World Cup 2022 LIVE thread (53 Viewers)

[IliveForJuve]

Dumfries is my hero now

Fuck the US

 

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[Bjerknes]

Oh well, fun while it lasted. Get rid of Greg and bring in someone who can take us to the next level tactically and can figure out a way to field our best players in the same 11.

 

[Wings]

Well, that ends that. Forza Japan now.

Hopefully this prepares you guys for the next world cup.

 

[swag]

Thought they looked pretty bad in all games so far tbh. They did sit back, but still looked shaky in the games prior to this one.

Basically this. They’re coming out of the desert of recent years. But they have shaky legs without outstanding game-changers of past squads. They seem on the way up, but given where they came from I do not see them making it into the quarters.

 

[Vlad]

I'm not saying you're wrong, but sitting back and inviting pressure when you have a shaky defense can very easily be suicide as well.

Work on your defense then. Its easier to counter attacking talent if you can set up defensive block instead of going all out and then getting slaughtered. Not everyone can play like France, Brazil or Spain.

 

[Post Ironic]

I'm not saying you're wrong, but sitting back and inviting pressure when you have a shaky defense can very easily be suicide as well.

But a big part of the reason the defense looks shaky is because there is no defensive organization. There has to be a better balance. Both teams constantly get caught up the field en masse and are ridiculously vulnerable to counters because of it.

it doesn’t have to be one or the other. Some balance is needed.

 

[s4tch]

Why are they questionable? Defensively and tactically they look very good.

solid defensive organization indeed, but their attack has been terrible so far, they don't create anything.

to their credit they play prime jihadball, it's been effective so far and that's what matters at the end of the day

 

[MrMonkey]

If you look at just the stats for the match wouldn't think score wasn't what it was or who won.. Match conclusion for me was once again a Euro team smarter than the US.

 

[Vlad]

But a big part of the reason the defense looks shaky is because there is no defensive organization. There has to be a better balance. Both teams constantly get caught up the field en masse and are ridiculously vulnerable to counters because of it.

it doesn’t have to be one or the other. Some balance is needed.

For some of them being good in defense is frowned upon. A lot of teams can pull it off and can cause upset. The other way around you wont see as frequently, going out there to play the game. Its just silly and looks amateurish.

 

[Bjerknes]

Why would we want to sit back and play Jihadi ball when many of our players are good at pressing and attacking? That’s not playing to your strengths.

We shouldn’t be going all out attack or defense, we left too many gaps out there today. But taking this team forward to sit back all match is just dumb.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

Work on your defense then. Its easier to counter attacking talent if you can set up defensive block instead of going all out and then getting slaughtered. Not everyone can play like France, Brazil or Spain.

But a big part of the reason the defense looks shaky is because there is no defensive organization. There has to be a better balance. Both teams constantly get caught up the field en masse and are ridiculously vulnerable to counters because of it.

it doesn’t have to be one or the other. Some balance is needed.

Oh I'm speaking of the concept in general, but yes you're correct. Again not saying you're wrong, but we have seen it backfire before even here at Juve for example.

 

[Wings]

But a big part of the reason the defense looks shaky is because there is no defensive organization. There has to be a better balance. Both teams constantly get caught up the field en masse and are ridiculously vulnerable to counters because of it.

it doesn’t have to be one or the other. Some balance is needed.

I think this is where teams from North America are right now. It's a long process. With the world cup coming to you guys it's time to work on the weaknesses.

 

[Vlad]

If you look at just the stats for the match wouldn't think score wasn't what it was or who won.. Match conclusion for me was once again a Euro team smarter than the US.

There was never any doubt Euro teams are better and chances are 5-6 will be in QFs, but it is naivety some of the teams could work on.

 

[Post Ironic]

Why would we want to sit back and play Jihadi ball when many of our players are good at pressing and attacking? That’s not playing to your strengths.

We shouldn’t be going all out attack or defense, we left too many gaps out there today. But taking this team forward to sit back all match is just dumb.

Ya know, there’s something between Jihadi ball and guns blazing ball… and both our sides hopefully realize that now.

 

[Vlad]

Why would we want to sit back and play Jihadi ball when many of our players are good at pressing and attacking? That’s not playing to your strengths.

We shouldn’t be going all out attack or defense, we left too many gaps out there today. But taking this team forward to sit back all match is just dumb.

Thats why you will always get knocked out in the early rounds. You dont have enough quality to match better Euro teams.

 

[Bjerknes]

Oh I'm speaking of the concept in general, but yes you're correct. Again not saying you're wrong, but we have seen it backfire before even here at Juve for example.

I want the ball as far away from Ream and Zimms as possible. They don’t give me confidence at all. Ream is done, not sure about the latter though.

Really hoping Richards can improve and there is some more talent coming through.

 

[Enron]

I don’t want to say that teams let both our sides control the pace and tempo of our matches and let us have majority of possession. I think it was probably a combination of our athleticism and tactics along with euro sides being content to sit back a bit and counter if we were going to expose our back lines like that. But there really has to be a better balance going forward for both teams. It’s really naive to only have that guns blazing tactic against superior sides.

there are times in every match where you need to be able to absorb pressure and maintain focus. Even in concacaf these are areas where we struggle which is why qualifying is often such a roller coaster

 

[Bjerknes]

Thats why you will always get knocked out in the early rounds. You dont have enough quality to match better Euro teams.

Of course we don’t, but we don’t have the quality at the back to try to defend for 90 minutes either.

It’s also silly to sit back an entire match when you have someone like Adams there who thrives pressing and winning the ball back in the middle. He didn’t have a good match today, but we literally waste his talents as well making him be a stopper on top of box.

 

[Vlad]

Oh I'm speaking of the concept in general, but yes you're correct. Again not saying you're wrong, but we have seen it backfire before even here at Juve for example.

Im not advocating bunker approach, you need extraordinary defensive organization to pull it off. But surely being more smart about the space you leave behind, sitting back on occasion and using counters, would benefit you when facing teams with abundance of attacking talent, that would undoubtedly underestimate you as well and leave the space behind. Trying to go toe to toe against Euro sides will not work.

 

[.zero]

Time to support my socceroos