World Cup controversy thread,Sepp seen leaving hotel with giant SWAG bags (98 Viewers)
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I don't expect you to understand, but even if zero Americans knew anything about the game, they still attended and became fans of it. The event was essentially the launch of soccer becoming a very mainstream sport in the US, and now the majority of kids here play it. World Cup 94 brought out what is good about our supposed melting pot of different cultures.
mistreatment of slaves?
You're using big words. You know that the term "slave" isn't meant literally here right?
Weren't there a fair few games with low attendances? Then there were the stories that local people couldn't afford going to the games due to the high ticket prices, except of course those games where they were let in for free (to at least get some people in the stands 
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I also read something about the bad treatment of the locals (both by Fifa & government), but I'm obviously not sure how true this is, since these kinds of stories always seem to pop up.
).I also read something about the bad treatment of the locals (both by Fifa & government), but I'm obviously not sure how true this is, since these kinds of stories always seem to pop up.
The only true things from that post were
1) The Qatari league has very low attendance rates.
2) Many games are free to boost attendance rates. In fact they sometimes bring in Indian and Pakistani laborers(Those nationalities look like Qatari's), and pay them to wear the teams kits and support
Obviously, high ticket prices were never an issue in Qatar, that is completely false, and what is even more laughable is, the locals not being able to afford match tickets
Qatari locals are very rich people mind you, Qatar has one of the highest individual income levels in the world. the bad treatment of the locals?
what exactly do you mean by that?Like the illegal immigrants in America and most of Europe?
Like the laborers of sweat shops in Asia, sweat shops that are used to supply Western corporations ala Nike?
Lets not get on our moral high horses so fast here, its easy to make it a "civilized west vs a barbaric east". The logic of "as long as its not in my backyard then its all good" doesn't fly if we were to be fair.
Like the laborers of sweat shops in Asia, sweat shops that are used to supply Western corporations ala Nike?
Lets not get on our moral high horses so fast here, its easy to make it a "civilized west vs a barbaric east". The logic of "as long as its not in my backyard then its all good" doesn't fly if we were to be fair.
Oh dear, this is taking a turn for the worse. I suppose you will be telling me hispanics in America are treated like slaves? The US and Europe really is a world away in terms of working and human rights, but that's going to a different issue.
You're talking about conglomerate workers being treated like 'slaves' - which is what all workers are treated like in many Asian companies, that is down to the country they live in and their direct supervisors and governers in those countries and not down to deliberate slave treatment by their western company owners. When you have a company in the US there are certain working conditions. When you have a company in Romania there are certain working conditions. When that company branches out to China or Thailand there are again different conditions. So for that reason look at how workers are treated in China or Thailand, or indeed, Qatar.
I'm talking about direct forms of slavery of immigrant workers on Qatari soil by individuals and companies. You will find nothing of the sort in the US on any kind of scale, to suggest so is preposterous.
Your last point is not my intention at all, I put a valid point across that I could cite many examples from internet sources and I'm sure you could magnify that by a thousand for the silent sufferers, and the best that pro-Qatar supporters can put forward is Nike has sweatshops in Cambodia, without addressing the point. I don't really care what goes on in these countries everyday, whether that is their culture or right or wrong, but when you send a World Cup there then the spotlight is on you and questions and issues need to be asked and addressed.
You're talking about conglomerate workers being treated like 'slaves' - which is what all workers are treated like in many Asian companies, that is down to the country they live in and their direct supervisors and governers in those countries and not down to deliberate slave treatment by their western company owners. When you have a company in the US there are certain working conditions. When you have a company in Romania there are certain working conditions. When that company branches out to China or Thailand there are again different conditions. So for that reason look at how workers are treated in China or Thailand, or indeed, Qatar.
I'm talking about direct forms of slavery of immigrant workers on Qatari soil by individuals and companies. You will find nothing of the sort in the US on any kind of scale, to suggest so is preposterous.
Your last point is not my intention at all, I put a valid point across that I could cite many examples from internet sources and I'm sure you could magnify that by a thousand for the silent sufferers, and the best that pro-Qatar supporters can put forward is Nike has sweatshops in Cambodia, without addressing the point. I don't really care what goes on in these countries everyday, whether that is their culture or right or wrong, but when you send a World Cup there then the spotlight is on you and questions and issues need to be asked and addressed.
I don't think it needs to be in the same country two tournaments running, there are several countries that could host a World Cup next week in terms of stadia and infrastructure for example.
I guess for FIFA now they want to risk a few things. If what Byrone says is true then they will be looking to make some serious money in Russia and Qatar, more high risk high reward moves, one can only imagine the numbers being floated around.
I guess for FIFA now they want to risk a few things. If what Byrone says is true then they will be looking to make some serious money in Russia and Qatar, more high risk high reward moves, one can only imagine the numbers being floated around.
What people don't know about the Qatari World Cup is that it is all a hoax.
What people don't know about the Qatari World Cup is that Muslims are just better people.
What people don't know about the Qatari World Cup is it's great to have all of Europe in a VW Lupo.
What people don't know about the Qatari World Cup is all women will have to walk beside their men in handcuffs.
What people don't know about the Qatari World Cup is that in Qatari, as in all Mid East cultures, football games will be put on hold for a mid day prayer, and if you don't pray (looking at you, LAMPARD) there will be Fatwas out the ass.
What people don't know about the Qatari World Cup is that Muslims are just better people.
What people don't know about the Qatari World Cup is it's great to have all of Europe in a VW Lupo.
What people don't know about the Qatari World Cup is all women will have to walk beside their men in handcuffs.
What people don't know about the Qatari World Cup is that in Qatari, as in all Mid East cultures, football games will be put on hold for a mid day prayer, and if you don't pray (looking at you, LAMPARD) there will be Fatwas out the ass.
thats not true, at least for me. wc 94 is easily my favourite to date. i enjoyed it the most!! in second place is a tie between wc 2006 and wc 98. i dont remember wc 90 very well i remember egypts games and teh final as i was 6 so no andrew the 94 is not the worst its the best i've seen to this day.
the wc 2010 was a great world cup, i did'nt enjoy the group stages for sure but thats not south africa's problem at all. i think the mean reason wc 2010 did'nt grow up on me as i expected had a lot to do with the ball and the vuvu but the stadiums where top notch and u have to give it to south africa for pulling a great job with the organization specially when u consider the amount of bs that was thrown at them even before they started working on the final touches of organizing it.
so no andrew the 94 is not the worst its the best i've seen to this day. the wc 2010 was a great world cup, i did'nt enjoy the group stages for sure but thats not south africa's problem at all. i think the mean reason wc 2010 did'nt grow up on me as i expected had a lot to do with the ball and the vuvu
but the stadiums where top notch and u have to give it to south africa for pulling a great job with the organization specially when u consider the amount of bs that was thrown at them even before they started working on the final touches of organizing it.
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