World Christian Day- The account of a non believer. (3 Viewers)

[madlawyer1]

Forgive this Catholic his very Catholic point of view on the matter of religion, using a famous quote:

"I'd rather live my life as if there is a God and find out at the end of my life that there isn't one, than live my life as if there is no God and find out at the end of my life that there is one."

I forget who said it right now, but I'll try to remember later. The simple fact of the matter is that everybody is wired differently. Some people are wired to believe a supreme being exists, who has laid down some ground rules for the conduct of our lives, and expects us to follow them so that we may be rewarded by being with him (or her) at the end of our lives.

Others believe no such thing exists, and so the only reason for living is to pursue the maximum enjoyment we can get out of living.

Others are caught in the middle of these two powerful forces.

Some point out terrible events that happen to good people as proof that there is no God. Some point out inexplicable events like escaping from multi-car pile-ups unhurt as proof there is a God.

There is no way to convince a person either way. Believing or not comes from within.

 

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[Dan]

++ [ originally posted by swag ] ++
Arguments of faith versus science aside, I think your trip would have been far more compelling, Dan, as more of an observer than a doer.

It would be one thing, for example, if I were to step into a Hindu temple, paid the same respects they did and tried to learn what motivated their customs and thinking -- even if I could not fully relate to it.

It would be another thing if I went in telling everyone I was reincarnated in the spirit of Brahman, started impersonating Abu from The Simpsons, and ate McDonald's hamburgers with a vengeance.

Why even bother going if for little more than to mock the beliefs of others? Seems kind of pointless and a waste of time.

If this went on in SF, wouldnt you go? Even as a non-pious person, Its still a big thing happening in town. I dont regret going- it was good fun. Plus i avoided the whole thing for about 4 days already so it was due a visit.

 

[Dan]

Anyway andy, should you respond to mine, I wont bother responding back. Im tired now, and Im not going to convince you to my side anyway, though thanks for stimulating my brain a little. In the end, there are no facts, only interpretations, so ill agree to disagree with you on this one.

 

[Tifoso]

++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++


I concur Greg, nice post.

As do I

 

[swag]

++ [ originally posted by Dan ] ++


If this went on in SF, wouldnt you go? Even as a non-pious person, Its still a big thing happening in town. I dont regret going- it was good fun. Plus i avoided the whole thing for about 4 days already so it was due a visit.

Oh, I would definitely be curious to check it out... whether it was Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Shintoists, Buddhists, etc. In fact, even moreso because I'm not as closely familiar with a number of those belief systems.

 

[Slagathor]

We had something of the sort in The Hague once. I was trying to get home from work but there were all these religious people (couldn't tell which religion it was... protestant christian I think) blocking my way. Somewhere in the middle of a huge crowd I got so annoyed I bluntly cursed along the lines of: "Oh for Christ's sake"

I came home 2 hours later with a bag full of flyers carrying titles such as: "The evils of sinning" and "Cursing hurts the soul"

 

[Dan]

++ [ originally posted by Erik ] ++
We had something of the sort in The Hague once. I was trying to get home from work but there were all these religious people (couldn't tell which religion it was... protestant christian I think) blocking my way. Somewhere in the middle of a huge crowd I got so annoyed I bluntly cursed along the lines of: "Oh for Christ's sake"

I came home 2 hours later with a bag full of flyers carrying titles such as: "The evils of sinning" and "Cursing hurts the soul"

:groan: Its not as if I actually go around and post anti christian messages in their mailbox

 

[Slagathor]

You should try that, just for the hell of it. See how many flyers you will end up with

 

[Dan]

Why not. If im dead tomorrow, ill regret I didnt do these fun ' taboo ' things anyway!

 

[Slagathor]

Exactly. And that way, if you die, you get to throw a cool remark at God at Heaven's Gate cause you won't be getting in anyway.

"Oh ffs"

 

[swag]

Back in graduate school when I had long hair along with a beard, I often answered the door for Jehovah's Witnesses by saying, "Look, I died for your sins already. What else do I have to do for you guys?" and sign their bibles for them.

 

[Dan]

I would probably say:

' Why didn't you make it clearer you sick son of a *****! '

 

[Slagathor]

lol yeah I'd probably curse at him for that one too

"So you're into subtelty then?"

++ [ originally posted by swag ] ++
Back in graduate school when I had long hair along with a beard, I often answered the door for Jehovah's Witnesses by saying, "Look, I died for your sins already. What else do I have to do for you guys?" and sign their bibles for them.

Friend of mine always has cool answers to Jehova's witnesses. Once I was at his house and they came 'round: "We came to bring you Jesus"

So he (wearing sweat pants, holding a bear and scratching his arse - on purpose), goes: "Spleeeendid. Put him in the garage, will you?" and slams the door

 

[Dan]

++ [ originally posted by swag ] ++
Back in graduate school when I had long hair along with a beard, I often answered the door for Jehovah's Witnesses by saying, "Look, I died for your sins already. What else do I have to do for you guys?" and sign their bibles for them.

See thats the ephinany of having fun in life. Just doing funny little shit which you can look back on and smile about.

 

[Dan]

++ [ originally posted by Erik ] ++
lol yeah I'd probably curse at him for that one too

"So you're into subtelty then?"





Friend of mine always has cool answers to Jehova's witnesses. Once I was at his house and they came 'round: "We came to bring you Jesus"

So he (wearing sweat pants, holding a bear and scratching his arse - on purposse), goes: "Spleeeendid. Put him in the garage, will you?" and slams the door

Thats the funniest thing ive heard all day!

The second one that is

 

[swag]

Reminds me of a story from my best friend from grade school. His dad was a cop, and a patient one at that. One cold Chicago winter day, he listened to them intently on his doorstep and then said, "It's terribly cold outside -- must be about 5 degrees (Fahrenheit). Why are you out here on a day like this?"

They answered, "Because God wants us out here."

He replied, "Good, because I want you out there too." <door slam>

 

[Lawnchair Bes]

at such moments one must turn into the deepest source of knowledge on the matter. watch the new simpsons episode

 

[Max]

:LOL:

I like the one from Robin Williams' Live on Broadway, where he suggests to answer the door naked, and when the Jehova's Witnesses ask, "Have you found Jesus?", you say, "No, but would you help me look for him?"

 

[JCK]

++ [ originally posted by Max ] ++
:LOL:

I like the one from Robin Williams' Live on Broadway, where he suggests to answer the door naked, and when the Jehova's Witnesses ask, "Have you found Jesus?", you say, "No, but would you help me look for him?"

Or when he talks about Jesus' brother :LOL:

 

[Lawnchair Bes]

i had two chinesse people who were cristians come and tell me with the exact words that if i dont believe in jesus that i would go to hell