I though so too. But I am having to rethink that because to me ends justify means.
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basically, i think Juve can do better, not so much on the part of the players - i think (including Molinaro) all the boys are playing their hearts out, the thing that bothers me is the coaching, no matter how good your players are, if the coach doesn't have a decent piece of brain in his head, then you can kiss every other good thing 'bye-bye'. Claudio Ranieri makes a complete mess of his squad's abilities, and he continously drowns our hopes. If he remains at the helm of our team next season, I think strongly we won't be able to win a single cup. Until he leaves Juve, we might never be well again. The guys have the spirit - Ranieri must display some guts, Juve is not where you develop it. From all I've seen this season - he's a sorry ass learning loser! I mean Guss Hiddink (barely 4 weeks into his appointment beat Ranieri). CR is so awful.
I dont think we can compare now between mourinho and ranieri as Inter have way more finances and way better squad quality (+ the fact that they are coached by mourinho + refs 
) and a squad that is able to win 3 scudettos in a row.
on the other hand ranieri is working with the remnants of a great team + youth squad players trying to prove themselves.. way less money than mourinho.
Lets compare them when both teams are almost equal financially and in terms of squad quality.
I doubt that if we had a coach better than ranieri we'd win the scudetto.. i think ranieri is one of the best out there that can build teams from scratch that can go on to compete at the highest levels. I'd say we keep him until the squad is complete and most holes are filled.. we make use of what he does best then we can replace him for a coach that can win trophies.
Ranieri is more about building rather than winning... you cant win without building.
Look at chelsea... he created a squad from scratch that was able to finish second in the EPL and in the semi finals of the CL.. as soon as roman abramovic thought "oh this squad is ready to win something" he sacked him.. and next year he was the champion of england.
lets do the same.. make him build.. give him the transfers he wants.. until the squad is ready.. then bring in a winning coach to add in the final touches.
) and a squad that is able to win 3 scudettos in a row.on the other hand ranieri is working with the remnants of a great team + youth squad players trying to prove themselves.. way less money than mourinho.
Lets compare them when both teams are almost equal financially and in terms of squad quality.
I doubt that if we had a coach better than ranieri we'd win the scudetto.. i think ranieri is one of the best out there that can build teams from scratch that can go on to compete at the highest levels. I'd say we keep him until the squad is complete and most holes are filled.. we make use of what he does best then we can replace him for a coach that can win trophies.
Ranieri is more about building rather than winning... you cant win without building.
Look at chelsea... he created a squad from scratch that was able to finish second in the EPL and in the semi finals of the CL.. as soon as roman abramovic thought "oh this squad is ready to win something" he sacked him.. and next year he was the champion of england.
lets do the same.. make him build.. give him the transfers he wants.. until the squad is ready.. then bring in a winning coach to add in the final touches.
Sorry to sound like Jack now, but however thought we ever had any title hopes, was delusional!!
Our announced and real target has always been to rank first after Inter.
Our board said we only want to improve from last year's 3#
and since we cant cope with the champions, the 2# was the best we could get.
We had many problems to face, but so did our opposition, Serie A as never been so weak before and it has never been so easy to reach where we are now, despite being marginally incompetent, comparing our current team to the average seria A team that used to rank at the 2-3# places...
If we fail to get the 3rd place, our season would be a total failure.
We have sacrificed our future plans, to gain momentary advantage for this season,
we have judged that the need to rank higher than last year, is greater than our need to really build up a competitive team. Our transfer strategy has shown that.
I never agreed with that managerial decision, but that was our plan and realistic targets anyway, achieving that, would make our season successful, failing that, will be double failure...
Our announced and real target has always been to rank first after Inter.
Our board said we only want to improve from last year's 3#
and since we cant cope with the champions, the 2# was the best we could get.
We had many problems to face, but so did our opposition, Serie A as never been so weak before and it has never been so easy to reach where we are now, despite being marginally incompetent, comparing our current team to the average seria A team that used to rank at the 2-3# places...
If we fail to get the 3rd place, our season would be a total failure.
We have sacrificed our future plans, to gain momentary advantage for this season,
we have judged that the need to rank higher than last year, is greater than our need to really build up a competitive team. Our transfer strategy has shown that.
I never agreed with that managerial decision, but that was our plan and realistic targets anyway, achieving that, would make our season successful, failing that, will be double failure...
One of the things of which im so proud of Juventus is that they are the only club from all the top clubs in Europe that have in every game, minimum 7 players that are Italians. I am so glad that they are like that and not "Juventus International".
Inter has 2: Balloteli, Materazzi
Chelsea has 4 : Lampard, Cole, Cole, Terry
Man Utd has 5 : Ferdinand, Nevile, Scholes, Rooney, Carrick
Liverpool has 2 : Caragher, Gerrard
So out of, i dont know, 17 players these clubs have 2 to 5 players from the league in which they play. That pisses me off and at the same time makes me proud of Juventus.
FORZA JUVENTUS!!
Inter has 2: Balloteli, Materazzi
Chelsea has 4 : Lampard, Cole, Cole, Terry
Man Utd has 5 : Ferdinand, Nevile, Scholes, Rooney, Carrick
Liverpool has 2 : Caragher, Gerrard
So out of, i dont know, 17 players these clubs have 2 to 5 players from the league in which they play. That pisses me off and at the same time makes me proud of Juventus.
FORZA JUVENTUS!!
