Wishlist and General Juve winter mercato talk (2013-14) (16 Viewers)

[ZoSo]

I dont know, been a pretty long tme since a marotta signing didnt truely deliver.

Last one was isla iirc

doesn't matter. don't see why we should sign verratti when we already have pirlo who is also better and with great am we can play 4-3-1-2.

Invest in Lulic and Cuadrado next summer, and bring Berardi aboard

not good enough.

I think Tevez can be sold along with the other dead weight. Tevez cant play in a 3 man attack unless played out of position and secondly he is not the clinical goal scorer we wished he was. Llorente i am very impressed with i would like to see him as the main striker. Vucinic and Gio can be sold, Gio is not good enough and Vuc is 30 and he is still hit and miss.

We have 3 right backs Isla, Caceres and Lich. Isla is the odd player out for me as he is terrible in attack and defence. Bonucci is an accident waiting to happen in most of our games he is decent in a back 3 but if we move to back four he will be exposed to much so best off to sell him. DC11 not good enough to play more than 5 games a season for us. I like Peluso as (sub/rotation) player he gets the job done and is not bad at it.

Pirlo i would like to keep him but only as a part time player. We cant rely on 35 year olds every game it is not healthy for the team. A midfield of Vidal-Asamoah-Pogba as our main starters is pretty impressive, we have Pirlo and Marchisio to rotate in and out which are good options.

Cerci would be a decent purchase i think for us he can play right wing and through the centre and is very versatile. He would be a decent option for the right wing spot and wouldn't break the bank. We have Zaza and Berardi if we want to give a chance to youth. A LB is a must this season cant have Asamoah playing out of position all the time in a role he is not great at. Coentrao is available this summer a good LB for a reasonable price.

We are not that far off being a complete squad we just need the management to get there act together and start buying useful players.

we are not made of money, selling tevez would literally be retarded. unless you somehow can get us suarez for 9m also.

cerci can be a nice backup for wingers.

Exactly the point that infuriates me, and why you see me go on and on about formations all the time.

People post formations with average players, and expect it to deliver cause it has a certain shape.

People forget that our 3-5-2 would easely lock down that formation cause licht and asamoah will win the duels, and with wingers out of the game, our very strong CM wins the battle.

People forget, that this isnt real madrid. Yes, real can go wingplay and trash a 3-5-2. Just like Bayern.
WHy ? cause its fucking ronaldo, bale, di maria, robben, ribery, muller on the wings.

You dont buy such world class for peanuts

So we should get as much quality on the field as possible, and accomodate them with the formation that brings out most of them. hence the 3-5-2 around pirlo vidal marchisio/pogba

although I would argue even now a 4-3-1-2 would be better than 3-5-2 with freaking bonucci

Buffon
Licht-Barza-Chiellini-Ogbonna
Pogba-Pirlo-Asamoah
Vidal
Tevez-Llorente​

then we could get AM like Silva/Mata etc and LB maybe Coentrao/Kolarov etc

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What has he done special for us in the CL? he hasn't done any thing and he is no Del Piero. Del Piero could do something special along with scoring crucial goals as well. Tevez is just a mediocre version of Del Piero and i never liked his purchase in the first place just because he limits the formations u can play with him.

I think he is a pretty good player but u have to play 2 strikers every time with him.

where's the 40m-50m for suarez or cavani?

 

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[Vialli_92]

Tevez isnt really a creative player.He is more of a goal threat than helping his mates to score

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Dude only Van Persie and Rooney had scored more goals than him in the league during his time in Man City.

Drogba, Berbatov, Aguero, Suarez and Bent to name a few that have probably scored more than Tevez.

 

[Zacheryah]

What has he done special for us in the CL? he hasn't done any thing and he is no Del Piero. Del Piero could do something special along with scoring crucial goals as well. Tevez is just a mediocre version of Del Piero and i never liked his purchase in the first place just because he limits the formations u can play with him.

I think he is a pretty good player but u have to play 2 strikers every time with him.

same as del piero

 

[Vialli_92]

doesn't matter. don't see why we should sign verratti when we already have pirlo who is also better and with great am we can play 4-3-1-2.



not good enough.








although I would argue even now a 4-3-1-2 would be better than 3-5-2 with freaking bonucci

Buffon
Licht-Barza-Chiellini-Ogbonna
Pogba-Pirlo-Asamoah
Vidal
Tevez-Llorente​

then we could get AM like Silva/Mata etc and LB maybe Coentrao/Kolarov etc

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where's the 40m-50m for suarez or cavani?

I like that formation quite a lot, i have been crying out for Conte to literally try something like this. That team looks quite dangerous imo and couild really cause some harm to any team.

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same as del piero

Del Piero was worth it though lol. Tevez hasn't done anything note worthy to warrant sticking to a 2 sstriker set up just to include him in the team. Del Piero is one of the best ever players to wear a Juve jersey.........

 

[Salvatore]

Yes! We want to go back to a 4-3-3 we dont need lots of forwards for that formation. Gio sucks and Vuc is so inconsistent we would be better shipping them off. Tevez cant score he's not near clinical enough to warrant a starting spot every game and with Tevez we cant play 4-3-3 unless he plays out on the wing.

I agree with the sentiment that he didn't produce enough in the Champions League, but it doesn't really matter about the formation here, he's one of the better Juve players.

 

[Zacheryah]

I like that formation quite a lot, i have been crying out for Conte to literally try something like this. That team looks quite dangerous imo and couild really cause some harm to any team.

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Del Piero was worth it though lol. Tevez hasn't done anything note worthy to warrant sticking to a 2 sstriker set up just to include him in the team. Del Piero is one of the best ever players to wear a Juve jersey.........

then why expect the new guy to be as good ?

 

[Mark]

Mata would be great to have for that key pass to either Llorente or Tevez but how much would he cost and do we still deal with Chelsea after the Mutu saga?

 

[Vialli_92]

then why expect the new guy to be as good ?

If you expected him to be as good as Del Piero for 10 million euro then thats crazy. There is a reason he cost so little and it's because he is not any where near Del Piero's level. Del Piero is a legend/great of the game. Tevez is good not great.

 

[Delle Alpi]

Mata would be great to have for that key pass to either Llorente or Tevez but how much would he cost and do we still deal with Chelsea after the Mutu saga?

He would be a good addition, or somebody like Hernanes to play behind the strikers in a 4-3-1-2 formation

 

[Pirlo's Beard]

Yeah that's exactly what i've been saying

Tevez or even Llorente for that matter are not good enough for us to say 'Right, we MUST stick to a two striker system no matter what'

Tevez is obviously not Del Piero, and nobody is expecting them to be. But the point is, Tevez isn't on his level and we shouldn't feel the need to tactically limit ourselves to keep one CL flop happy.

 

[Xperd]

Mata would be great to have for that key pass to either Llorente or Tevez but how much would he cost and do we still deal with Chelsea after the Mutu saga?

35m minimum and this ignoring the wage part and he'll likely command a lot.
Plus there's much doubts on whether he'd be interested in italy move.

 

[Mark]

ciao ciao Mata then.

 

[LiquidPLP]

I see it as a better option than 4-3-3/4-2-3-1 with average wingers.

we only have pepe (will he ever return?) and vucinic who can play wings, while tevez can also play out of position but he said he prefers cf/ss.

neither of pepe (if?) and vucinic are close to world beaters so we'll need at least a couple more.

rw - so we sign berardi, are we going to have to wait for him to improve (if good enough for cl) or just expect him to peform straight away. if not spend 10-30m on a winger.

then we'll need a lw too, another 10-30m.

doesn't sound reasonable for now, unless you want to keep underperforming in cl for at least another 2 seasons. unless mr cricket decides another cash injection is necessary (which of course it isn't).

and this is exactly why i'm keeping on about going 4-3-1-2/4-3-2-1.

Its just 1 transfer. One cam, good in the combination, off the ball movement and short space. And if licht+asamoah are fullbacks, we can have one at a time moving up, and marchisio( holding midfield) to cover behind.
really, think about it

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Yes but verratti is a terrific playmaker, and excells at playmaker skills.

I'm not against 4312/4321 at all. I'm all for it but you want to improve our squad and make it work based on a CAM which we can't afford. Players that would actually work for us would be: Mata, Silva or Hamsik - all cost 40m or even more. How do we solve this?

 

[Mark]

Benvenuto Dia*****.

 

[Zacheryah]

I'm not against 4312/4321 at all. I'm all for it but you want to improve our squad and make it work based on a CAM which we can't afford. Players that would actually work for us would be: Mata, Silva or Hamsik - all cost 40m or even more. How do we solve this?

De Bruyne ?

hernanes (god i hate myself for admitting, but if the price is right...)

 

[Xperd]

Sell somebody and buy Hernanes.He has an expiring contract too.
The most ideal player for us maybe even in an economic sense.
Can play both Dlp and AM too.

 

[alexjuventino]

Juve obviously want to become better financially but if a player like Mata were to be presented to Juve then 40m or so would be a justifiable amount to spend on a player in his par. Given the team plays well in the Cl then the investment will be paid for by a successful cl run. However it is impossible to expect what will happen in the cl just like this season

 

[Vialli_92]

Yeah that's exactly what i've been saying

Tevez or even Llorente for that matter are not good enough for us to say 'Right, we MUST stick to a two striker system no matter what'

Tevez is obviously not Del Piero, and nobody is expecting them to be. But the point is, Tevez isn't on his level and we shouldn't feel the need to tactically limit ourselves to keep one CL flop happy.

Thank you very much, I have been impressed with a lot of ur posts and it wont let me give u any more rep until i spread it somewhere else.......

 

[alexjuventino]

De Bruyne ?

hernanes (god i hate myself for admitting, but if the price is right...)

I also wouldnt want to see him here but its just becoming more evident that we need a cam and a change of formations

 

[Vialli_92]

Sell somebody and buy Hernanes.He has an expiring contract too.
The most ideal player for us maybe even in an economic sense.
Can play both Dlp and AM too.

He is a fantastic player but i dont think we need any more central players unless we are convinced a 4-3-1-2 or a 4-3-2-1 is the way to go. We need that all important LB first and foremost imo.