Wishlist and General Juve winter mercato talk (2013-14) (80 Viewers)

[Vlad]

Our team is excellent as it is, and doesnt really need reinforcements, just better form and llorente/pogba/ogbonna to grow

We need wingers Zach, simple as that. Current system will lead us nowhere in Europe. I appreciate and applaud Licht's and Asamoah's hard work, but they can't make a difference when and where it matters.

 

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[Red]

Whatever happens, if 3-5-2 continues then Cuadrado is an absolute must. That guy is the only wingback out there who is as good as these proper attacking wingers.

I just don't see him as a wing back, as good a player as he is.

If you want a winger type who could be an adequate wing back, I'd see if Man Utd fancy selling Valencia.

 

[Pirlo's Beard]

Criscito and Cuadrado. For starters... if we want to keep the.....


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Nah Valencia is a downgrade on Licht, very bad player. Had a decent season 1 or 2 years ago but god no

Would rather rely on Pepe.

 

[Red]

We need wingers Zach, simple as that. Current system will lead us nowhere in Europe. I appreciate and applaud Licht's and Asamoah's hard work, but they can't make a difference when and where it matters.

I think you'd be fine to play one of the two.

To play two wing backs who aren't good crossers has never seemed a good idea to me.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

I just don't see him as a wing back, as good a player as he is.

If you want a winger type who could be an adequate wing back, I'd see if Man Utd fancy selling Valencia.

i don't mind valencia but he is prone to errors in his positioning

 

[Vlad]

If someone offered 18-20 million for Bonucci he can go; 25-30 million for Marchisio and you can dispense with him. I'd even reluctantly allow Vucinic to leave, IF the offer was right. However, Buffon, Vidal, Pogba, Pirlo (if he accepts the new terms and conditions presented to him), Barzagli, Tevez, and Llorente shouldn't be sold at any price.

Btw, what's with the sudden attack on Tevez? People wanting to get rid of him already?

Yes, I'd rather sacrifice few squad players and try to keep a WC one like Vidal, or incredible prospect and by some, including me already an excellent player, Pogba. We can gather necessary funds by selling players like Padoin, Peluso, Quag, Gio, Vucinic and even Bonucci or Marchisio, not all of them of course. Reducing the squad size and lowering the wage bill should be our priority.

 

[Red]

i don't mind valencia but he is prone to errors in his positioning

Absolutely, but you are going to have to give up some defensive solidity if you want to find a player who could be more productive going forward.

I think Valencia would be a decent balance as he is a good crosser and can beat his man, but isn't as bad defensively as most players who can do those things.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

Absolutely, but you are going to have to give up some defensive solidity if you want to find a player who could be more productive going forward.

I think Valencia would be a decent balance as he is a good crosser and can beat his man, but isn't as bad defensively as most players who can do those things.

agreed, his end product is pretty decent a very underrated player if you ask me

 

[Suns]

Absolutely, but you are going to have to give up some defensive solidity if you want to find a player who could be more productive going forward.

I think Valencia would be a decent balance as he is a good crosser and can beat his man, but isn't as bad defensively as most players who can do those things.

I know, but something has to give. You can't have 9 players fully devoted to defence without any presence in the third half of the pitch.

Fuckin' Isla, he was suppose to be that guy.

 

[Red]

Yes, I'd rather sacrifice few squad players rather than a WC one like Vidal, or incredible prospect and by some, including me already an excellent player, Pogba. We can gather necessary funds by selling players like Padoin, Peluso, Quag, Gio, Vucinic and even Bonucci or Marchisio, not all of them of course.

My first thought when contemplating Juve getting the most out of a reduced budget was that one (or two) of them need to go and be replaced by cheaper options - whether those cheaper options are the likes of Zaza or Gabbiadini or if it means trying to get Gilardino again is open to debate.

 

[LiquidPLP]

It's pointless to look for wingbacks. It all comes down to buying at least one winger (preferably two) no matter whether they're going to be wingbacks or more offensive wingers. The latter will be easier to find that's the difference.

 

[Zacheryah]

Valencia ? I tought he was the guy that pushed nani out of the starting 11 cause MUCH more consistent, less offensively, but solid defensively.

I mean, what prices are we talking about here ?



From my POV, we need to think about the new playmaker, but we are strapped for cash. Instead of selling our valuabale players, i'd like us to stick with what we have and see what we can improve

Naingollan could allow coverage for the 3-5-2 and allow 4-3-2-1 when 1 of the cm's is out.
Hernanes, nah. Not even sure his offensive is that much better then marchisio when played advanced in a 4-3-2-1, let alone challenge tevez in a 3-5-2.

We could look into getting an offensive version for a wingback. I hoped isla would deliver, but seems like he was a mistake.

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It's pointless to look for wingbacks. It all comes down to buying at least one winger (preferably two) no matter whether they're going to wingbacks or more offensive wingers. The latter will be easier to find that's the difference.

Wingers, will move tevez out of the team, and/or limit pogba and vidal significantly

If your wingers are Di Maria and Lavezzi, certainly. But the cold truth is, that we cannot afford wingers that have such quality, that they could pull that off

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'll simplify

3-5-2 or 4-3-2-1 with pogba and vidal allowed aggressive pressing and forward runs, and tevez in the team

is MUCH better then

any formation with tevez benched and pogba and vidal forced to hold the midfield deep with rare offensive impulses , IF the wingers are average.
You need world class wingers to do this. Even Nani wouldnt be enough.

 

[Vlad]

I think you'd be fine to play one of the two.

To play two wing backs who aren't good crossers has never seemed a good idea to me.

Of course, one player capable of either beating his man or putting in some cross would suffice for the time being and for the balance of the play.

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If your wingers are Di Maria and Lavezzi, certainly. But the cold truth is, that we cannot afford wingers that have such quality, that they could pull that off

Menez for free seems like a very interesting idea. Not a WC, but certainly a player capable of producing something extra in the final 3rd.

 

[Zacheryah]

We need wingers Zach, simple as that. Current system will lead us nowhere in Europe. I appreciate and applaud Licht's and Asamoah's hard work, but they can't make a difference when and where it matters.

My favorite formation is a 4-2-3-1.
I was this forum's first and biggest fan of it, when people still jerked off at other formations and later 4-3-3.

A true 4-2-3-1 is played with inside forwards or wingers. SO yeah, i do value wings (that cut inside or go round for a cross/cutback cross)

Thing is, 2 wingers and a trequartista, tevez benched, vidal and pogba in inferior roles ?

We need about 100 mil and NO sales of any significant players, to pull that off.
Allow me

Buffon

Lichtsteiner - Barzagli - Chiellini - Asamoah

Vidal - Pogba

Lucas - Draxxler - Lavezzi

Llorente​

I'd totally go wings with that. if we had 100 mil somehow

 

[Pirlo's Beard]

I know, but something has to give. You can't have 9 players fully devoted to defence without any presence in the third half of the pitch.

$#@!in' Isla, he was suppose to be that guy.

Agreed fully

Sure it's important to have a solid defensive unit. But enough is enough, it has to stop somewhere before we end up buy strikers based on freaking defensive qualities first and goals second.

 

[Zacheryah]

Of course, one player capable of either beating his man or putting in some cross would suffice for the time being and for the balance of the play.

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Menez for free seems very interesting idea. Not a WC, but certainly a player capable of producing something extra in the final 3rd.

Menez his offensve value, is less then the limit you put on pogba and vidal, let alone taking tevez of the field

he is not good enough.

Lavezzi and Lucas, are good enough (bold statement incomming : lucas is the best rightwinger in the world for juve IF COACHED RIGHT, cause not very intelligent)

 

[LiquidPLP]

Wingers, will move tevez out of the team, and/or limit pogba and vidal significantly

If your wingers are Di Maria and Lavezzi, certainly. But the cold truth is, that we cannot afford wingers that have such quality, that they could pull that off

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'll simplify

3-5-2 or 4-3-2-1 with pogba and vidal allowed aggressive pressing and forward runs, and tevez in the team

is MUCH better then

any formation with tevez benched and pogba and vidal forced to hold the midfield deep with rare offensive impulses , IF the wingers are average.
You need world class wingers to do this. Even Nani wouldnt be enough.

We can't afford a quality AM either nor a wingback who are rather rare players these days. We've come to the point where we can't really use 352 anymore considering our CL record nor we can easily switch to something new.

I'll stay by my point. I'd go for a 433 with RWF being a true winger and LWF would be Tevez who'd be playing much more central role to Llorente. this way LB or B2B would be filling that left side when needed to let Tevez float around. we can't do any better as for now imo and I think this is what Conte has in mind too. After all he used Tevez as LW vs Real and he was just complaining about lack of RWF who could play there.

We need our RWF to be able to cross. It's ridiculous we have Llorente and actually don't use his ability to score from headers.

 

[Zacheryah]

We can't afford a quality AM either nor a wingback who are rather rare players these days. We've come to the point where we can't really use 352 anymore considering our CL record nor we can easily switch to something new.

I'll stay by my point. I'd go for a 433 with RWF being a true winger and LWF would be Tevez who'd be playing much more central role to Llorente. this way LB or B2B would be filling that left side when needed to let Tevez float around. we can't do any better as for now imo and I think this is what Conte has in mind too. After all he used Tevez as LW vs Real and he was just complaining about lack of RWF who could play there.

We need our RWF to be able to cross. It's ridiculous we have Llorente and actually don't use his ability to score from headers.

so we cant afford a quality am or wingback, but we can afford a winger ? and move tevez out of position ?

and have pogba and vidal cover more

What winger do you have in mind, ronaldo ?

 

[Bianconero81]

If each "True" Juventus fan donated $30 to the transfer kitty, we might be able to get someone

 

[Yuckerini]

If each "True" Juventus fan donated $30 to the transfer kitty, we might be able to get someone

Tbh I would do that. I love the club enough but my pathetic $30 won't be much help