Wishlist and General Juve winter mercato talk (2013-14) (11 Viewers)

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Bianconero81

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I would release Pirlo and sell Pogba in the Summer and work for this:

Buffon

Lichsteiner-Barzagli-Ogbonna/Bonucci-Chiellini

Vidal-Verratti-Nainggolan

Cuadrado-Llorente-Tevez

Subs - Leali, Caceres, Asamoah, Marchisio, Berardi, Giovinco, Isla, Ogbonna/Bonucci
:tup: Let's sell one of our prime assets and weaken the squad, while playing Tevez out of position. Good job Nick.

Fuck Verratti. People's obsession with him is nauseating. He is a good player, a decent prospect, but Pogba is on a different level.
 

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Vialli_92

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Mar 7, 2013
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People talking about buying this winger and this midfielder.

We need new defenders, we didn't keep one clean sheet in 6 CL matches, against the likes of Gala and Copenhagen.

Simply not good enough.
It's because our defence likes to play as midfielders at times but they are not midfielders so lose the ball to much. A change to a more attacking formation will see the defenders play the ball less and because we have that extra player further up the pitch our midfielders wont have to pass the ball backwards as much and will have more options to pass to in attack. The best form of defence is attack!
 

Bianconero81

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I just hope we don't panic and buy shitstains like Biabiany, or provincial type players like Diamanti and Cerci. Either invest in quality or focus on youth. Depth is good, but you also need quality, and I highly doubt those guys will add anything but versatility. Biabiany is a giant shitstain that will add absolutely nothing.
 

Xperd

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:tup: Let's sell one of our prime assets and weaken the squad, while playing Tevez out of position. Good job Nick.

$#@! Verratti. People's obsession with him is nauseating. He is a good player, a decent prospect, but Pogba is on a different level.
That clearly is some hyperbole right there.

Also people suggesting Vidal-Pogba-Asamoah midfield.It only looks good on paper and we'd struggle more than before with such a midfield setup.A playmaker is of perennial importance.
 

Bianconero81

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No. A playmaker isn't of perennial importance if we add width and versatility. The creativity can come from the forward line. We don't need to stick to 3-5-2 and have a regista. It's called being progressive and forward thinking. We need fast, dynamic players in Europe so we can actually look menacing and dangerous when going forward, particularly on the counter.

As for Pogba, it isn't hyperbole. He is an amazing talent, and superior in almost every aspect to that koala fucking vulture faced Jew nosed midget.
 

Xperd

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No. A playmaker isn't of perennial importance if we add width and versatility. The creativity can come from the forward line. We don't need to stick to 3-5-2 and have a regista. It's called being progressive and forward thinking. We need fast, dynamic players in Europe so we can actually look menacing and dangerous when going forward, particularly on the counter.

As for Pogba, it isn't hyperbole. He is an amazing talent, and superior in almost every aspect to that koala $#@!ing vulture faced Jew nosed midget.
I dont really know what you're speaking.Every top team has a playmaker whether be at AM or CM.Please tell me a team which is succeeding right now without having any real playmaker ?

Without a playmaker ,we'd just have to become like udinese and resort to pure counter attacking football.To be elite in Europe you basically need to be a multi-dimensional team.
 

LiquidPLP

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Jun 9, 2012
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No. A playmaker isn't of perennial importance if we add width and versatility. The creativity can come from the forward line. We don't need to stick to 3-5-2 and have a regista. It's called being progressive and forward thinking. We need fast, dynamic players in Europe so we can actually look menacing and dangerous when going forward, particularly on the counter.

As for Pogba, it isn't hyperbole. He is an amazing talent, and superior in almost every aspect to that koala $#@!ing vulture faced Jew nosed midget.
All is good and I agree but in current situation you can't improve the squad without money if you ask for quality players. We either bring back Berardi and some other young players or we'll have to sell someone. I'm sure PSG will come knocking to our door for Pogba. I agree we should keep him but I can't see how we're refusing +50m for him. Keep in mind the fact Conte will ask for reinforcements in the summer and rightfully so.

What we fans want is one thing another is the fact we could get let's say 20-25m + Verratti for Pogba if we play a hard ball there. If they want him so bad they could do it as they have too much money anyway. Conte gets a midfielder and cash for a new signing. Whether we like it or not it's a possible scenario considering our early CL crash out.
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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I dont really know what you're speaking.Every top team has a playmaker whether be at AM or CM.Please tell me a team which is succeeding right now without having any real playmaker ?

Without a playmaker ,we'd just have to become like udinese and resort to pure counter attacking football.To be elite in Europe you basically need to be a multi-dimensional team.
:tup:
 

Xperd

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Madrid-Alonso
Dortmund-Gundogan and Sahin
Bayern-Kroos,Thiago ,sometimes even Goetze
PSG-Verratti,Pastore(although he is shat),Ibra as the faux playmaker
City-Silva
Chelsea-Oscar/Mata
Arsenal-Oezil,Wilshere
Atletico Madrid-Koke
Barca-Xavi,Iniesta.

Just to name a few.
 

ZoSo

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Jul 11, 2011
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No. A playmaker isn't of perennial importance if we add width and versatility. The creativity can come from the forward line. We don't need to stick to 3-5-2 and have a regista. It's called being progressive and forward thinking. We need fast, dynamic players in Europe so we can actually look menacing and dangerous when going forward, particularly on the counter.

As for Pogba, it isn't hyperbole. He is an amazing talent, and superior in almost every aspect to that koala fucking vulture faced Jew nosed midget.
:rofl:

but definitely Pogba is about 500x better than koala
 

Albo

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Apr 13, 2009
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I would release Pirlo and sell Pogba in the Summer and work for this:

Buffon

Lichsteiner-Barzagli-Ogbonna/Bonucci-Chiellini

Vidal-Verratti-Nainggolan

Cuadrado-Llorente-Tevez

Subs - Leali, Caceres, Asamoah, Marchisio, Berardi, Giovinco, Isla, Ogbonna/Bonucci
:inter:
 

ZoSo

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This is again a slow and narrow formation. No chance to sign those Spaniards and without them it won't work.
I see it as a better option than 4-3-3/4-2-3-1 with average wingers.

we only have pepe (will he ever return?) and vucinic who can play wings, while tevez can also play out of position but he said he prefers cf/ss.

neither of pepe (if?) and vucinic are close to world beaters so we'll need at least a couple more.

rw - so we sign berardi, are we going to have to wait for him to improve (if good enough for cl) or just expect him to peform straight away. if not spend 10-30m on a winger.

then we'll need a lw too, another 10-30m.

doesn't sound reasonable for now, unless you want to keep underperforming in cl for at least another 2 seasons. unless mr cricket decides another cash injection is necessary (which of course it isn't).
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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I would release Pirlo and sell Pogba in the Summer and work for this:

Buffon

Lichsteiner-Barzagli-Ogbonna/Bonucci-Chiellini

Vidal-Verratti-Nainggolan

Cuadrado-Llorente-Tevez

Subs - Leali, Caceres, Asamoah, Marchisio, Berardi, Giovinco, Isla, Ogbonna/Bonucci
formation number 551487 that would be inferior to the current one
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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I see it as a better option than 4-3-3/4-2-3-1 with average wingers.

we only have pepe (will he ever return?) and vucinic who can play wings, while tevez can also play out of position but he said he prefers cf/ss.

neither of pepe (if?) and vucinic are close to world beaters so we'll need at least a couple more.

rw - so we sign berardi, are we going to have to wait for him to improve (if good enough for cl) or just expect him to peform straight away. if not spend 10-30m on a winger.

then we'll need a lw too, another 10-30m.

doesn't sound reasonable for now, unless you want to keep underperforming in cl for at least another 2 seasons.
and this is exactly why i'm keeping on about going 4-3-1-2/4-3-2-1.

Its just 1 transfer. One cam, good in the combination, off the ball movement and short space. And if licht+asamoah are fullbacks, we can have one at a time moving up, and marchisio( holding midfield) to cover behind.
really, think about it

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he isn't as talented in so many things like pogba and isn't a physical beast.
Yes but verratti is a terrific playmaker, and excells at playmaker skills.
 

Joga Bonito

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Jul 28, 2010
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That clearly is some hyperbole right there.

Also people suggesting Vidal-Pogba-Asamoah midfield.It only looks good on paper and we'd struggle more than before with such a midfield setup.A playmaker is of perennial importance.
Agreed! That midfield would only work in a milan-like 4312 system and would require a good am and lb. Veratti would be good, but i would rather keep Pogba a get a am and lb. But the only realistic target for that, would be Diamanti/Menez/Pastore and Kolarov/Criscito/Murru
 
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