Alessandro Birindelli
28 - Fabio Cannavaro
3 - Giorgio Chiellini
6 - Robert Kovac
7 - Gianluca Pessotto
21 - Lilian Thuram
19 - Gianluca Zambrotta
27 - Jonathan Zebina
?? - Gladstone

Midfielders

20 - Manuele Blasi
16 - Mauro German Camoranesi
8 - Ferreira Emerson
23 - Giuliano Giannichedda
11 - Pavel Nedved
24 - Ruben Olivera
4 - Patrick Vieira

Forwards

10 - Alessandro Del Piero
9 - Zlatan Ibrahimovic
18 - Adrian Mutu
17 - David Trezeguet
25 - Marcelo Danubio Zalayeta

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GK is a worry for the first months. But I think we can rely on Abbiatti for now. The really big CL games will be played with Gigi (hopefully).

Defence has been strengthed. It's a riddle to me why we didn't keep Masiello and Tudor, but Chiellini and Kovac are reliable. I can't the judge Balzaretti and Gladstone yet, but I heared good things about the first one.

The midfield is my major worry. Where is the creativity?? Emo, Vieira: great players, but not creative. Giannichedda and Blasi will sub them when needed. The only 'offensive' minded mids are Camo, Nedved and Olivera. And none of them is a creative playmaker. Plus, Olivera is not good backup if one of Camo or Nedved gets injuried. In that case we'll have to shift Zambrotta or Chiellini to the midfield... So I think the best thing to do is a 4-3-3

The attack is the same as last year, plus Mutu. That will allow us to play a trident. With the eternal question of DP or not DP. And we'll be dependent on Trezegol's injuries. Let's hope for the best.

--------------Abbiati*------------------

Zebina**---Thuram--Canna-------Zambro

------Camo---Vieira----Emo-------------

-------Zlatan--Trez----DP/Mutu-------

*: Gigi as soon as he's fit.
**: as he's injuried for two weeks, Pessotto will do the job I guess?
 

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baggio

Senior Member
Jun 3, 2003
19,250
#2
Competitive unit no doubt. I think Capello's stubbornness is all that stands in the way of a title this season. He's got to get comfortable with the theory of a 4-3-3 because like it has been rightfully pointed out, the midfield has little or no creativity in its wake. Mutu could play out wide left on a 4-4-2 but I think he'd be equally if not more effective behind the front two. Vieira is going to just bring a little sturdiness to the line up which will by and large remain unchanged from last season, which is a good thing in my opinion. And as much as I think he's a great signing for our squad, I think the key man continues to be Adrian Mutu. All I hope for though is Capello giving him a decent crack at it. No pun intended.
 

Stu

Senior Member
Jul 14, 2002
17,557
#3
Certainly a good enough squad to be successful on all fronts. Buffon's injury is undoubtedly a worry but with a defence and defensive midfield as sturdy as ours we should be able to make do with Abbiati between the sticks. I thought that either Tudor or Masiello should have stayed but we have a reasonable amount of depth at the back. If this side has a weak area it would have to be the midfield. We have five very good forwards who can get goals for us but they need decent service. Camoranesi, Emerson, Vieira and Nedved are fine players but only Mauro is really creative. Emo and Paddy will make the short simple passes all day long, Nedved too, but when it takes more than that to break teams down we're going to struggle.

In the end the key man will be Capello. If he sets out his stall correctly it could be a glorious year for the Old Lady of Italian football but if he doesn't learn from last season Juve fans all around the world might end up having disappointment etched across their faces as opposed to elation.

Capello's defensive set-up and negative tactics saw us drop points in the league and crash out of the CL last term and if we are to do well this year something will have to change. There's still no creative force in the centre of midfield which I think will be a major stumbling block come the latter stages of the Champions League. When quality teams with decent backlines decide that they're going to get men behind the ball and defend for extended periods like Liverpool did in the Delle Alpi we struggle. We're far too predictable in midfield and the lack of cutting edge offensively in the centre of the park makes the strikers jobs that much more difficult. So what can we do about this? TBH the answer stares a number of us straight in the face; switch to 4-3-3.

IIRC we won every single game last season when the formation was 4-3-3 from the beginning of the match. In the straight 4-4-2 our strikers tend to be isolated and we don't create as many chances as I feel we need to, but with the 4-3-3 one of the front three can provide a link between midfield and attack, something we've lacked since Lippi's departure. Del Piero and Mutu have the creativity and technical skills to make things happen in that crucial area somewhere between the middle and attacking thirds of the football pitch. Having one of them playing deeper than Ibra and Trez also gives the opposition's defensive midfielder something to think about, Vieira and Emerson don't do that for us in the 4-4-2 because Capello has them preoccupied with their defensive duties.

Another thing that I believe should be addressed by the coaching staff is our habit of scoring and defending the lead. Surely by now Capello should have realised that it has the potential to backfire and against the smaller teams in Serie A and even the European heavyweights we should do everything in our power to stay on the front foot. Sitting back and allowing teams to come at you is a basic form of suicide once the opposition have a good distributer of the football in midfield. We allow teams to focus on how they are going to get the equalizer when we should be making them ask themselves how they are going to prevent us from scoring a second.

With this team, the correct tactical instructions, and a positive mentality we could be serious CL contenders this season:

Abbiati (Buffon)
Zebina - Thuram - Cannavaro - Zambrotta
Camoranesi - Emerson - Vieira
Ibrahimovic - Trezeguet - Del Piero/Mutu
 

sateeh

Day Walker
Jul 28, 2003
8,020
#4
Well the difference between last year and this year is that we have greater depth in the squad.Capello has many options, with competitave players that could produce wonders.

The important thing for me is that the young kids like chiellini and balzeratii get a crack, and that they wont be loaned out next season without playing this season.

I hope one of them play in the RB postion(and am not bashing pessoto, he was great) i just want to see how do they do.

I say the squad has depth cuz we have cover in almost everywhere in the park.Defense&midfield& forwards.

I think that capello should really think about the three man attack which is perfect utilization for the players he has.
If he wont think about the 4-4-3 then he should transform either alex or mutu into midfield for sometime or even give olivera a shot.

Hes going to have to think of something cuz neddy gives 110% every game but sometimes thats not enough
 

Juve_The_Best

Senior Member
Nov 18, 2004
1,871
#5
To be honest with you, i can't judge the binaconeri from the first round. we do have Good squad so far and i guess our team is much better than the last season of course with new players joined (Vieira-mutu)

just wanna see juve for at least 6 matches so we can judge logicaly !

i am sure that capello after winning his first scudetto with juve will keep going on to increase the efficiency of the team match by macth.
 
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Geof

Geof

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May 14, 2004
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  • Thread Starter #6
    ++ [ originally posted by sateeh ] ++

    If he wont think about the 4-4-3 then he should transform either alex or mutu into midfield for sometime or even give olivera a shot.
    4-4-3? You meant 4-3-3, right? ;)
     

    #10

    Senior Member
    Jul 28, 2002
    7,377
    #7
    -------------------Gigi/Abiati----------------

    --Rambo------Thuram---Canna---Chiellini


    ----------------Emo------Paddy-------------


    --Camo-----------------------------Mutu-------


    --------------Zlatan-------Trez---------------

    Nuff said.
     

    Mr. Gol

    Senior Member
    Sep 15, 2004
    3,472
    #8
    It makes more sense to use Camoranesi as a right midfielder, that way Mutu has less defense tasks and can play more up front. I fully agree with mist people about the 4-3-3 system, Nedved is already 33, we can't rely on him forever. Adding either Del Piero or Mutu to the attack will give the team much more options up front.
     

    Juno

    Escape Artist
    Apr 23, 2005
    1,505
    #9
    ++ [ originally posted by John #10 ] ++
    -------------------Gigi/Abiati----------------

    --Rambo------Thuram---Canna---Chiellini


    ----------------Emo------Paddy-------------


    --Camo-----------------------------Mutu-------


    --------------Zlatan-------Trez---------------

    Nuff said.
    sexy lineup
     

    GordoDeCentral

    Diez
    Moderator
    Apr 14, 2005
    70,840
    #10
    Abbiati

    Thuram Canna Zambrotta


    Emerson


    Camo Viera Nedved


    Ibra Trez Del/Mutu



    Emerson insurance policy to counters. Zambro and Neddy making it an impenetrable left wing. Vieira roaming back and forth. I think it's pretty ballannced on paper. Not sure if it will ever happen.
     

    inferis

    Senior Member
    Jun 5, 2005
    666
    #11
    ++ [ originally posted by Altair ] ++
    Abbiati

    Thuram Canna Zambrotta


    Emerson


    Camo Viera Nedved


    Ibra Trez Del/Mutu



    Emerson insurance policy to counters. Zambro and Neddy making it an impenetrable left wing. Vieira roaming back and forth. I think it's pretty ballannced on paper. Not sure if it will ever happen.
    3 man defense with rambo?... that would underutilize rambo man... this formation wont happen.. counterattacks usually started to be dangerous when the opposition plays the ball wide on flanks... emo cannot cover whole job... and if rambo is still on the attack we will be exposed with 2 men or maybe 1 at the back... suicide.
     

    lestat_1987

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    Aug 31, 2005
    1,373
    #12
    yeah...rambo need´s to be on a 4 man defense so he can focus on attacking through the sides...he´s advances are lethal. I think Emo needs to play with Viera on defensive midfield and we´ll leave the creative part to Nedved and Camo...but I´d like to see Mutu creating something too....Hopefully Del Piero can be creative as well. Forwards: Trez & Ibra...doesn´t get anyu better. I think this is our year. But I´ll miss Massiello and Tudor...
     

    GordoDeCentral

    Diez
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    Apr 14, 2005
    70,840
    #15
    ++ [ originally posted by John #10 ] ++
    -------------------Gigi/Abiati----------------

    --Rambo------Thuram---Canna---Chiellini


    ----------------Emo------Paddy-------------


    --Camo-----------------------------Mutu-------


    --------------Zlatan-------Trez---------------

    Nuff said.
    I wonder where our biggest summer acquisition is
     

    djleli

    Senior Member
    Aug 12, 2004
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    #16
    i stand for the 4-3-2-1 formation:

    ---------------abbiati------------
    zebina--thuram--canna-zambro
    ------camo---emo----viera---------
    ----ibrahimovic/del piero---mutu/neddved--
    -----------trezeguet-------------
     

    #10

    Senior Member
    Jul 28, 2002
    7,377
    #17
    ++ [ originally posted by Altair ] ++


    I wonder where our biggest summer acquisition is
    Paddy ?? he is right next to Emo.

    leli: id prefer rambo at rb than zebina.
     

    lestat_1987

    Senior Member
    Aug 31, 2005
    1,373
    #18
    -----------gigi/abbiati-----------
    rambo-thuram-canna-chiellini
    ---------------viera-------------
    emo-------------------nedved
    -----------mutu/alex---------
    ----trez----------ibra--------
     

    #10

    Senior Member
    Jul 28, 2002
    7,377
    #19
    ++ [ originally posted by lestat_1987 ] ++
    -----------gigi/abbiati-----------
    rambo-thuram-canna-chiellini
    ---------------viera-------------
    emo-------------------nedved
    -----------mutu/alex---------
    ----trez----------ibra--------
    Chief...emo right wing ...u sure??

    The defence is impeccable perfection :D
     

    lestat_1987

    Senior Member
    Aug 31, 2005
    1,373
    #20
    i saw him play some games for the nt team there...he played some for roma too in emergencys he did a decent job. Actually I´d put him in the defensive midfield with Viera and Mutu/Alex with paddy on creative/attacking midfield....but then our wings would be uncovered...I fully trust rambo to do a great defending and attacking job ...chiellini probably too....but is his fitness gonna last for that job?
     

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