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[Arvin]

I don't want to go off-topic here, but just felt like saying that the war on Iraq isn't really about the Oil.

George Wright isn't spot on on that.

so what is about, iraq never made any "official" thread to usa and they never was. i read some couple months ago that saddam assitant or i cant remmember what he was and who he was but he worked with saddam told to media that saddam thaught that usa will never stay so long, acctually in clinton time usa did attack iraq only for two or three days and thy stoped.

the real question here is why the hell usa protects the oil pipes?


EDIT: it was an FBI Agent, George Piro who told that saddam tricked bush and said that he has a nuclear weapon to avoid iranian ....


http://edition.cnn.com/2008/US/01/27/saddam.cbs/index.html

and the video on 60 minutes
http://search.cbsnews.com/?source=cbs&q=George+Piro&x=16&y=12

 

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[Osman]

As the one of the prime orchestrators of the frigging Iraq war, Mr wolfish hawk said (read: wolfowitz which in Andy's article), the only threat Iraq had to the US is threat to their financial interest.

Meaning that its one of the few big oil reserves they didnt controll and were in the hands of a country they didnt controll (its why they tried a coup on Venezuela, their puppet president went away, and the nut Chavez had the nerve to want to sell the country's oil instead of give it to them).

 

[Bjerknes]

I don't want to go off-topic here, but just felt like saying that the war on Iraq isn't really about the Oil.

George Wright isn't spot on on that.

So what is the Iraq war about then, Rab? It's obvious that the Bush Administration was lying when they said Iraq had WMD's, the UN stated that Saddam didn't have any such weapons since 1993, and figureheads such as Wolfowitz and Greenspan admitted the war was about oil. I think it's pretty obvious even years ago that this war was all about oil.

Man I should have seen Andy posted those very telling articles before I ranted on without reading the last several pages.

As the one of the prime orchestrators of the frigging Iraq war, Mr wolfish hawk said (read: wolfowitz which in Andy's article), the only threat Iraq had to the US is threat to their financial interest.

Meaning that its one of the few big oil reserves they didnt controll and were in the hands of a country they didnt controll (its why they tried a coup on Venezuela, their puppet president went away, and the nut Chavez had the nerve to want to sell the country's oil instead of give it to them).

Indeed, and one of the "great hopes" for the region of the Bush administration is probably a free Kurdistan. Afterall, it's rich in oil and will allow our companies for easy access to those fields and the pipelines in the area. An oil Mecca.

If you look back about 10 pages or so, that's where the whole Middle East oil discussion started.

 

[Azzurri7]

So what is the Iraq war about then, Rab? It's obvious that the Bush Administration was lying when they said Iraq had WMD's, the UN stated that Saddam didn't have any such weapons since 1993, and figureheads such as Wolfowitz and Greenspan admitted the war was about oil. I think it's pretty obvious even years ago that this war was all about oil.

Of course Bush Administration were lying when they came up with the report saying Iraq had WMD's. As it was pretty obvious for everyone around the world that this is a big lie. But was a reason for them to enter Iraq.


United States is in Iraq for more than Oil, Oil was never their goal, it's very laughable to really think that States are there for the sake of Oil when they're throwing thousands of their soldiers down there.

Condaliza Rice and Bush's Administration have been always hinting that they're looking forward to change the political way in the middle east and the zone from the dictatorships such as Saddam, Gaddafi, Assad, Najad etc.

Iraq was their first stop knowing that they got everything there, from oil to the best geographically position, sorrounded by Syria and Iran to etc etc.

Reasons:

Reasons are simple If you look at United States policy[history] in the past.... Not to mention that they're world's strongest country, so it's pretty predictable, and any other country in the US place would be doing the same, meaning any country leading the world.

anyway back to my reasons, here they're IMO

-Any country not going in the same road with the United States is always their target. Afghanistan vs Russia is an example. They can be with you anyday anytime, once they smell that you're looking for a change they eat you before you prepare your fork and knife.

-Controlling middle-east will advance them like no other.

-Dictatorships time is getting over, but slowly slowly they're putting them down... first one was Saddam, the next....Assad or Najjad? we'll see.

and so on... I could go on alot, but I promised myself not to really go off-topic.


I apologize anyway..... maybe anytime soon we'll have a thread concerning this topic.

 

[Snoop]

Is this the Kosova thread?

 

[Osman]

Of course Bush Administration were lying when they came up with the report saying Iraq had WMD's. As it was pretty obvious for everyone around the world that this is a big lie. But was a reason for them to enter Iraq.


United States is in Iraq for more than Oil, Oil was never their goal, it's very laughable to really think that States are there for the sake of Oil when they're throwing thousands of their soldiers down there.

Condaliza Rice and Bush's Administration have been always hinting that they're looking forward to change the political way in the middle east and the zone from the dictatorships such as Saddam, Gaddafi, Assad, Najad etc.

Iraq was their first stop knowing that they got everything there, from oil to the best geographically position, sorrounded by Syria and Iran to etc etc.


Any country not going in the same road with the United States is always their target. Afghanistan vs Russia is an example. They can be with you anyday anytime, once they smell that you're looking for a change they eat you before you prepare your fork and knife.


Dictatorships time is getting over, but slowly slowly they're putting them down... first one was Saddam, the next....Assad or Najjad? we'll see.

Might possible be the most naive and gullible thing I have ever ever ever read.

 

[Enron]

Is this the Kosova thread?

Used to be. Until the US took it over. :drill:

 

[swag]

Used to be. Until the US took it over. :drill:

Have you been to the Kosova Mall? Such deals. They even have an H&M.

 

[Enron]

Have you been to the Kosova Mall? Such deals. They even have an H&M.

Tell me about it.

 

[Bjerknes]

United States is in Iraq for more than Oil, Oil was never their goal, it's very laughable to really think that States are there for the sake of Oil when they're throwing thousands of their soldiers down there.

Well, why would people within the exodus of Bush personnel come out and say the war was for oil when the Bush administration doesn't even admit that? It just doesn't make any sense.

Condaliza Rice and Bush's Administration have been always hinting that they're looking forward to change the political way in the middle east and the zone from the dictatorships such as Saddam, Gaddafi, Assad, Najad etc.

If that was truly the case, why haven't we done anything about Assad then?

And Ghaddafi is, strangely enough, apparently on our side now.

-Controlling middle-east will advance them like no other.

Well that is certainly true, but it also goes hand in hand with the oil argument because it's so crucial to our economy.

-Dictatorships time is getting over, but slowly slowly they're putting them down... first one was Saddam, the next....Assad or Najjad? we'll see.

But we don't have a problem with installing or aiding dictatorships as long as they help us. That's for sure.

 

[Zé Tahir]

Is this the Kosova thread?

Kosova's independence lasted for a couple of days, it's been invaded by the US

 

[Bjerknes]

Kosova's independence lasted for a couple of days, it's been invaded by the US

We come through like a :andy:

 

[swag]

We come through like a :andy:

...and then sell you the $25 commemorative T-shirt made by Haitians.

 

[Bjerknes]

...and then sell you the $25 commemorative T-shirt made by Haitians.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Gregger invaded my brain.

 

[Arvin]

Of course Bush Administration were lying when they came up with the report saying Iraq had WMD's. As it was pretty obvious for everyone around the world that this is a big lie. But was a reason for them to enter Iraq.


United States is in Iraq for more than Oil, Oil was never their goal, it's very laughable to really think that States are there for the sake of Oil when they're throwing thousands of their soldiers down there.

Condaliza Rice and Bush's Administration have been always hinting that they're looking forward to change the political way in the middle east and the zone from the dictatorships such as Saddam, Gaddafi, Assad, Najad etc.

Iraq was their first stop knowing that they got everything there, from oil to the best geographically position, sorrounded by Syria and Iran to etc etc.

Reasons:

Reasons are simple If you look at United States policy[history] in the past.... Not to mention that they're world's strongest country, so it's pretty predictable, and any other country in the US place would be doing the same, meaning any country leading the world.

anyway back to my reasons, here they're IMO

-Any country not going in the same road with the United States is always their target. Afghanistan vs Russia is an example. They can be with you anyday anytime, once they smell that you're looking for a change they eat you before you prepare your fork and knife.

-Controlling middle-east will advance them like no other.

-Dictatorships time is getting over, but slowly slowly they're putting them down... first one was Saddam, the next....Assad or Najjad? we'll see.

and so on... I could go on alot, but I promised myself not to really go off-topic.


I apologize anyway..... maybe anytime soon we'll have a thread concerning this topic.

Afghanistan wanted a new change. even in Clinton time USA attacked Afghanistan for a couple of days, but they missed the target, he distroyed that camp that Osama was coming to and than dont know how Osama changed is plan and moved to someother place......it is the fact.

and still people thinks that Osama is Afghan....

 

[Azzurri7]

If that was truly the case, why haven't we done anything about Assad then?

And Ghaddafi is, strangely enough, apparently on our side now.

You can't really win making war on couple of countries at the same-time.

Thats how Hitler lost, with all his power he thought he can handle opening a new conflict with countries every single day.

United States can't just put Assad down in a day. His time will come once they're done in Iraq. Or at least once they're in control of everything there.

 

[Azzurri7]

Might possible be the most naive and gullible thing I have ever ever ever read.

Thats very good post. You convinced me.

 

[Azzurri7]

Anyway back to the topic or else I'll be warning myself and might just pull a Fliakis out of this.

 

[Osman]

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