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Fred

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ßöмßäяðîëя;2793494 said:
No, I'm being a realist. If it was better to live in that area of the world, more people would do it. More ex-pats would be seen in Arab countries, but correct me if I'm wrong, but more Arabs move to WESTERN countries....

...because they are better.
In general more Westerners come to the gulf than gulf nationals go to the West, the latter only happens for education reasons. There is very little reason for a Saudi or an Emarati or Qatari to move to the West, there are lots of reasons why Americans, British and Australians come to the gulf. So actually your post above only applies to Arabs from the Levant, Egypt and the Maghreb.
 
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    In general more Westerners come to the gulf than gulf nationals go to the West, the latter only happens for education reasons. There is very little reason for a Saudi or an Emarati or Qatari to move to the West, there are lots of reasons why Americans, British and Australians come to the gulf. So actually your post above only applies to Arabs from the Levant, Egypt and the Maghreb.
    You are the one that said "Arab country," not me.
     

    Fred

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    ßöмßäяðîëя;2793952 said:
    You are the one that said "Arab country," not me.
    Ok i change it to gulf country then :D


    My point is, if your going to apply that logic, then why don't you ask yourself why people come from the US to the gulf, but not from the gulf to the US. It shows you how flawed your logic is, unless your willing to admit that the gulf is a better place to live.
     
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    Ok i change it to gulf country then :D


    My point is, if your going to apply that logic, then why don't you ask yourself why people come from the US to the gulf, but not from the gulf to the US. It shows you how flawed your logic is, unless your willing to admit that the gulf is a better place to live.
    They go there because the think it's a great place to play golf.
    Not very good at r.e.a.d.i.n.g.
     

    GordoDeCentral

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    Ok i change it to gulf country then :D


    My point is, if your going to apply that logic, then why don't you ask yourself why people come from the US to the gulf, but not from the gulf to the US. It shows you how flawed your logic is, unless your willing to admit that the gulf is a better place to live.
    then you need to compare apples to apples, why would a rich affluent american move to the gulf? and theres plenty of cases of the opposite just go to boston
     

    Fred

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    then you need to compare apples to apples, why would a rich affluent american move to the gulf? and theres plenty of cases of the opposite just go to boston

    I don't need to compare anything, i think its a flawed logic. There are most probably more Americans in the gulf than vice versa, but does that mean anything? Probably not, it probably only means that gulf countries are wealthy countries who have a relatively low number of citizens.
     

    GordoDeCentral

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    I don't need to compare anything, i think its a flawed logic. There are most probably more Americans in the gulf than vice versa, but does that mean anything? Probably not, it probably only means that gulf countries are wealthy countries who have a relatively low number of citizens.
    the comparing you were already doing, what you need is to do it properly. And despite the "wealth" the gulf countries are third world countries for a reason.
     
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    Ok i change it to gulf country then :D


    My point is, if your going to apply that logic, then why don't you ask yourself why people come from the US to the gulf, but not from the gulf to the US. It shows you how flawed your logic is, unless your willing to admit that the gulf is a better place to live.
    I don't need to compare anything, i think its a flawed logic. There are most probably more Americans in the gulf than vice versa, but does that mean anything? Probably not, it probably only means that gulf countries are wealthy countries who have a relatively low number of citizens.
    I've met quite a few Iraqis and Saudis in the area.
     

    Enron

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    I don't need to compare anything, i think its a flawed logic. There are most probably more Americans in the gulf than vice versa, but does that mean anything? Probably not, it probably only means that gulf countries are wealthy countries who have a relatively low number of citizens.
    You're claiming flawed logic in one sentence and saying "most probably" in the next. Just thought I'd point that out.
     

    Fred

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    Ya, i mean i'm pretty sure there are more Americans in the gulf than there are Emarati's or Qatari's in America. I said "most probably" because i have no actual empirical evidence that supports my claim, but i think its very fair to assume its true. The whole logic is flawed though, because even if my original claim was true, it probably doesn't mean that the gulf is a better place to live in than America. The whole reason the argument started was because Burke said that the US was a better place to live in than the gulf, he supported his claim by pointing out that more Arabs move to America than Americans move to the Arab world, which is true when you factor in the whole Arab world, my point is, that isn't a valid measure for which country is a better place to live in.
     
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