Wishlist and General Juve winter mercato talk (2013-14) (9 Viewers)

[alexjuventino]

If it is so then it's a no brainier for me. I've mentioned Cuadrado's name a couple of times last summer but not many like the idea. IMO he's exactly what Conte needs - a very fast winger with great dribbling skills who tracks back a lot and isn't a defensive liability. He scores and gets assists quite regularly. He'd be perfect for RWB in 352, RWF in 433 and RM in 4231.

Get rid of Isla, probably include him in the deal with Udinese and throw some money at them. They'll love it and the guy is ours. I don't think we'll find anyone better at this point. This man would suit Conte's Juve like a glove.

Look he is not perfect for rwb look at the errors he created aganist us plus Licht is our rwb

 

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[LiquidPLP]

Look he is not perfect for rwb look at the errors he created aganist us plus Licht is our rwb

And in all honesty he should be he's obviously much better at defending.

Right Cuadrado is still something that we need in terms of 433 imo.

I never heard of that Alessandrini guy. I don't follow French league at all so no surprise but could he play RWF like Conte requires to?

 

[alexjuventino]

And in all honesty he should be he's obviously much better at defending.

Right Cuadrado is still something that we need in terms of 433 imo.

I never heard of that Alessandrini guy. I don't follow French league at all so no surprise but could he play RWF like Conte requires to?

cuadrado would be fine as a winger

 

[Mark]

What do you guys think of Stocker? Not good enough?

 

[Zacheryah]

I think the key difference between us on the 4-2-3-1 system you are suggesting, is that I don't see any natural spot for Tevez. I doesn't fit my ideal for either centre forward or trequartista and you limit his effectiveness if you play him wide.

Now I'm not going to suggest Juve should play 4-2-3-1 with Tevez either at centre forward or trequartista if everything else fell into place for it, but you'd need the other positons to be filled by players who really suit playing with him.

Hamsik is the guy jumping to mind as probably my ideal trequartista in a 4-2-3-1. There are probably others I'd take ahead of him, but they aren't coming to mind just now. He's tremendously productive in attack, but his being a midfielder gives you a bit more tactical flexibility.

Not sure. He's not the classic trequartista, but i'd play tevez is some sort of free role, where he has defensive duties, but can roam around when in possession.

I think tevez works best with explosive , technical players. Like the classic argentine game. From near standstill to full burst suddenly.

I VERY much liked the classic argentine game. it fits well within the italian game in my opinion

Cuadrado is something of a defensive liability.

However, he's good enough going forward you may be willing to accept that.

Still, I'd be signing him as a winger rather than a wing back.

Even if given the freedom to go forward as a wing back, you can't give him the freedom to drift around and find himself space in the way that would make him most effective.

But would you take him as a wide midfielder in a 4231 with backed up by lichtsteiner ?

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cuadrado would be fine as a winger

I'd love him as a winger tbh. Defensively, we basically have 2 fullbacks, and when we are into formation, it really becomes a big obstacle to get trough.

In possession, so much power.

 

[Red]

What do you guys think of Stocker? Not good enough?

I've really liked the general set up of Basel whenever I've seen them in recent years, but with them being a counter-attacking team, I'd be careful about signing someone who has looked good on the counter attack and then signs for Juve and is never given the chance to counter attack.

Can't remember what Stocker is like.

 

[Vlad]

Cuadrado as RW would be pure sex. Why haven't we snapped him while he was on loan at Lecce? You could have seen tremendous potential back then. The way he toyed with our back line...

 

[alexjuventino]

I havent seen Stocker at all

 

[Red]

Not sure. He's not the classic trequartista, but i'd play tevez is some sort of free role, where he has defensive duties, but can roam around when in possession.

I think tevez works best with explosive , technical players. Like the classic argentine game. From near standstill to full burst suddenly.

My issue is that Tevez, as much as he is a hard-working forward, he is still a forward and it pushes the system towards being a 4-4-2.

4-4-2 nowadays tends to lead to issues of being outnumbered in midfield, so if Tevez was trequartista - I'd then be looking for one of the wide players to be someone who'd make a big contribution defensively to balance things out. And the contribution couldn't just be tracking back - they'd need to be able to tuck in and really support the midfield.

Basically, I'd want Nedved.

Go and find the new Nedved and you can have Tevez at trequartista.

But would you take him as a wide midfielder in a 4231 with backed up by lichtsteiner ?

Absolutely.

 

[Nzoric]

Find the new Nedved and just take Tevez out and play with 10men.

 

[Zacheryah]

My issue is that Tevez, as much as he is a hard-working forward, he is still a forward and it pushes the system towards being a 4-4-2.

4-4-2 nowadays tends to lead to issues of being outnumbered in midfield, so if Tevez was trequartista - I'd then be looking for one of the wide players to be someone who'd make a big contribution defensively to balance things out. And the contribution couldn't just be tracking back - they'd need to be able to tuck in and really support the midfield.

Basically, I'd want Nedved.

Go and find the new Nedved and you can have Tevez at trequartista.



Absolutely.

Basically what you are saying, is that we need two cuadrado's to balance out tevez :tongue:

Also, notice on big games,tevez drops VERY deep. Much deeper then del piero did

 

[Vlad]

Basically what you are saying, is that we need two cuadrado's to balance out tevez :tongue:

Also, notice on big games,tevez drops VERY deep. Much deeper then del piero did

Depends which DP you're talking about. If it's DP from the last few years then yes, Tevez definitely drops deeper. Before that I don't think so. DP liked to play deep and move into channels. And he was much more creative than Tevez.

 

[Joe]

If we go for a 4-3-3

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Lavezzi-llorente-tevez

Honestly I dont like that for two reasons we would have no creativity other than tevez and we would have one wide player and 2 cfs forcing our fullback to act as a wingback howver with a 4-2-3-1

Buffon
Licht-barz-chiell-caceres
Vidal-pogba
Menez-tevez-lavezzi
Llorente

With this formation tou hve creativity from tevez ans the wingers

If I were you, I'd just get Lavezzi out of my head right now.

Menez is realistic though.

 

[alexjuventino]

If I were you, I'd just get Lavezzi out of my head right now.

Menez is realistic though.

Lol it is just an example. I would love him here though

 

[Red]

Basically what you are saying, is that we need two cuadrado's to balance out tevez :tongue:

Nah, because he's still very much a wide player.

I'd want one of the wide players to be more of a midfielder type who could tuck in and really strengthen the midfield.

Also, notice on big games,tevez drops VERY deep. Much deeper then del piero did

He does and there's no doubting he works hard and does help to harrass the opposition's deepest midfielder.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Has Menez got better since he moved to PSG? Cus I didn't really like Roma Menez.

 

[Lion]

i wish we had a orward line of tevez-cavani

 

[Zacheryah]

aguero - tevez you mean

 

[Lion]

no i meant cavani

 

[Zacheryah]

see, you say it wrong again