Wishlist and General Juve winter mercato talk (2013-14) (79 Viewers)

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Dgt10

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Just an enquiry, if Russian/Qatari billionaire wanted to buy juve from agnelli, would you guys want that or rather not have foreign investors ?

There's advantages to both, if you become and rich club like psg, man city, etc, you have unlimited money and buy whoever you want. But on the other hand, you kind of lose your dignity as a club, no one really respects you and every player you buy will cost 15m extra because clubs know you could afford it. Also you kinda know the players are there for money and not loyal.
 

Bianconero81

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More money coming into the club, and into the league can only be good for us. I mean, the whole FFP thing is a joke, so if you can't beat them, join them.

We would be far more appealing than the other rich/oil clubs in this situation as we have history and tradition on our side.

However, it would ultimately depend on whether the prospective owners really love the club, or just see it as a pure business opportunity and nothing else.

Heck, if I was a billionaire, I'd invest in Juventus and do the utmost in my power to make them win the CL.

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More money coming into the club, and into the league can only be good for us. I mean, the whole FFP thing is a joke, so if you can't beat them, join them.

We would be far more appealing than the other rich/oil clubs in this situation as we have history and tradition on our side.

However, it would ultimately depend on whether the prospective owners really love the club, or just see it as a pure business opportunity and nothing else.

Heck, if I was a billionaire, I'd invest in Juventus and do the utmost in my power to make them win the CL.
 

GordoDeCentral

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what kind of selfish, egomaniacal billionaire will invest 100's of million in a club just to see it succeed for the sake of success?? nope people do these things for a specific reason be it economical, marketing of a cause/country... heck even abramovic did it for strategic reasons
 

Catenaccio

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A lot of people may disagree with me here, but if Juve are seriously considering Osvaldo to replace Vucinic, then why not just call up Berardi now. In my view Berardi at his young age is perhaps already as good as Osvaldo and I don't see the downside in integrating him into the side now.

The reason I say that is, I believe that if Berardi came today, he would be higher in the pecking order than Giovinco and Quagliarella given his characteristics and ability.

It is becoming painfully clear that Juve cannot compete with most clubs on the transfer market for established players - PSG, Monaco, Chelsea, Arsenal, Man City, Man U, Barcelona, Real Madrid and Bayern Munich will all outbid us and we will mostly succeed in buying established players that are either not wanted elsewhere or where we can convince the player to insist on Juventus to lower the price tag. And the way the Bundesliga is going, don't be surprised if teams like Dortmund have the licence to spend more money than we do.

Juve have no choice but to cultivate young players and have them integrated into the team faster than what was the case in the past. Fortunately, Paratici and Marotta have shown ability to create value from this. Pogba as an example is a player that perhaps 10 years ago, would not have received the playing time he needed this early in his career at Juventus.

If Vucinic goes, I think there is a strong case to bring Berardi in early if Conte thinks he could be first change to Llorente. Lets not forget that Tevez and Llorente are regular first choices but Europa league will have us playing every 3 days again and international friendlies leading up to the world cup will also take its toll on the players.
 

ZoSo

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Jul 11, 2011
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Tevez had other big money offers, I believe from Monaco & Anzi and Real Madrid also came in late to the negotiations but he still decided to join us. Just shows that not all hope is lost.
 

Joe

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I'd never want a Qatari oil baron turd to own our club.

We can still compete, we just have to be wise with our purchases and investments.

Just look at BvB.
 

Bianconero81

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BVB are an exception, not the rule; compete for a season or two, and then fall by the wayside.

If you want to remain competitive long-term, deploy the Bayern model.

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I'd never want a Qatari oil baron turd to own our club.

We can still compete, we just have to be wise with our purchases and investments.

Just look at BvB.
Racist :stuckup:

What about an Italo-Canadian billionaire? :p
 

Catenaccio

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I'd never want a Qatari oil baron turd to own our club.

We can still compete, we just have to be wise with our purchases and investments.

Just look at BvB.
And wise we will be. But in the end, other clubs don't wish to be "unwise". We will always be at a natural disadvantage.

Without a big oil barron or new backer willing to inject substantial money into the club there are only 2 scenarios that could get us back up to the world's elite financially:

1) We get into a winning cycle in Europe. This would feed on itself and would raise funds.
2) We outsmart everyone on the transfer market every year before we get to that point or thereafter.

My view is the squad as it stands today is good enough to get into the latter stages of the champions league, but not good enough to win it. We would need a few more shrewd transfers and some luck to be in a position to win it - but we will always face an uphill battle here.

The longer an Italian team doesn't win the champions league or Italian clubs continue to flop in Europe, the overall popularity of the league (both players and fans) will deteriorate. Even if Juve keeps winning back to back titles, we will just get a higher share of a shrinking pie.

What Italian football needs is new stadiums, a winning cycle from 1 or 2 Italian teams to generate revenue momentum. Otherwise it will need wealthy backers to speed up the process. The problem is its harder for that to happen now because of Financial Fair Play - it was easier to get there before because there were no limits on losses etc - now there is.
 
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