Wishlist and General Juve winter mercato talk (2013-14) (8 Viewers)

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Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
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In:

Sanchez (26-30m)
Griezmann (20-22m)
Criscito (5m+vucinic)
Berardi (buy half)


Out:

Vucinic (from criscito deal)
Isla (5m)
Motta (released)
Ziegler (2m)
Martinez (released)


SQUAD:

4-3-3

Buffon/Storari

Litchsteiner/Caceres-----Barzagli/Bonucci-----Chiellini/Ogbonna-----Criscito/Pelu,DC

Vidal-----Pirlo/Asamoah-----Pogba/Marchisio

Sanchez/Berardi-----Llorente/Tevez/Quags-----Griezmann/Giovinco​

4-2-4

Buffon/Storari

Litchsteiner/Caceres-----Barzagli/Bonucci-----Chiellini/Ogbonna-----Criscito/Pelu,DC

Vidal/Asamoah-----Pogba/Marchisio

Sanchez/Berardi-----Llorente-----Tevez/Quags-----Griezmann/Giovinco​
Might be the biggest rakibomb to date, Vucinic + MONEY for Criscito :lol2:
 

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Nostradamus

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Dec 12, 2012
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Seems like a win-win situation for us, although I'm sure down the line there will be plenty of moaning (in hindsight, of course) when 'player X' who couldn't get in our team is sold to them for €5m-€10m and goes on to star in the Bundesliga.
Totally agree, but the financial situation of them is the opposite of rosy so u can forget the numbers u r using. They ll want to loan players trying to get them with option to buy (everything above 5m sounds fantasy)..sometimes Juve ll allow an option and sometimes they wont. Bremen loaned Petersen from Bayern without option and bought him after 1 season for around 3m (Bayern being generous). The actual team of Bremen is a total mess and it could be the perfect club for some Juve players to gain valuable playing time and experience. Bremen is a wonderful place for young players, as the media attention and pressure is relatively low and the club is known to be calmed and stable and mostly being patient with their players. If a loaned player totally convincing, then the chance is high, that some other German club with better financial status ll try to get him (de Bruyne).
 

LiquidPLP

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Jun 9, 2012
12,237
Even more of a shame if it does happen, $#@! player.
Still better than Diamanti and Biabiany both combined. Conte would take the best out of Nani just like he did with Barzagli, Bonucci, Tevez and so on.

In our current financial situation I don't think we can do any better. If he was available for a price under 20m I'd go for him. Offload not needed players and go for him.
 

Pirlo's Beard

Junkie Joe Joyce
Oct 2, 2013
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Think my old Dog was better than Biabiany tbf. Wouldn't class it as an achievement. I mean Nani obviously has a lot of talent. But he's also pretty damn inconsistent and when he's not having a 'good' day he's utter shit.

Conte has great man management so I guess it would be worth a gamble if it was at a low price. I still don't rate him though.
 

Pirlo's Beard

Junkie Joe Joyce
Oct 2, 2013
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He's scored more goals against Chelsea than he has in his own league apparantly lol

I was watching UCL highlights and he looked the real deal. But his numbers are pretty bad despite playing for what I imagine is the best team in a bad league.
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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What we need is a central attacking playmaker, that is good at combining with skillfull players, so he will work well with tevez, and not against, but at the same times does his team duty.

Many with right to speak, have told that tevez-llorente has simularities with del piero - trezeguet.

Del Piero, also dropped off deep, like tevez, to help buildup. Juventus played many times with wide players during his career, but at its early peak, he had zidane behind him wich worked quite well.

For me this is the same case with tevez. he'd do mighty good with a central player behind him, that he can combine with, that can coexist in the room behind llorente. This however requires supreme intelligence.

For example, Kaka, even in this stage of decay, would be unbelievably good.


The problem however, is that the only player i can think off, that would benefit juve more then a "one year older pirlo", would be Mata.

i'm afraid we cannot afford him. but there is no pirlo replacement we can afford
Verratti and gundo are natural replacements, but out of our league
As for CAM, a player that truely makes an impact like our maestro, but is intelligent enough to co-exist with tevez ?
Ozil, Gotze and mata

For me this situation is clear

Buffon
Lichtsteiner - Barzagli - Chiellini - Asamoah

Vidal - Marchisio - Pogba

Mata

Llorente - Tevez​

Marchisio allows vidal and pogba to make many offensive runs, whist mata and tevez make most of the creativity. Our fullbacks are mostly for defense and organisation, and putting pressure.
This formation allows Pogba to drift Our of the center to the left or right side, where he can make those impressibe lobbed passes/early crosses to llorente.

All in all this is an impressively balanced team, that allows vidal and pogba to play an aggressive game whilst the also technically good marchisio can govern the midfield. Tevez should be moving around llorente, and combining with mata, providing the creativity

I know Mata is impossible, but this is a wishlist, the press are making up stories about him comming here, so i tought it was appropriate to share my impossible idea.
 

napoleonic

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Sep 7, 2010
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What we need is a central attacking playmaker, that is good at combining with skillfull players, so he will work well with tevez, and not against, but at the same times does his team duty.

Many with right to speak, have told that tevez-llorente has simularities with del piero - trezeguet.

Del Piero, also dropped off deep, like tevez, to help buildup. Juventus played many times with wide players during his career, but at its early peak, he had zidane behind him wich worked quite well.

For me this is the same case with tevez. he'd do mighty good with a central player behind him, that he can combine with, that can coexist in the room behind llorente. This however requires supreme intelligence.

For example, Kaka, even in this stage of decay, would be unbelievably good.


The problem however, is that the only player i can think off, that would benefit juve more then a "one year older pirlo", would be Mata.

i'm afraid we cannot afford him. but there is no pirlo replacement we can afford
Verratti and gundo are natural replacements, but out of our league
As for CAM, a player that truely makes an impact like our maestro, but is intelligent enough to co-exist with tevez ?
Ozil, Gotze and mata

For me this situation is clear

Buffon
Lichtsteiner - Barzagli - Chiellini - Asamoah

Vidal - Marchisio - Pogba

Mata

Llorente - Tevez​

Marchisio allows vidal and pogba to make many offensive runs, whist mata and tevez make most of the creativity. Our fullbacks are mostly for defense and organisation, and putting pressure.
This formation allows Pogba to drift Our of the center to the left or right side, where he can make those impressibe lobbed passes/early crosses to llorente.

All in all this is an impressively balanced team, that allows vidal and pogba to play an aggressive game whilst the also technically good marchisio can govern the midfield. Tevez should be moving around llorente, and combining with mata, providing the creativity

I know Mata is impossible, but this is a wishlist, the press are making up stories about him comming here, so i tought it was appropriate to share my impossible idea.
surprised you don't consider 3-4-1-2 :shifty: simply change pirlo to mata/ozil/goetze and this team will be completely more lethal.

even rooney as amc may probably work wonders with our 3-4-1-2.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
surprised you don't consider 3-4-1-2 :shifty: simply change pirlo to mata/ozil/goetze and this team will be completely more lethal.

even rooney as amc may probably work wonders with our 3-4-1-2.
Rooney in an italian team requires intelligence. Nasa reported yesterday that no intelligent lifeform has been found on him.

3-4-1-2 is a lovely formation for domminating football if you got the right players for it, but is unbalanced and absolutely isnt taking the best from our players.

I recon, you simply put pogba and vidal central.

Good, basically in front of them are 3 attackers of wich none can efficiently make interceptions, let alone close down channels.
To their sides ar e 2 wingbacks, that can easely be occupied by double wings, or just fullbacks.

So basically, they dont got support. Means they cant press forward and be aggressive, or make offensive runs, that would cause a big gab, wich couldnt be solved even with the cam falling back cause its not a midfielder and certainly not a holding one. Basically, it would render vidal and pogba's offensive abilities useless since they cannot use them .


Looking at the 4-3-1-2 its the easy counter.

The midfield battle is so very easely won here. Marchisio in the team, allows vidal and pogba to be very aggressive and make attacking runs.

Coupled with tevez and a cam, they can pretty much kill the living shit out of the 3412 whilst that 3412 has 2 cm's that have to play deep, or leave massive gaps
 
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