Wishlist and General Juve winter mercato talk (2013-14) (25 Viewers)

[donpiero]

JUVE, IPOTESI BERARDI SUBITO SE PARTE VUCINIC - La possibile cessione di Vucinic all'Inter apre altri scenari di mercato per la Juventus. Secondo Sportmediaset se il montenegrino venisse ceduto all'Inter, Marotta avrebbe pensato di anticipare di sei mesi l'arrivo di Domenico Berardi ('94) dal Sassuolo. Il calciatore, in comproprietà tra bianconeri e neroverdi, autore di 12 reti in 16 partite, potrebbe già in questi giorni appodare alla corte di Conte per 7-8 milioni (i soldi della cessione di Vucinic) oppure con le definitive cessioni di Zaza e Marrone al club emiliano. Resta da verificare la disponibilità del calciatore che in bianconero non partirebbe titolare mentre con Di Francesco è il punto fermo della squadra e potrebbe così continuare a mettersi in mostra, sognando una convocazione per il mondiale.

Berrardi to arrive now to replace Mirko?
I doubt it,but that's the rumor...that we'll buy for 7-8M his second half or Zaza's+Marrone's second halfs.

Alriiiiight now that's news!
I'd say if Floccari goes there, there would be a chance

 

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[Roman]

If it's not BS,I think it might be a good idea actually to give Berrardi the run already now,and start building/try new formation.

 

[Pirlo's Beard]

The problem is, say we go to 4-3-3

We're relying on a 19 year old to carry us in a new formation, and his only back up right now is Pepe.


He'll probably unfortunately play more as a SS in a 3-5-2. Unless we get a fucking move on, and start looking at another Winger and a left back.

 

[Orgut]

I think Conte really want to use the 4-3-3 next season or at least to us it more if reports are to be believed
Nani is a winger Berrardi and Munain are all players who probably best fit to a 4-3-3 formation

 

[Pirlo's Beard]

I think Nani is a no-go. He's too injury prone and I imagine that's why we haven't given the go-ahead for this deal. Not to mention he's inconsistent.

An inconsistent player who's never fit enough to get back to his best level is a nightmare. I keep forgetting how injury prone he is. Not to mention, we can't switch to a 4-3-3 when our new key right winger is only fit enough to make 20 apps a season.

 

[Roman]

I think Conte really want to use the 4-3-3 next season or at least to us it more if reports are to be believed
Nani is a winger Berrardi and Munain are all players who probably best fit to a 4-3-3 formation

We never really were linked to Muniain...but yeah i also think Conte would like to go for 4-3-3.
Btw,he did say after Lazio match,that Pirlo-Pogba-Marchio-Vidal are players who play better in a 3 man midfield,don't know if it was meant to the fact we had disorder being down a man so the 3 were not really playing their zones,or actually he would have prefered playing 3 and not 5 man midfield.

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I think Nani is a no-go. He's too injury prone and I imagine that's why we haven't given the go-ahead for this deal. Not to mention he's inconsistent.

An inconsistent player who's never fit enough to get back to his best level is a nightmare. I keep forgetting how injury prone he is. Not to mention, we can't switch to a 4-3-3 when our new key right winger is only fit enough to make 20 apps a season.

I think Nani is a big talent and showed it for a few seasons in Man.utd,but i agree,he is a risky move because of his Injuries and form.

 

[Hust]

How anyone can rate Nani over Berardi is beyond me. Oh I forgot.. -people don't believe in youth around here

@Hustini

 

[digitalbash]

Why is everyone under the impression that conte wants to use a 4-3-3? Is it because we used 4-3-3 against Real Madrid? Or is it because we are rumoured to be looking for a winger? Or is it because Conte says Pepe is the only winger we have?

 

[Boksic]

I don't think Conte just wants to play 4-3-3 or just wants 3-5-2

I think he wants the option to play either like his first season here

 

[GarfielD]

I have this werid feeling that the swap Guarin - Mirko will happen by friday.

 

[michel]

A bit of fantamercato from my side. I know it's never going to happen, but anyways.

Out:
-Giovinco 12 million, Vučinić 10 million, Qua 8 million, Peluso 4 million, PDC 1 million, Motta 1 million, Isla 5 million, Ziegler 1 million, Rossi 3 million, Sorensen 3-4 million, Marrone 4 million, maybe some other co-owned players to gather another 3-5 million), so with the sales we can get around 55 million + the 25 million of money reserved for transfers. So we have around 80 million.

In: Rodriguez 15-18 million, co-own perin and baselli max. 12 million, Cuadrado 28 million, bring back Berardi, Mandžukić 23-25 million, Murru for free, Menez* free.

All numbers are in €. I would play 4-3-3

GK: Buffon, Storari, Rubinho
RB: Lichtsteiner, Caceres
CB: Barzagli, Chiellini, Bonucci, Ogbonna
LB: Rodriguez, Murru
CM: Pogba, Vidal, Pirlo, Marchisio, Asamoah
RW: Cuadrado, Berardi, Pepe- covering both wings
ST: Llorente, Mandzukic, Zaza or somebody else
LW: Tevez, Menez or Lamela if he would perform really poor till the end of this season, and Tottenham would loan him with the obligation buy at the end of the season.

At the end of the season 2014/15, sell Pirlo and Tevez( if we would get Lamela and he would actually be good), and bring Muniain and Gundogan for free, and co-own Vrsaljko.

Like I said at the beginning, this is never going to happen, because we are never going to be able to sale so many players, and spend so much in one window.

 

[GarfielD]

A bit of fantamercato from my side. I know it's never going to happen, but anyways.

Out:
-Giovinco 12 million, Vučinić 10 million, Qua 8 million, Peluso 4 million, PDC 1 million, Motta 1 million, Isla 5 million, Ziegler 1 million, Rossi 3 million, Sorensen 3-4 million, Marrone 4 million, maybe some other co-owned players to gather another 3-5 million), so with the sales we can get around 55 million + the 25 million of money reserved for transfers. So we have around 80 million.

In: Rodriguez 15-18 million, co-own perin and baselli max. 12 million, Cuadrado 28 million, bring back Berardi, Mandžukić 23-25 million, Murru for free, Menez* free.

All numbers are in €. I would play 4-3-3

GK: Buffon, Storari, Rubinho
RB: Lichtsteiner, Caceres
CB: Barzagli, Chiellini, Bonucci, Ogbonna
LB: Rodriguez, Murru
CM: Pogba, Vidal, Pirlo, Marchisio, Asamoah
RW: Cuadrado, Berardi, Pepe- covering both wings
ST: Llorente, Mandzukic, Zaza or somebody else
LW: Tevez, Menez or Lamela if he would perform really poor till the end of this season, and Tottenham would loan him with the obligation buy at the end of the season.

At the end of the season 2014/15, sell Pirlo and Tevez( if we would get Lamela and he would actually be good), and bring Muniain and Gundogan for free, and co-own Vrsaljko.

Like I said at the beginning, this is never going to happen, because we are never going to be able to sale so many players, and spend so much in one window.

Seroiusly? You would give 28m for Cuadrado? And also, bringing back (signing 100% of his contract) Berardi would cost us at least 7m.

 

[michel]

Fiorentina would never gave their half of the cuadrado for less than 15 million. Maybe we could still co-own Berardi till the end of the season 14/15, and then buy his full contract- maybe I am mistaken.

 

[GarfielD]

Fiorentina would never gave their half of the cuadrado for less than 15 million. Maybe we could still co-own Berardi till the end of the season 14/15, and then buy his full contract- maybe I am mistaken.

I know they wouldnt. My point is that 28m is too much for him and I'll never give so much money for him.

 

[Ocelot]

Bringing Berardi back now would just be stupid. Recalling him in the summer might work, depending on Sassuolos relegation, but now is hardly the time for him to come to Juve. He needs time to settle in, which he has plenty in the summer.

Also, I don't really want to give up on Marrone and Zaza just yet.

 

[Alessandro]

The problem is, say we go to 4-3-3
We're relying on a 19 year old to carry us in a new formation, and his only back up right now is Pepe.
He'll probably unfortunately play more as a SS in a 3-5-2. Unless we get a $#@!ing move on, and start looking at another Winger and a left back.

We need one world class winger capable of playing on both wings, but specialized on left-wing.
Also Tevez will play on any attacking position.
So we'll have 4* players (Tevez, Llorente, Winger, Berardi) for 3 positions and any 3 of them can play together.

*also we'll have some reserves, Gio and/or Quag for example, maybe Pepe, and we are packed.

 

[TheLaz]

A bit of fantamercato from my side. I know it's never going to happen, but anyways.

Out:
-Giovinco 12 million, Vučinić 10 million, Qua 8 million, Peluso 4 million, PDC 1 million, Motta 1 million, Isla 5 million, Ziegler 1 million, Rossi 3 million, Sorensen 3-4 million, Marrone 4 million, maybe some other co-owned players to gather another 3-5 million), so with the sales we can get around 55 million + the 25 million of money reserved for transfers. So we have around 80 million.

In: Rodriguez 15-18 million, co-own perin and baselli max. 12 million, Cuadrado 28 million, bring back Berardi, Mandžukić 23-25 million, Murru for free, Menez* free.

All numbers are in €. I would play 4-3-3

GK: Buffon, Storari, Rubinho
RB: Lichtsteiner, Caceres
CB: Barzagli, Chiellini, Bonucci, Ogbonna
LB: Rodriguez, Murru
CM: Pogba, Vidal, Pirlo, Marchisio, Asamoah
RW: Cuadrado, Berardi, Pepe- covering both wings
ST: Llorente, Mandzukic, Zaza or somebody else
LW: Tevez, Menez or Lamela if he would perform really poor till the end of this season, and Tottenham would loan him with the obligation buy at the end of the season.

At the end of the season 2014/15, sell Pirlo and Tevez( if we would get Lamela and he would actually be good), and bring Muniain and Gundogan for free, and co-own Vrsaljko.

Like I said at the beginning, this is never going to happen, because we are never going to be able to sale so many players, and spend so much in one window.

Way to overspend on Mandzukic and Cuadrado. Notice Marottas transfer record is still the transfer of Vucinic for ~18m €!

I agree most of the players here should be sold but letting Isla go for 5m € isn't a smart move either. He's got many years left is versatile and hard working, accepting the bench. Shouldn't be sold until he finds form.
Muniain and Gundogan will never come free. Bilbao is done letting players go free and BvB knows when to cash in.

 

[Pirlo's Beard]

Bringing Berardi back now would just be stupid. Recalling him in the summer might work, depending on Sassuolos relegation, but now is hardly the time for him to come to Juve. He needs time to settle in, which he has plenty in the summer.

Also, I don't really want to give up on Marrone and Zaza just yet.

Marrone I agree. At the least he's a reliable bench player.

Zaza however, i've seen a fair bit of him now. And i'm yet to really see anything in him that I haven't seen in countless other young strikers. He's probably good enough to make a career out of moving between average Serie A sides in the future.

 

[rakib567]

berardi back
lamela (vucinic plus cash)
menez free
di maria 25 million (he would rather go to juve where he has tevez to go to a crappy Monaco team where they have 5000 fans)
evra free
murru free (loan him to get experience then he can join juve when he is 22,23 which by then evrea would be finished and his contract would have exipired)


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Buffon

Litch/cace---Barzagli/bon---Chielli/ogb---Evra/pel

Vidal---Pirlo/march---Pogba/asa

Dimaria/berardi---Llorente/quags---Tevez/lamela​

(berardi,lamela,dimaria and tevez would have free roles)


or 4231

Buffon

Litch/cace---Barzagli/bon---Chielli/ogb---Evra/pel

Vidal/march---Pogba/asa

Dimaria---Tevez--- Lamela/berardi

Llorente/quags​

 

[Spath]

Di Maria's such an over-rated player...