Wishlist and General Juve winter mercato talk (2013-14) (5 Viewers)
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A better club with a much bigger chance. Really? It is debatable, but most definitely not as obvious as you make it out to be.
On paper, we are arguably a better team. As for chances of winning the CL, they are in a tough group, and might not even make it past the group stage. Beyond that, there are still teams like Bayern, Madrid, and Barca who would probably be strongly favored across two legs against Dortmund.
On paper, we are arguably a better team. As for chances of winning the CL, they are in a tough group, and might not even make it past the group stage. Beyond that, there are still teams like Bayern, Madrid, and Barca who would probably be strongly favored across two legs against Dortmund.
We have a ton of work to do to be among the elite again as does the whole league.
We are right now a top team but from a fodder league.Its difficult to attract top players without showing psg esque money.
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Juve would hold the edge in that case but bvb are still stacked with talent everywhere else tho
Dunno why ppl are still underestimating them,they do look the better overall team on paper as of now but thats a moot argument and it doesnt hold any weight when 2 sides take the pitch.
We are right now a top team but from a fodder league.Its difficult to attract top players without showing psg esque money.
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Juve would hold the edge in that case but bvb are still stacked with talent everywhere else tho
Dunno why ppl are still underestimating them,they do look the better overall team on paper as of now but thats a moot argument and it doesnt hold any weight when 2 sides take the pitch.
our squad is stronger
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he could've gone to monaco, anzhi and maybe 1 or 2 other teams as well. he chose us because we showed interest in him from the beginning to be a key part of an important team, simple as that. if you don't believe me go and watch his first press conference
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Man City reject who wanted a change of scenary.Very relevant argument 
Besides,think of it this way,juve and milan were the only 2 sides interested in him.
Besides,think of it this way,juve and milan were the only 2 sides interested in him.
Yeah,Monaco and Anzhi are clearly better teams and have more appeal than us.
Dunno why it is so hard understand.We cant attract the present hot talents in the market.
Lewandowski is a hot commodity presently and he would more likely prefer teams and leagues with bigger appeal over us.
Sorry my friend.The least we can do currently is make a deep cl run to convince top players that we can win cl but atm it doesnt seem too likely.
Dunno why it is so hard understand.We cant attract the present hot talents in the market.
Lewandowski is a hot commodity presently and he would more likely prefer teams and leagues with bigger appeal over us.
Sorry my friend.The least we can do currently is make a deep cl run to convince top players that we can win cl but atm it doesnt seem too likely.
I'd love to have Carlos alberto, Lizarazu, Zambrotta, Maicon, Roberto Carlos, Cafu,... as the fullback.
Thing is, such players barely exist anymore. Very very few fullbacks actually combine attack and defence well. Usually is eighter one of them.
We are juventus. Our first goal is a massive organisation, then comes the rest. For my 4-2-3-1 The prime goal of the fullbacks is fucking defensive stability and backing up the workhorse wingers.
Sure, 2012/2013 bayern did that aswel, but Lahm and Alaba are exceptional players who are offcourse far out of reach for us. Ogbonna, can offer the same defensive strenght.
Go ahead, disagree. Then see how Di Maria didnt got past him once. I'd say thats pretty good. And Di Maria had a fullback covering him.
Every time he played this season, he comfortably pushed his line to the midfield, and backed asamoah up beeing a central defender. Sure, he's limited, i agree. We wont see that many overlaps. But it would allow the left workhorse winger to try fancy stuff, ogbonna would just need to back him up, intercepting/fouling if the WHW loses the ball, or be a passing option. With his passing range, ogbonna can quickly play a direct pass to eighter tevez, llorente, the cm's, or the other flank.
And thats about it. he doesnt need to be marauding like Lahm.
Oh yes, absolutely.
The problem is his price is even higher, thus more unrealistic.
agreed
B81, how many times does someone have to explain you that we make marquee signings in THE SUMMER because they have big impact on the budget ?
We didnt had 20 mil extra during the summer, and we definatly dont have 20 mil now. We will have +20 mil during the next summer
If we buy in januari, its a panic emergency purchase.
How many times do i have to repeat this before it sinks in your skull ?
Thing is, such players barely exist anymore. Very very few fullbacks actually combine attack and defence well. Usually is eighter one of them.
We are juventus. Our first goal is a massive organisation, then comes the rest. For my 4-2-3-1 The prime goal of the fullbacks is fucking defensive stability and backing up the workhorse wingers.
Sure, 2012/2013 bayern did that aswel, but Lahm and Alaba are exceptional players who are offcourse far out of reach for us. Ogbonna, can offer the same defensive strenght.
Go ahead, disagree. Then see how Di Maria didnt got past him once. I'd say thats pretty good. And Di Maria had a fullback covering him.
Every time he played this season, he comfortably pushed his line to the midfield, and backed asamoah up beeing a central defender. Sure, he's limited, i agree. We wont see that many overlaps. But it would allow the left workhorse winger to try fancy stuff, ogbonna would just need to back him up, intercepting/fouling if the WHW loses the ball, or be a passing option. With his passing range, ogbonna can quickly play a direct pass to eighter tevez, llorente, the cm's, or the other flank.
And thats about it. he doesnt need to be marauding like Lahm.
Oh yes, absolutely.
The problem is his price is even higher, thus more unrealistic.
agreed
B81, how many times does someone have to explain you that we make marquee signings in THE SUMMER because they have big impact on the budget ?
We didnt had 20 mil extra during the summer, and we definatly dont have 20 mil now. We will have +20 mil during the next summer
If we buy in januari, its a panic emergency purchase.
How many times do i have to repeat this before it sinks in your skull ?
Man City reject who wanted a change of scenary.Very relevant argument
Besides,think of it this way,juve and milan were the only 2 sides interested in him.
Besides,think of it this way,juve and milan were the only 2 sides interested in him.
Meh, Coentrao is a nice option for a formation playing with offensive fullbacks, such as a 4-3-1-2, or a narrow 4-3-3. Thing is, Madrid will price him far to expensive for what he has done the past 2 seasons.
Furthermore, there will allways be an epl team paying sick wages. forget about him
Hernanes ? Plays at Tevez position. And dont tell me "but hernanes behind llorente-tevez" because tevez his entire game is about drifting deep and pressing everywere, and hernanes would quite frankly just run in his way
He's also relatively old. its not like he's a future replacement.
Also, i'm sure some english team is willing to offer lewandowski a sick wage.
And before you say it, yeah, having llorente and lewandowski competing for 1 position would be quite sexy. Both have their strenghts. Beeing able to field one in function of the formation you wanna play against a certain opponent is quite nice.
But we cant afford to have one of them on the bench
And they cant co-exist in the same formation eighter
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Agreed. Bit sad we dont have that upper hand on the mediocre shit teams in the serie a anymore.
Would love to see us muscle in Cuadrado and that guy who's name starts with an I
Furthermore, there will allways be an epl team paying sick wages. forget about him
Hernanes ? Plays at Tevez position. And dont tell me "but hernanes behind llorente-tevez" because tevez his entire game is about drifting deep and pressing everywere, and hernanes would quite frankly just run in his way
He's also relatively old. its not like he's a future replacement.
Also, i'm sure some english team is willing to offer lewandowski a sick wage.
And before you say it, yeah, having llorente and lewandowski competing for 1 position would be quite sexy. Both have their strenghts. Beeing able to field one in function of the formation you wanna play against a certain opponent is quite nice.
But we cant afford to have one of them on the bench
And they cant co-exist in the same formation eighter
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Yeah,Monaco and Anzhi are clearly better teams and have more appeal than us.
Dunno why it is so hard understand.We cant attract the present hot talents in the market.
Lewandowski is a hot commodity presently and he would more likely prefer teams and leagues with bigger appeal over us.
Sorry my friend.The least we can do currently is make a deep cl run to convince top players that we can win cl but atm it doesnt seem too likely.
Dunno why it is so hard understand.We cant attract the present hot talents in the market.
Lewandowski is a hot commodity presently and he would more likely prefer teams and leagues with bigger appeal over us.
Sorry my friend.The least we can do currently is make a deep cl run to convince top players that we can win cl but atm it doesnt seem too likely.
Would love to see us muscle in Cuadrado and that guy who's name starts with an I
Dude. Who the fuck do you think you are? Seriously? I wasn't even addressing you ffs, but yet you feel the need to poke your nose into any argument/discussion whether your presence is asked for or not (not to mention your actual relevance). In addition, you are not responsible for the club's budget. Hence, I don't have to/need to listen to you spewing your nonsense. I sincerely hope you are not in sales, because there is no way anyone would buy anything from you with that antagonistic and patronizing attitude (even if it were the greatest product ever).
I think The Cusp is right. BVB is the better team than Juve. They're CL finalists from last season and they play in more attractive league right now. For many people Juve is too good for Italy but not good enough for Europe. To prove that we need to go actually far in CL but instead we struggle with proceeding from our group lately. Many think this Juve is overrated because we can't win for our lives in Europe.
Dortumnd won't make it past group stage? They have a way harder group than ours and they're more likely to proceed than us at the moment.
Dortumnd won't make it past group stage? They have a way harder group than ours and they're more likely to proceed than us at the moment.
There's no way in hell that players would chose BVB over Juventus. Not in a million years. Juventus are more prestigious and relevant club with relatively decent financial power atm. BVB relies mostly on the youth system and once in a blue moon it pays off. It's all about how marketable/attractive certain team is and Juventus' popularity is rapidly increasing on a global scale.
That is your opinion, and while I respect it, I most definitely don't agree with it 
but that's how I see it. I think we need a strong CL run to prove we're better than clubs like BVB and Man Utd. So far we can't seem to fulfill our potential and this is Juve's main problem IMO.- Status