Wishlist and General Juve mercato talk (2014-15) (21 Viewers)

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Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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I'd be happy with Sanchez if Barça surgically graft him a pair of balls before sending him to Turin, because he's been utterly devoid of testicular fortitude whenever I've seen him play for them.
Its required in order to play for barcelona.

When he would go away, the effects will fade, and full recovery of balls is expected in 3 weeks time
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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Just cause you don't know someone doesn't mean they not good enough for the club. I'm confident you had no idea how good vidal was before he joined us, or litcht before lazio(neither did I in all honesty), or pogba. Fact is in football there are diamonds to be picked up from all corners of the globe and if you spend all your time following elite clubs and one league you'll never know who these players are or how good they are/can be.

Ali adnan is one of the finest young fullbacks in world football. Pace, power and technique. He's iraqi and was the u20 captain at the past u20 world cup. He made it into the team of the tournament even. Classy displays all over. Think of him as a more naturally gifted litcht. Morrison is uniteds best product since paul scholes(so they say). His beef with big sam has ended with him being sent on loan to the championship and is now taking the mickey out of the teams. Begovic is arguably the finest premiership keeper. Dos santos has had a tough time getting to a point where he might reach his potential. But he's just had his most promising season as a senior footballer. His talent as we all know has always been undoubted. I'm sure you know who lukaku is.

Instead of insisting people are gypsies, how about you watch more football and then perhaps you'll see why a team of a relative group of unknowns can reach CL finals. We can't afford the most expensive players around so we have no choice but to find bargains that'll match other top teams.

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Then that's very disappointing. Mexican on mexican hate, I'd have thought you'd be happy for him since he finally looks like fulfilling all that talent. Vela is very talented too and has been playing great ball but I can't see where we'd fit him in. He's to similar to tevez and an inferior player so he'd likely just bench here.
Oh, I know who Asia's Gareth Bale is. I actually saw him play for Baghdad FC when I was stationed with the 101st Airborne. But my fellow soldiers and I preferred to call him Asia's Brek Shea just to make it more meaningful to us.
 

frzl

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Apr 15, 2006
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Dortmund is having a lucky generation after how many years of mediocrity ?
Bayern, has an excellent generation with Kroos and Muller. But how long has it been since they had such talent trough the yought ranks ?
exactly :agree:
furthermore, people seem to forget, that kroos isn´t really a bayern youth product... they bought him from rostock when everybody in the league already knew, that he was very talented.
it´s not that they did a great scouting job or anything, they just outbid all the other german clubs...
 

petersmit

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Mar 14, 2006
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watched the highlights of a united match yesterday... saw Nani play... he is incredibly fast... he could be very useful if conte could get him to play a bit better (and won't get injured every five matches)
 

jakku7

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Jun 29, 2011
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According to Agresti, Immobile most probably will land in Dortmund. Juventus in fact had already "sold" Ciro, and this is only a matter of time when everything will be sorted out. Besides, Immobile wants very hard to join Borussia and I think that he is afraid of rotting on our bench, that's why he's pressing for the move.
 

Nzoric

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Jan 16, 2011
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We don't have to play with two inside forwards, and I didn't write anything like that. From my perspective, it would be senseless to limit ourselves to 4 or 5 right-footed wingers, because this way we make our team more predictable. It should depend on strategy for specific match and rival, with what type of wingers we start the game. Coach must have the choice, if it is better to put out two inside forwards or not.
It's like you know English but can't understand a single sentence you read. When we played 4-3-3 the last time around we had two right footed wingers, one of them exclusively right footed btw. It makes no fucking difference, as long as Nani is capable of getting the job done with his left foot too.
 

jakku7

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Jun 29, 2011
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It's like you know English but can't understand a single sentence you read. When we played 4-3-3 the last time around we had two right footed wingers, one of them exclusively right footed btw. It makes no $#@!ing difference, as long as Nani is capable of getting the job done with his left foot too.
I though that I clarified it to you, but you still don't understand that there is difference between right-footed player and left-footed. And it seems that you are out of arguments, repeating same sentence over and over again. So once again:

"On the highest level, every single mistake matters. And even if you are so skillful to use your both feet perfectly there is still difference between your better leg and weaker leg. That's why it's more convenient to run with the ball using better leg, you have better control of the ball, there is lower chance to make mistake and lose possesion. That's why it matters, coach.

Chech videos on YT or turn on TV to watch Bayern, City, Borussia or Real. Why do you think Ribery is deployed as left winger and Robben as right winger? They are not skillful enough or it really matters if you are left-footed or right-footed?"
 

Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
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I though that I clarified it to you, but you still don't understand that there is difference between right-footed player and left-footed. And it seems that you are out of arguments, repeating same sentence over and over again. So once again:

"On the highest level, every single mistake matters. And even if you are so skillful to use your both feet perfectly there is still difference between your better leg and weaker leg. That's why it's more convenient to run with the ball using better leg, you have better control of the ball, there is lower chance to make mistake and lose possesion. That's why it matters, coach.

Chech videos on YT or turn on TV to watch Bayern, City, Borussia or Real. Why do you think Ribery is deployed as left winger and Robben as right winger? They are not skillful enough or it really matters if you are left-footed or right-footed?"
:lol:

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The point you're ultimately landing at is that we should have two inside forwards. That is your only point. You've conveniently skipped over my point of the defender not quite knowing which way Nani will go if he is on the RW. I think this discussion has run it's course :)
 

jakku7

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Jun 29, 2011
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The point you're ultimately landing at is that we should have two inside forwards. That is your only point. You've conveniently skipped over my point of the defender not quite knowing which way Nani will go if he is on the RW. I think this discussion has run it's course :)
I didn't write anything like that. You are making up stuff. I wrote that we should have a choice and possibility to put out two inside forwards.

"It should depend on strategy for specific match and rival, with what type of wingers we start the game. Coach must have the choice, if it is better to put out two inside forwards or not."


And that hypothetical babbling, which way Nani goes or not, is just meaningless and proves nothing. If it would be like you said, players like Nani would score tons of goals every season from right flank. And how many goals Portuguese has scored like that so far? Can you tell me? And compare this number to goals scored by Robben. You are arguing against obvious thing, that it's much easier to cut inside from right flank and shot on the goal if you are left-footed.
 

DelPiero no10

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Aug 19, 2013
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Losing immobile and signing morata isn't the worst thing we can do. IMO Morata is the bigger talent and I'm sure he's eager to leave madrid considering the sheer lack of game time he receives. He'd be a great player to get our counter attacking back into order. He also has the size to make quality wide play worth it. His contract also ends in a year so we should get him on a good deal.

People don't seem to understand that youngster represent an opportunity for clubs to get more value for a player than they'd normally get. These 28 or 29 Year olds are proven entities so are priced correctly. The only way to get a bargain is if someone has a contract that's running out. Lots of kids are extremely talented but not proven at the highest level. Give them a chance and then reap the rewards. Look what we've done with Pogba, even if his contract at united hadn't run out they still wouldn't have gotten a fraction of the cash we'd get if we sold him.

The youngsters market gives us the opportunity to maximize our investment. Look at what dortmund did when they got in kagawa, lewa, gundogan, hummels, subotic, and bender. They even managed to win 2 bundesliga titles and reach a CL final without a real major investment.

Ofcourse not all youngsters are worth this sort of faith but there are some out there that are. We could save a lot of money while also seeing our team improve to heights where we all wish they were. The padoins of this world are taking us nowhere and neither are the plethora of experience midtable dross that we're linked to and sign most of the time.
 

donpiero

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Jul 3, 2009
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Losing immobile and signing morata isn't the worst thing we can do. IMO Morata is the bigger talent and I'm sure he's eager to leave madrid considering the sheer lack of game time he receives. He'd be a great player to get our counter attacking back into order. He also has the size to make quality wide play worth it. His contract also ends in a year so we should get him on a good deal.

People don't seem to understand that youngster represent an opportunity for clubs to get more value for a player than they'd normally get. These 28 or 29 Year olds are proven entities so are priced correctly. The only way to get a bargain is if someone has a contract that's running out. Lots of kids are extremely talented but not proven at the highest level. Give them a chance and then reap the rewards. Look what we've done with Pogba, even if his contract at united hadn't run out they still wouldn't have gotten a fraction of the cash we'd get if we sold him.

The youngsters market gives us the opportunity to maximize our investment. Look at what dortmund did when they got in kagawa, lewa, gundogan, hummels, subotic, and bender. They even managed to win 2 bundesliga titles and reach a CL final without a real major investment.

Ofcourse not all youngsters are worth this sort of faith but there are some out there that are. We could save a lot of money while also seeing our team improve to heights where we all wish they were. The padoins of this world are taking us nowhere and neither are the plethora of experience midtable dross that we're linked to and sign most of the time.
:lol2:
 
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