World Cup 2018 LIVE thread (56 Viewers)

[X Æ A-12]

VAR has been good in the World Cup, but it's still early. I think it's mostly a failure in Serie A because of how it short-circuits game play and disrupts any fan excitement. But Serie A has played a lot more matches than the Cup yet.

And as far as game-changing decisions with referee errors, we will still get those with VAR. That was part of my point.

I know. That some decisions will still be incorrect is a poor reason not to use it imo.

 

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[Osman]

VAR so shit so far

Everything on point except they should seen on VAR that Diego Costa fouled the flopping retard Pepe.

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[swag]

But much less so, that is our point

It should narrow the window. But the issue is who are the arguments with as to whether it's a good call or a bad one? The reference is.... tadaaaa! ... people watching in slow motion with multiple camera angles on TV.

That's the standard upon which its effectiveness is judged, and that standard is not even "reality". The benchmark is an artificial construct.

 

[X Æ A-12]

Everything on point except they should seen on VAR that Diego Costa fouled the flopping retard Pepe.

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It was clear foul but I'm kinda glad we still got to see that golasso

 

[Osman]

Var has almost completely eliminated game decisive mistakes. It's by far a big plus impact so far. How people can't accept that because it just takes few seconds longer is silly imo.


It's badly needed in CL.

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[X Æ A-12]

It should narrow the window. But the issue is who are the arguments with as to whether it's a good call or a bad one? The reference is.... tadaaaa! ... people watching in slow motion with multiple camera angles on TV.

That's the standard upon which its effectiveness is judged, and that standard is not even "reality". The benchmark is an artificial construct.

You've been in Western Europe how long and already annoyingly pretentious

 

[lgorTudor]

I love VAR especially German VAR in DFB Pokal Finals

 

[swag]

You've been in Western Europe how long and already annoyingly pretentious

Ha! A month and a half, but I already got it down like some chainsmoking, Fernando-Pessoa-reading, café-squatting, espresso-sipping Eurodouche.

But then that was true before I got here.

 

[X Æ A-12]

Ha! A month and a half, but I already got it down like some chainsmoking, Fernando-Pessoa-reading, café-squatting, espresso-sipping Eurodouche.

But then that was true before I got here.

I guess ok as long as you haven't started wearing a hat to match.

 

[pitbull]

I cant see this Sweden getting a result against Germany or Mexico, Germans got lucky with this group

 

[Wittl]

I love VAR especially German VAR in DFB Pokal Finals

That was such a poor decision I loved it!
@BayernFan

 

[swag]

Var has almost completely eliminated game decisive mistakes. It's by far a big plus impact so far. How people can't accept that because it just takes few seconds longer is silly imo.


It's badly needed in CL.

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That presumes that the best way to judge reality and errors is from the infallible position of a TV screen with multiple camera angles played in slow-motion. That's a perverse form of presumed reality to me, so I dismiss it more than the average person as a confidence in false gods.

VAR is categorically designed to reduce aggravation for the TV viewer based on the methods they use to broadcast the game. Maybe someday they will wire up players with RFID chips and computer models so that the rest of the calls mirror what happens with goal line technology -- namely that the perspective of judgement and truth has nothing to do with TV viewers. Until then, this is what we get.

I guess ok as long as you haven't started wearing a hat to match.

I think I need to buy one next week.

 

[Seven]

That presumes that the best way to judge reality and errors is from the infallible position of a TV screen with multiple camera angles played in slow-motion. That's a perverse form of presumed reality to me, so I dismiss it more than the average person as a confidence in false gods.

VAR is categorically designed to reduce aggravation for the TV viewer based on the methods they use to broadcast the game. Maybe someday they will wire up players with RFID chips and computer models so that the rest of the calls mirror what happens with goal line technology -- namely that the perspective has nothing to do with TV viewers. Until then, this is what we get.

For the love of God please stop reading Pirandello.

 

[DAiDEViL]

Sweden go home!

 

[Seven]

You've been in Western Europe how long and already annoyingly pretentious

It's how we roll. I remember walking around in San Francisco and thinking what backwards peasants the people were.

 

[swag]

For the love of God please stop reading Pirandello.

Abel-worthy reference. @GordoDeCentral.

 

[Dantes]

VAR has been good in the World Cup, but it's still early. I think it's mostly a failure in Serie A because of how it short-circuits game play and disrupts any fan excitement. But Serie A has played a lot more matches than the Cup yet.

And as far as game-changing decisions with referee errors, we will still get those with VAR. That was part of my point.

VAR has been a disaster in the English FA Cup as well. But I've been quite impressed at its implementation in this World Cup.

I can only assume that's down to different people implementing the systems and/or having the benefit of experience (i.e. what not do to). I know it's obvious, but VAR is only as good as the people behind it.

My only concern is at what point does the referee stop the game to review VAR?

Straightaway? Interrupts the game.
Or imagine one team has a penalty call, the ref waits and the other team go up the other end and scores? That'll result in chaos.

 

[Osman]

You've been in Western Europe how long and already annoyingly pretentious

Dude He is from San Fran. World capital for pretentious hipsters.

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[Osman]

That presumes that the best way to judge reality and errors is from the infallible position of a TV screen with multiple camera angles played in slow-motion. That's a perverse form of presumed reality to me, so I dismiss it more than the average person as a confidence in false gods.

VAR is categorically designed to reduce aggravation for the TV viewer based on the methods they use to broadcast the game. Maybe someday they will wire up players with RFID chips and computer models so that the rest of the calls mirror what happens with goal line technology -- namely that the perspective of judgement and truth has nothing to do with TV viewers. Until then, this is what we get.



I think I need to buy one next week.

I honestly don't know what the heck you are talking about lol.

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[Seven]

Dude He is from San Fran. World capital for pretentious hipsters.

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You'd think so. But I think Western Europe is a whole lot worse .

We tend to get less carried away though. Most of us don't know what the fuck 'cisgender' means for example.

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Or imagine one team has a penalty call, the ref waits and the other team go up the other end and scores? That'll result in chaos.

I think with the rules as they are the referee has to wait for the end of the play. So this is an unfortunate possibility.