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Dostoevsky

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There are plenty of times I don't like watching Juve at all and I wish the rules would change even during those games. But Juve don't make the rules. We do what we can do within the rules to win. Doesn't mean I like the rules.

In terms of chances it was an even game. France deserved to win every bit as much as we did.

But the reason they finally did win had little to do with the game. They won by being cunts. And the rules favour cunts.



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Even? Well, we just disagree on that. No reason to be a bitch about it. I just posted my opinion based on many chances that France missed. They could have scored 2-3 times easily. You had 3 shots on target.
 

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Seven

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Because you posted nonsense. You talk about pride, yet you support Juventus who did the exact thing hundred of times. Not just Juve, but Serie A and Italy generally.

Then I said how French had a more experienced team and how they created more chances. Which is only a fact.

Then you popped up like a teen girl speaking about my NT and how they crashed. So in your weird opinion, only Frech and England/Croats could speak about your NT and give their opinion, because you reached semis.

Belgium went passed Japan rightfully so. They were better than Brazil and passed through. They were not better than France. Hopefully that makes you feel better.
If you say France has a more experienced team it is a demonstrable fact you don't know anything about the two teams at all. Belgium are the more experienced team.

Yes. Juve do it too. We win because we set aside our pride. Just how thick are you? I don't have to like it simply because Juve do it too. I understand Juve have to do it too. Because the rules make it so.

That's why I say, change the rules. Stop the clock. The answer is so easy.

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Seven

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You just should have lost against England. @Seven
No, we'd have gone out against Colombia imo. We are just very poor against teams that play destructive football.

If Belgium had to play Juventus, we'd lose 8-0.

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Seven

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Even? Well, we just disagree on that. No reason to be a bitch about it. I just posted my opinion based on many chances that France missed. They could have scored 2-3 times easily. You had 3 shots on target.
It's fine that you like the French.

But have the same World Cup with a clock that is stopped when the ball goes out and France would be world champions too.

Because they have a shitload of quality in their team.

The difference? They'd play great football.

I don't know why you prefer time wasting.

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PhRoZeN

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Yes. Juve do it too. We win because we set aside our pride. Just how thick are you? I don't have to like it simply because Juve do it too. I understand Juve have to do it too. Because the rules make it so.

That's why I say, change the rules. Stop the clock. The answer is so easy.

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What's pride got to do with this? It's catenaccio, a game of chess but on the field.

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Seven

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What's pride got to do with this? It's catenaccio, a game of chess but on the field.

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You have to be willing to be a cunt.

Like I said the game encourages such behaviour. Take that yellow card for Mbappe for instance. What you get is a game in which he is applauded for being a cunt. Because it's 'smart'.

That would change if you change the rules.

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Seven

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Deschamps :touched:

great coach tho, got them to the final. has nothing to do with them being twice as good and twice as athletically superior as all their opponents so far
Yep.

France have got the most talented squad in the world and this is how they play. And some of you even admire it.

You'd have to be a lunatic imo.

Nevertheless they are a just world champion. Because they are still the best team. Even if Deschamps is intent on taking all the joy out of football.

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zizinho

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Yep.

France have got the most talented squad in the world and this is how they play. And some of you even admire it.

You'd have to be a lunatic imo.

Nevertheless they are a just world champion. Because they are still the best team. Even if Deschamps is intent on taking all the joy out of football.

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i just cant believe he screws up an immensely talented generation for 2 tournaments in a row and gets away with it. bring Zidane in already!!!
 

PhRoZeN

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You have to be willing to be a $#@!.

Like I said the game encourages such behaviour. Take that yellow card for Mbappe for instance. What you get is a game in which he is applauded for being a $#@!. Because it's 'smart'.

That would change if you change the rules.

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Understand where you're coming from but I think youre just at the wrong end of it. Had it been Belgium you wouldn't have even thought about this but instead be celebrating by drinking vodka and doing the bubashka. It's part of the game maybe VAR could play a part but nothing's gonna change. Commiseration to your team, they were the better team IMO

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Seven

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i just cant believe he screws up an immensely talented generation for 2 tournaments in a row and gets away with it. bring Zidane in already!!!
It's how the game is evolving too though.

And as Dusan points out, we as Juventus do this often as well.

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Dostoevsky

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It's fine that you like the French.

But have the same World Cup with a clock that is stopped when the ball goes out and France would be world champions too.

Because they have a shitload of quality in their team.

The difference? They'd play great football.

I don't know why you prefer time wasting.

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I never said I like time wasting. Not once. I'm saying how you support Juve and Italy while they do the same. So I'm kinda surprised how it irritates you now even after you witnessed it trillion of times.

If I were you I could never watch Serie A because that's 95% of the matches imo.

Oh and by the way, clubs do it because it's effective. You're entering now "you don't play pretty football" which is supported by Barca fans around the globe. It's getting results, obviously. And even at time wasting matches you get to see quality football. Not everything is about (brainless) running, like what EPL provides.
 

Seven

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Understand where you're coming from but I think your just at the wrong end of it. Had it been Belgium you wouldn't have even thought about this but instead be celebrating by drinking vodka and doing the bubashka. It's part of the game maybe VAR could play a part but nothing's gonna change. Commiseration to your team, they were the better team IMO

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I've said it before but you absolutely can't blame the French. They do what they have to do within the rules.

It's just that it would be so easy to change the rules and finally end this nonsense.

Btw it didn't just bug me today, it annoys me when I play football on Sunday too. You get people pulling this shit in Sunday league. And every fucking week.

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Seven

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I never said I like time wasting. Not once. I'm saying how you support Juve and Italy while they do the same. So I'm kinda surprised how it irritates you now even after you witnessed it trillion of times.

If I were you I could never watch Serie A because that's 95% of the matches imo.

Oh and by the way, clubs do it because it's effective. You're entering now "you don't play pretty football" which is supported by Barca fans around the globe. It's getting results, obviously. And even at time wasting matches you get to see quality football. Not everything is about (brainless) running, like what EPL provides.
No. It's not about pretty football. It's only logical that teams do it. That's why I don't think the French or Juventus do anything wrong.

It is what the game is like today.

But you don't seem to understand that we could easily get all time wasting out of the game. Just change the rules.

Maybe you're cool with Deschamps instructing incredible players like Griezmann and Mbappe to lie down, bitch and waste time every chance they get, when they could be playing football.



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Seven

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I also don't get why you lot think it's so impossible to change the rules. It isn't. Just stop the clock. It's pretty easy. They do it in tons of sports.

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Dostoevsky

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No. It's not about pretty football. It's only logical that teams do it. That's why I don't think the French or Juventus do anything wrong.

It is what the game is like today.

But you don't seem to understand that we could easily get all time wasting out of the game. Just change the rules.

Maybe you're cool with Deschamps instructing incredible players like Griezmann and Mbappe to lie down, bitch and waste time every chance they get, when they could be playing football.

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I'd punish drama lessions with a red card and there's no doubt about that. What Busquets and Neymar do is nothing but disgusting. That should be punished way harder. What Mbappe did today is disgusting but I admire him as a player a whole lot more than Neymar and other drama queens.

Change the rules to stop wasting minutes? What do you mean? Or more precise, by introducing which rules exactly?
 

Seven

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I'd punish drama lessions with a red card and there's no doubt about that. What Busquets and Neymar do is nothing but disgusting. That should be punished way harder. What Mbappe did today is disgusting but I admire him as a player a whole lot more than Neymar and other drama queens.

Change the rules to stop wasting minutes? What do you mean? Or more precise, by introducing which rules exactly?
The solution is very easy. Stop the clock. Like they do in basketball.

Games wouldn't last 90 minutes of course. You could make it 60 (during an average game at this World Cup the ball was in play for 55 minutes).

It would improve the quality of so many games imo.

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I'd punish drama lessions with a red card and there's no doubt about that. What Busquets and Neymar do is nothing but disgusting. That should be punished way harder. What Mbappe did today is disgusting but I admire him as a player a whole lot more than Neymar and other drama queens.

Change the rules to stop wasting minutes? What do you mean? Or more precise, by introducing which rules exactly?
Stop the clock.
 

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