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After the Poulsen signing, will Secco, Blanc and cie still buy Xabi Alonso?

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Juventinho

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If you dislike the general opinion on this forum and dislike how the majority of the members are, why do you keep coming back? I thought "your" forum was the best thing since sliced bread.
Check out the number of posts i made over 4 years, i mostly come here for the news and because i enjoy reading the posts of some members, however a lot of times while doing that some opinions really provoke me so i reply and i gotta admit it's fun, more like a guilty pleasure. Like those anti-board dreamers who think we have unlimited cash and are still living back in the past when we had Moggi. Not to mention the Football Managers kids.
 

Enron

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Check out the number of posts i made over 4 years, i mostly come here for the news and because i enjoy reading the posts of some members, however a lot of times while doing that some opinions really provoke me so i reply and i gotta admit it's fun, more like a guilty pleasure. Like those anti-board dreamers who think we have unlimited cash and are still living back in the past when we had Moggi. Not to mention the Football Managers kids.
I have to give it to you. You do keep the discussion going.:tup:
 

Juventinho

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I wish we would keep him, he is actually my favorite player on the roster next to Carra. He's a great player. But it comes down to business.

Of course there are much less important players to sell, but none of them can fetch the price that Xabi can.

Think about it. Our biggest paydays would be Gerrard, Torres, Mascherano, Alonso, and Babel. Gerrard is obviously a no sale as is Torres for obvious reasons. Both are indispensable to the club. We just dropped a crap ton of money on Mascherano and in addition he is our only true DM. (Lucas is more of a deep playmaker) There is no way we could get what we paid for him anyway. Babel is a winger which we need who has massive potential. No way we will sell him. The obvious choice falls to Xabi Alonso. He is a highly professional player who understands the working of modern football. He has featured in the squad when healthy and has done very well. He is not and has never been a bench player, therefore he has considerable value. Enter in a win hungry Juventus club looking to spend moderately on a strong controlling midfield and the possible FIFA 5-6 rule and you get the workings of a transfer.
Probably it's the last bit i highlighted but if he is willing to exploit that then i was right that he is a cvnt ;).
 

Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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He's talking about a different rule. Not the one you think.
He's talking about the potential FIFA rule where 6 of the players in the starting XI must be from the same country as the team.
 

Juventinho

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He's talking about a different rule. Not the one you think.
He's talking about the potential FIFA rule where 6 of the players in the starting XI must be from the same country as the team.
I thought it was a uefa rule that will be implied only in the Champions League leaving leagues to their respective federations to decide.
 

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My bad then, i thought he was talking about the new transfers rule that give players over 28 yo the right to switch clubs after paying half their contracts back.
No it's not that. I think Behrami is doing that though. Xabi said he wants to stay in Liverpool, but as a professional he understands that football is a business and that he will do what the club asks. You can't really have a personality better than that.
 

Juventinho

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Yeah, you're talking about that stupid FIFA Article 17
Actually it's kinda fun, because Clubs looking for true champions will not accept a player who would exploit that rule. It will leave the likes of Chelski and Real Madrid stealing each other players and will help limit the huge price inflation in today's market.

Edit: And if anyone in Juve is willing to leave that way then i will be glad he left and say good riddance.
 

Juventinho

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No it's not that. I think Behrami is doing that though. Xabi said he wants to stay in Liverpool, but as a professional he understands that football is a business and that he will do what the club asks. You can't really have a personality better than that.
Well maybe you're right but i only called him a cvnt because i think he's overrated and when you think someone is overrated and people keep hyping him up, you end up hating the guy. I guess almost every football fan has one of those in his agenda.
 

Alen

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Actually it's kinda fun, because Clubs looking for true champions will not accept a player who would exploit that rule. It will leave the likes of Chelski and Real Madrid stealing each other players and will help limit the huge price inflation in today's market.

Edit: And if anyone in Juve is willing to leave that way then i will be glad he left and say good riddance.
The big clubs aren't exploiting this rule, yet. There are many talks about Milan and Ronaldinho doing that, but it looks like there was a gentlemen deal between the big teams throughout Europe not to exploit the rule.
They are aware that if they do that to some team, the same thing can be done to them by some other team.
Newspapers like to use the FIFA article 17 for their stories and transfer speculations , but in reality this clause is rarely (if ever) used by the big teams and the players.
 

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Well maybe you're right but i only called him a cvnt because i think he's overrated and when you think someone is overrated and people keep hyping him up, you end up hating the guy. I guess almost every football fan has one of those in his agenda.
It's not really fair to call him a cunt as his recent coverage isn't his fault. The media do what they want. You can't blame the club for trying to sell him for the highest amount possible. It's business.

Either way he's far less of a cunt than say Ibrahimovich, Materazzi, or Ronaldo.
 

Enron

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The big clubs aren't exploiting this rule, yet. There are many talks about Milan and Ronaldinho doing that, but it looks like there was a gentlemen deal between the big teams throughout Europe not to exploit the rule.
They are aware that if they do that to some team, the same thing can be done to them by some other team.
Newspapers like to use the FIFA article 17 for their stories and transfer speculations , but in reality this clause is rarely (if ever) used by the big teams and the players.
I read something last week about Behrami saying he is seriously looking into article 17 should Lazio decide not to sell him to interested clubs.
 

Nenz

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Apr 17, 2008
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Juventinho... Xabi may not be at the top of his class as far as midfielders go. But you understand like anyone else, we're in a rebuilding faze so Xabi Alonso is as good as it gets for us right now. Excuse us for being excited that we're improving our side.

Chiillll out!
 

Boudz

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Liverpool prepare improved £14m offer in battle for Barry

Liverpool are to intensify efforts to prise Gareth Barry from Aston Villa by increasing their £10m offer to bring the England midfielder to Anfield. Their manager, Rafael Benítez, who is hoping to force through the sale of Xabi Alonso to Juventus before the European Championship commences this weekend, has been encouraged by Barry's public admission that he wishes to play in the Champions League and has instructed a second bid for the 27-year-old.

Liverpool had a complex offer of cash plus, in the words of Martin O'Neill, "a mishmash of nameless players in exchange", rejected out of hand by the Villa manager two days before the final game of the Premier League season. The timing of that offer, and particularly

Liverpool's willingness to make their approach public, infuriated O'Neill, who still hopes to commit his captain to a new long-term contract at Villa Park.

Speaking after England's friendly win against Trinidad & Tobago, Barry revealed he hoped to clarify his future with O'Neill this week. Even if Barry rejects an increase on his existing £47,000-a-week wage at Villa and an extension to a contract that has two years remaining, however, Benítez's hopes of a swift resolution to an acrimonious transfer appear optimistic.

Liverpool's initial £10m-rated bid fell short of O'Neill's valuation and while their second offer is expected to be worth in the region of £14m, again with players such as Scott Carson and John Arne Riise offered in exchange, Villa want closer to £18m.

Benítez is confident of swelling his transfer budget by holding out for £16m for Alonso, although that rests on the Spain international's desire to call time on his four-year Anfield career in favour of a move to Italy. Alonso has a five-year contract offer on the table from the Italian club, who had an initial bid for the midfielder rejected by Liverpool a fortnight ago. The 26-year-old would prefer a return to Spain but, in the absence of serious interest from his homeland, will have little option but to accept Juventus' offer.

One deal with fewer complications is Liverpool's pursuit of the Udinese left-back Andrea Dossena. Though the Italians want £8m for the 26-year-old and Liverpool initially offered £6m, the defender is close to completing his move to Anfield.

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