they don't really need him either, they're stacked and the guy wants to leave.
exactly... another reason why i don´t think that he should be valued at 23m.
what you think would be a fair price? 23 sounds good to me, anything under 15 would be a steal
imo his value should be around 18, maybe 20. i don´t see him as a world beater. talented for sure but will never be world class. if he stays at bayern i´m 100% sure that they will rather spend a fortune to replace ribery and robben instead of playing him. having said that: he is a good player and would probably suit us very well.
so if juve were planning to buy him outright i guess i wouldn´t be thrilled if the price went above 20, even in today´s market. after reading the article again it seems like we are going for loan+option again which would obviously drive up the price. i can´t see bayern accepting that but if they do, i think 23m alltogether (loan+transfer fee) would be borderline/a little too much but maybe acceptable, given our current and next year´s position. 3m loan + 23m option almost sounds like a ripoff, though.
feel free to disagree. i know many here rate him very highly.
I actually think 23 million is quite reasonable. We can negotiate and bring the price down to 20.
exactly. it´s a reasonable price for bayern to ask at the start of a negotiation...