World Cup 2022 LIVE thread (8 Viewers)
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Gaymar #24 will be pegged by his sister with the World Cup trophy and Messi will be on the internet making infographics about how many goals he scored against Osasuna
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Are you a fan of good play football or just close games? No one likes it when the outcome is obvious so quick. But the performance itself still matters alot, not just the type of game it is.
Because Brasil walked over South Korea but almost every attack was with break taking skill and creativity.
Japan and Croatia was close game that SHOULD been exciting but it was anything but. The football on display was god awful for 120 minutes (Croatian coach turned into Sam Allardyce). And the pks that was supposed been the exiting part of the game was just awful amateurish stuff.
So the 30 mins of joga bonito defenitely salvaged the evening, the eye sore we saw for 120 minutes before.
Because Brasil walked over South Korea but almost every attack was with break taking skill and creativity.
Japan and Croatia was close game that SHOULD been exciting but it was anything but. The football on display was god awful for 120 minutes (Croatian coach turned into Sam Allardyce). And the pks that was supposed been the exiting part of the game was just awful amateurish stuff.
So the 30 mins of joga bonito defenitely salvaged the evening, the eye sore we saw for 120 minutes before.
The individual quality of non-European and SA players has definitely improved. I don’t recall so many top drawer non-European and South American players in the game 30 odd years ago.
As teams, they haven’t had anything to write home about but i do think there is an improvement in quality.
South Korea are a better team than their mauling today shows. Japan dragged Croatia until the very end. Senegal would have been more potent had Mane been playing.
I fully expect the next non-European or SA world champion to come from Africa though. But it likely will take time.
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As teams, they haven’t had anything to write home about but i do think there is an improvement in quality.
South Korea are a better team than their mauling today shows. Japan dragged Croatia until the very end. Senegal would have been more potent had Mane been playing.
I fully expect the next non-European or SA world champion to come from Africa though. But it likely will take time.
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I think he's put up some of the greatest numbers of all time. But I do question how well he'd play in different leagues. He CLEARLY was getting very favorable foul calls for probably 6-8 years in Lol Liga. Never mind having literally the GREATEST middle of all time probably behind him and then other years with probably the GREATEST attacking trio of all-time playing on the line with him in Neymar Suarez.
To act like these don't make it harder to guard Messi or easier to provide him with opportunities to score that he wouldn't have playing for even the best of the best in other leagues is a bit short sighted.
Sure, if you transport Messi, Iniesta, Xavi all to Bayern at the same time he probably still destroys in Bayern. But I don't think 2010 Messi scores 2010 Messi's goals in 2010 Bayern's roster. He scores a lot. He's still probably one of the best in the world. But he's not some Titan. 2015 Messi doesn't score 2015 Messi numbers in 2015 Juventus or 2015 Manchester City. The leagues are so different. And CL has proven that the Lol Liga form of reffing is the norm for continental tournaments but in a foreign league like say the EPL Messi's not getting treated with kid gloves.
I don't see how there's any way an argument can be made that Messi isn't massively the product of AMAZING talent combined with AMAZING supporting cast. Probably the best supporting cast for an attacker for damn-near a decade. That's never talked about.
To act like these don't make it harder to guard Messi or easier to provide him with opportunities to score that he wouldn't have playing for even the best of the best in other leagues is a bit short sighted.
Sure, if you transport Messi, Iniesta, Xavi all to Bayern at the same time he probably still destroys in Bayern. But I don't think 2010 Messi scores 2010 Messi's goals in 2010 Bayern's roster. He scores a lot. He's still probably one of the best in the world. But he's not some Titan. 2015 Messi doesn't score 2015 Messi numbers in 2015 Juventus or 2015 Manchester City. The leagues are so different. And CL has proven that the Lol Liga form of reffing is the norm for continental tournaments but in a foreign league like say the EPL Messi's not getting treated with kid gloves.
I don't see how there's any way an argument can be made that Messi isn't massively the product of AMAZING talent combined with AMAZING supporting cast. Probably the best supporting cast for an attacker for damn-near a decade. That's never talked about.
As long as Africans keep making Western European national teams faster and better, being offered much better conditions there than in Africa, I can't see an African team winning it. They "won" it and will keep winning it through France, Germany, England, maybe Belgium, and eventually even Spain or Italy.
And to provide the Ronaldo counter to that, I always have thought Ronaldo had a better game that translated better to other leagues. He's taller, is an air threat, he was faster though not as quick footed, and he takes care of himself. He's aged far more gracefully than Messi even with his rumored going to Saudi league.
Also, as arrogant and all the shit that Ronaldo gets, Messi throwing a tantrum and controlling the Argentina national team squad and tactics never gets talked about. Messi forcing an alpha like Zlatan out of Barca due to being threatened by him never gets talked about.
Also, as arrogant and all the shit that Ronaldo gets, Messi throwing a tantrum and controlling the Argentina national team squad and tactics never gets talked about. Messi forcing an alpha like Zlatan out of Barca due to being threatened by him never gets talked about.
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