World Cup 2022 LIVE thread (36 Viewers)

[Lapa]

Analdo is shite.

 

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[Lapa]

When will Italy play?

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Dani Alves lol... Brazil be like "come on SKorea, here's a handicap. Show us what you can do"

 

[Seven]

I think he's put up some of the greatest numbers of all time. But I do question how well he'd play in different leagues. He CLEARLY was getting very favorable foul calls for probably 6-8 years in Lol Liga. Never mind having literally the GREATEST middle of all time probably behind him and then other years with probably the GREATEST attacking trio of all-time playing on the line with him in Neymar Suarez.

To act like these don't make it harder to guard Messi or easier to provide him with opportunities to score that he wouldn't have playing for even the best of the best in other leagues is a bit short sighted.

Sure, if you transport Messi, Iniesta, Xavi all to Bayern at the same time he probably still destroys in Bayern. But I don't think 2010 Messi scores 2010 Messi's goals in 2010 Bayern's roster. He scores a lot. He's still probably one of the best in the world. But he's not some Titan. 2015 Messi doesn't score 2015 Messi numbers in 2015 Juventus or 2015 Manchester City. The leagues are so different. And CL has proven that the Lol Liga form of reffing is the norm for continental tournaments but in a foreign league like say the EPL Messi's not getting treated with kid gloves.

I don't see how there's any way an argument can be made that Messi isn't massively the product of AMAZING talent combined with AMAZING supporting cast. Probably the best supporting cast for an attacker for damn-near a decade. That's never talked about.

I think he'd still have put up crazy numbers. Maybe not 50 league goals, but he'd consistently hit 30.

We think of Ligue 1 as very tight defensively for example, but a 20 year old Hazard scored 20 league goals in 2011-12 and Messi is much more of a goalscorer.

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[Sheik Yerbouti]

When will Italy play?

Nice trick question. They'll cheat and dive in 2026.

 

[Seven]

And to provide the Ronaldo counter to that, I always have thought Ronaldo had a better game that translated better to other leagues. He's taller, is an air threat, he was faster though not as quick footed, and he takes care of himself. He's aged far more gracefully than Messi even with his rumored going to Saudi league.

Also, as arrogant and all the shit that Ronaldo gets, Messi throwing a tantrum and controlling the Argentina national team squad and tactics never gets talked about. Messi forcing an alpha like Zlatan out of Barca due to being threatened by him never gets talked about.

If you push out alphas, you are the alpha.

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[Knowah]

If you push out alphas, you are the alpha.

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He didn't push out Zlatan, he went to management and told them to get rid of Zlatan. Zlatan has talked about Messi being scared to talk to him. Zlatan puts his own spin on everything but it wouldn't be out the question. Messi already comes off as quiet and reserved and others have said the same about him. Wasn't it Xavi who said Messi wouldn't talk a lot in the locker room but would go to management with his feelings? Xavi said it like it was a good thing but to me it sounds like an insecure bitch.

And going from being a 50 goals a season guy to 30 goals is a massive drop... That's a lot lmao... You said it like he'd still be looked at the same lol

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

Messi would've had no problem dribbling through Cesena for a hat trick, I don't think there would be much of a difference. Even if so, he probably would've adjusted quickly.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Xavi said it like it was a good thing but to me it sounds like an insecure bitch.

Or just someone who knows direct confrontation is not his strengths, so used his leverage with the mgmt to get things his way. I'm sure there's something about playing to your strengths in 'The Art of War'.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

Those paid Korean models in the crowd don't even look like they know what's happening

 

[DAiDEViL]

Damn. Nice goal

 

[Knowah]

Or just someone who knows direct confrontation is not his strengths, so used his leverage with the mgmt to get things his way. I'm sure there's something about playing to your strengths in 'The Art of War'.

So not an alpha.

 

[Clamarc]

Dani Alves is still playing for NT
Isnt he like 40 lol

 

[DAiDEViL]

Inb4 VAR offside.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

Nice hit. Was that deflected at all? I can't tell.

 

[swag]

Don’t call it a comeback

 

[Knowah]

Messi would've had no problem dribbling through Cesena for a hat trick, I don't think there would be much of a difference. Even if so, he probably would've adjusted quickly.

But can he do it on a sunny afternoon at Sassuolo? (without Xavi, Iniesta, Suarez, Neymar)

 

[.zero]

Come back szn

 

[Seven]

He didn't push out Zlatan, he went to management and told them to get rid of Zlatan. Zlatan has talked about Messi being scared to talk to him. Zlatan puts his own spin on everything but it wouldn't be out the question. Messi already comes off as quiet and reserved and others have said the same about him. Wasn't it Xavi who said Messi wouldn't talk a lot in the locker room but would go to management with his feelings? Xavi said it like it was a good thing but to me it sounds like an insecure bitch.

And going from being a 50 goals a season guy to 30 goals is a massive drop... That's a lot lmao... You said it like he'd still be looked at the same lol

I don't care who said what.

Messi wanted the dude gone and the dude was gone. That tells you everything you need to know.

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