Wishlist and General Juve mercato talk (2014-15) (77 Viewers)
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He did flop and in this market where the price is mostly determined after last good/bad season, 18m seems like a fair deal. See Sanchez, Barca wanted to sell last summer, but no one sane was willing to pay 40m for him. After an excellent season with his club and great WC performances his price went 30-40% up.
Beppe Marotta is like that kid in grade school who would offer you insulting deals for your quality trading cards (hockey, pokemon, whatever).
Example:
"I'll give you two Charmeleons for a Charizard."
etc etc
The owner knows that they'll say no, but they're almost pissed at him for the level of low ball.
8 for Chicharito?
15 for Lavezzi?
17 for Jovetic?
If I'm any one of those teams, I want a lot more than that. In this context it really makes the agreed upon Osvaldo fee seem absurd.
Source: http://www.football-italia.net/53579/juve-await-news-three-bids via tuttosport (grain of salt)
That person was less annoying than that guy who would look and stare at your cards, hover over you enviously, but whose parents couldn't afford to buy them cards (AC MILAN).
Example:
"I'll give you two Charmeleons for a Charizard."
etc etc
The owner knows that they'll say no, but they're almost pissed at him for the level of low ball.
8 for Chicharito?
15 for Lavezzi?
17 for Jovetic?
If I'm any one of those teams, I want a lot more than that. In this context it really makes the agreed upon Osvaldo fee seem absurd.
Source: http://www.football-italia.net/53579/juve-await-news-three-bids via tuttosport (grain of salt)
That person was less annoying than that guy who would look and stare at your cards, hover over you enviously, but whose parents couldn't afford to buy them cards (AC MILAN).
I don't really think it's 100% his fault.
Disclaimer: He is injury prone and that definitely needs to factor into his valuation.
but:
1) He started off immediately by getting injured
2) He only played 13 matches with 11 being fielded as a substitute.
3) He ended off well with 3 goals and 1 assist in his last 8 matches, which sounds pedestrian, but he did it in 195 minutes, which is ~2.2 90 minute game equivalents.
I'd take him a heartbeat, but I'd definitely want to include variable wages/transfer fees based on injuries.
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Usually transfers involve premiums, at least in today's transfer market.
He's offering them anywhere between (by your valuation) 11-33% discounts or by transfermarkt's valuations anywhere between 28%-50% discounts.
That's not going to get anyone to bite.
Examples (using Transfermkt's valuations)
Sanchez: 35 million pounds = ~44 million euros, which is a 46% premium over his 30 million euro value.
Disclaimer: He is injury prone and that definitely needs to factor into his valuation.
but:
1) He started off immediately by getting injured
2) He only played 13 matches with 11 being fielded as a substitute.
3) He ended off well with 3 goals and 1 assist in his last 8 matches, which sounds pedestrian, but he did it in 195 minutes, which is ~2.2 90 minute game equivalents.
I'd take him a heartbeat, but I'd definitely want to include variable wages/transfer fees based on injuries.
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Usually transfers involve premiums, at least in today's transfer market.
He's offering them anywhere between (by your valuation) 11-33% discounts or by transfermarkt's valuations anywhere between 28%-50% discounts.
That's not going to get anyone to bite.
Examples (using Transfermkt's valuations)
Sanchez: 35 million pounds = ~44 million euros, which is a 46% premium over his 30 million euro value.
Beps should suggest 25 million, 3 year instalments with variable pay based on games played.
If he misses 50% of games in a given year that instalment get's sliced by 50%.
Ie: if he repeated this year: 13/38 x 25/3 = Juve's annual payment would only be 2.85M
He could do a similar thing with wages (but performance related). You don't want to do games played because then players play not to get injured. That happened to a player on my favourite Ice Hockey Team a few years back.
If he misses 50% of games in a given year that instalment get's sliced by 50%.
Ie: if he repeated this year: 13/38 x 25/3 = Juve's annual payment would only be 2.85M
He could do a similar thing with wages (but performance related). You don't want to do games played because then players play not to get injured. That happened to a player on my favourite Ice Hockey Team a few years back.
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