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Lion

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is lion from japan?
how did u know know this lmao u been here 7 years

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VAR was always just delusion that you could create absolute truth by using microsecond time slices and 38 camera angles.

Football is for people by people. Get outta here with your technology god worship crap.
VAR has done more good than bad. no denying this
 

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Vlad

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May 23, 2011
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Just make the lines from the fucking feet man

If somebody is a toe over, no complaints. You need a hard line somewhere.

But you're telling me we need to be disallowing goals based on where people's shoulders are? You're taking goals away from the game for no reason at that point and ruining the flow.
Draw the line at feet, no complaints there.
 

Vlad

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May 23, 2011
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Id assume NT earned more so its fair that male players get compensated adequately. This equality bs for the sake of it is annoying. If female sports isnt attracting as many lucrative sponsorship deals, females will get paid less. Thats fair.
 

swag

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This, especially when a lot of what it was meant to solve is subjective shit any way. The issue is it causes more anger now because there is no excuse.
Like Brexit, VAR was falsely sold as something that would solve all controversy and allow the sport to enter the promised land. It was a complete lie.

Nah, Var stays in. People can complain as much as they want but getting screwed over by an offside goal or ref not spotting when the ball crosses the goal line is far more infuriating. Belgium would be fully right to complain if the penalty stood today, no matter how tight call was. The rules are atm like this. Modify offside rules a bit instead. Technology is the way to go. Application needs to be quicker and more transparent though.
Ah, the complaining is part of the sport. What made Maradona's Hand of God so glorious is exactly that. People want to neuter the sport of the human passion, the human debate, the human fallibility, and the human eye physically at the pitch.

Even with VAR we still have the groaning and complaining about human judgement. The difference is now we stop play, we celebrate goals at the wrong times ... or we don't even if we should be, etc. It's turned football into coitus interruptus.

That's because what we all just really want, apparently, is for the sport to become about calculated video game robots playing for pixel-perfect cameras watched by fatasses sitting at home on their couches in front of their TVs. Nobody even needs to be in the stadiums and see actual moving human flesh anymore.
 

Rockets

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One reason African, Asian and north american teams are making progress is that Europe leagues welcome players from these continents and they make huge improvements by participating in top quality competitions on a consistent basis.

But in terms of result Europe NT are not regressing at all, and NT from other continents haven't made it further yet.

No doubt Europe is the hub of football and it still will be.
 

icemaη

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Like Brexit, VAR was falsely sold as something that would solve all controversy and allow the sport to enter the promised land. It was a complete lie.



Ah, the complaining is part of the sport. What made Maradona's Hand of God so glorious is exactly that. People want to neuter the sport of the human passion, the human debate, the human fallibility, and the human eye physically at the pitch.

Even with VAR we still have the groaning and complaining about human judgement. The difference is now we stop play, we celebrate goals at the wrong times ... or we don't even if we should be, etc. It's turned football into coitus interruptus.

That's because what we all just really want, apparently, is for the sport to become about calculated video game robots playing for pixel-perfect cameras watched by fatasses sitting at home on their couches in front of their TVs. Nobody even needs to be in the stadiums and see actual moving human flesh anymore.
For a long time I was even against goal-line technology. But it's time to accept that all sports is for TV consumption and being right has become more important than being fair. VAR will get better with time, especially the parts that's completely dependant on technology, like offside. Fouls will still be subjective, but that's okay. You and I might not like it, but for football to survive, it has to embrace more technology, not less.
 
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Ah, the complaining is part of the sport. What made Maradona's Hand of God so glorious is exactly that. People want to neuter the sport of the human passion, the human debate, the human fallibility, and the human eye physically at the pitch.

Even with VAR we still have the groaning and complaining about human judgement. The difference is now we stop play, we celebrate goals at the wrong times ... or we don't even if we should be, etc. It's turned football into coitus interruptus.

That's because what we all just really want, apparently, is for the sport to become about calculated video game robots playing for pixel-perfect cameras watched by fatasses sitting at home on their couches in front of their TVs. Nobody even needs to be in the stadiums and see actual moving human flesh anymore.
What we need to find is the absolute travesty that is the NFL's rules.

American football has instilled corner cameras and jock cameras and earlobe devices to mic up all people to make sure it's as accurate as possible, but we still have this weird thing.

After a run or pass, the ref "places" the ball in a general spot visually attenuated and defined by a mass of 600 kgs of meat pinching and punching each other in a scrum; and still uses chains to define if it's "close" or not when it would be absolutely easier to put a chip in each end of the ball.

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One reason African, Asian and north american teams are making progress is that Europe leagues welcome players from these continents and they make huge improvements by participating in top quality competitions on a consistent basis.

But in terms of result Europe NT are not regressing at all, and NT from other continents haven't made it further yet.

No doubt Europe is the hub of football and it still will be.
Well, and you're forgetting that in so-ding it reduces the number of places in a team or league for a player who would have had a place in 1975.
 

GordoDeCentral

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Apr 14, 2005
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Nice to see the krauts out after their fake activist stunt. Why do these overpaid morons think we are interested in hearing what they have to say about anything, most of them can't even get through a football interview. You believe qatar is a humanitarian shithole, which it is, don't go there and get paid for it. Simple.
As much as i hate fifa and everything it stands for, i really applaud their stance against using the sport as a political pulpit for hollow cringe social justice sermons.
 

IliveForJuve

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Jan 17, 2011
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Id assume NT earned more so its fair that male players get compensated adequately. This equality bs for the sake of it is annoying. If female sports isnt attracting as many lucrative sponsorship deals, females will get paid less. Thats fair.
Hoes will complain, especially those who don't even watch the sport. Well, perhaps if more women followed women's football they'd make more.

Responsibility is always placed on us men to make things work.
 

kappa96

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Jun 20, 2018
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Hoes will complain, especially those who don't even watch the sport. Well, perhaps if more women followed women's football they'd make more.

Responsibility is always placed on us men to make things work.
Pretty much. Saw a Bill Burr stand-up on Netflix the other day and the guy legitimately asked the women in the crowd why don't they support their fellow athletes and fill the venues if they are all for equal pay in sports bringing up for example a wnba match that only had like 1000 people in a 15000-20000 venue.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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Pretty much. Saw a Bill Burr stand-up on Netflix the other day and the guy legitimately asked the women in the crowd why don't they support their fellow athletes and fill the venues if they are all for equal pay in sports bringing up for example a wnba match that only had like 1000 people in a 15000-20000 venue.
In part they've started doing that though.

A big problem imo is the lack of athleticism and training of the women in team sports. If you look at female 100m sprinters, they are insane athletes and very well trained. They outrun 99.9% of men in the world. That is definitely something I could watch.

This is not the case in for example female football players. They are not fit and they are not even technically strong. I am an amateur player, but I am very confident that I could walk onto any female national football team and be among their best players instantly. Which is demonstrated by the fact that they routinely lose (and lose big) when they play 14 year old kids. Don't get me wrong, I think it is improving. But progress is slow.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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Nice to see the krauts out after their fake activist stunt. Why do these overpaid morons think we are interested in hearing what they have to say about anything, most of them can't even get through a football interview. You believe qatar is a humanitarian shithole, which it is, don't go there and get paid for it. Simple.
As much as i hate fifa and everything it stands for, i really applaud their stance against using the sport as a political pulpit for hollow cringe social justice sermons.
I'm not even against using sport to take a stance. But then take a stance. Wear the armband. Stay home. If it is something you truly believe in, follow through. Easy gestures are meaningless, social activism is supposed to be hard.

And lgbtqia+ rights? Really? Maybe we could start by focussing on the human rights infringements that have caused real and actual deaths in relation to this World Cup.
 
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