Wishlist and General Juve mercato talk (2014-15) (11 Viewers)

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Xperd

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And there's a reason why Gabbiadini is rumored to be brought back before Immobile and that is cos he not only provides width but can also be used as a striker.He's versatile and we have a fetish for such players.It shouldnt be that hard to understand.
Now the big question like jukazem pointed out is if he would be willing to be a squad rotational player.
 

PedroFlu

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Sep 20, 2011
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Marchisio instead of Pirlo and that teams is pretty scary.

Cannot play 433 with a Pirlo at his age, if the wings are sanchez and nani
Perfect.

Pirlo should rotate hard and play mainly in Serie A, or in home games against small sides like Copenhagen who will defend 11 men.
I'd only add that Chiellini and Barzagli seem to be rather slow to play a 4men defense, but it could work out.
And it's a shame to use Asa as a primary LB, but if he actually adopts this new position, he'd be WC IMO.

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We were mostly drawing games with the 433, and Marchisio was doing alot of defensive work back then. We switched 352 and we won the title, and the next 3.

We got pogba and vidal, beasting about and scoring goals. If you put Pirlo there, then at least 1 of them will be forced to play deeper to protect the defence, and make us less prone to counters trough the center.

Now if you put marchisio, or a cdm/covering cm there, then Pogba and Vidal can keep on bringing the pressure to the opponents defence, and make forward runs and join the CF in attack, whilst Sanchez and Nani keep it wide.

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You put your faith in an article of Mediaset ? :rofl:

i'm sure their journalist is in our boardrooms, writing down the conversations :rofl:

433 worked, but it worked at expenses of huuuuuuuge running from Pirlo/Marchisio/Vidal/Pepe. These guys killed themselves to support the scheme. They would definitely die in the 2nd part of the season.

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And there's a reason why Gabbiadini is rumored to be brought back before Immobile and that is cos he not only provides width but can also be used as a striker.He's versatile and we have a fetish for such players.It shouldnt be that hard to understand.
Now the big question like jukazem pointed out is if he would be willing to be a squad rotational player.
He definitely would. This guy is coming back.
Another reason is that Immobile is one of our guys who has the biggest market now. If you go and try to sell Gabbiadini, it would be hard to get 12/13M for him. Immobile means 10M immediate cash. The management wants this. And probably they think he's a one summer wonder.

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Kolarov is slow, expensive wages, overrated, low IQ, lazy, and can't defend for his life.

But I'd rather take a shot at him than wasting Asa as a LB. Asa would give us great depth for the mid along with Marchisio.

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Idk why everyone wants Gabbiadini here. He is not a winger, he has been played out of position this whole season and he wont start at all here besides Coppa games.
He actually has a chance of being Llorente's backup, if we bring 2 wingers, no Immobile, Giovinco remaining and Quags/Vuci/Osvaldo leaving as they should.

But I agree, he's very average as a winger. As a CF he could do well, don't know if he can post up though - he's very skinny.
 

AOD4

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If he has to play 'out of position' at Sampdoria to get games, I don't think anyone wants him here as a starter. He can be backup player who can be in squad as a 3rd choice CF or 2nd choice inside forward/winger.

how much is his Sampdoria half going to cost though?? another €5.5m? also would he accept a squad player role.


yes we do, Sampdoria own the better half of the co-own, Juve can't have him play without paying for loan or the other half. different case for Berardi.
http://www.juventus.com/juve/en/news/gabbiadini_zaza
Are you sure, it means we have to buy out the whole players to bring him back? Well that's news to me. I would thought as long as the club can come to an agreement it can be done without us have to buy him out.
 

jukazem

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Are you sure, it means we have to buy out the whole players to bring him back? Well that's news to me. I would thought as long as the club can come to an agreement it can be done without us have to buy him out.
we don't have to buy him whole, but either agree to buy his other half or agree on a loan. Sampdoria owns his main contract because Juve sold it, and bought back a co-own agreement only.

Juventus Football Club S.p.A. announces the disposal to U.C. Sampdoria S.p.A. of the registration rights of the same player for a consideration of € 11 million to be paid in 3 years. At the same time, Juventus and Sampdoria signed a player sharing agreement (ex art. 102 bis N.O.I.F.) related to the same player for a consideration of € 5.5 million to be paid by Juventus in 3 years.
this case is same as Marrone's. Berardi's case is opposite, Juventus bought whole and sold half back to Sassuolo. Juve own's Berardi's main contract, you can see in the following link, official statment about Berardi is " the 19-year-old striker to remain on loan in Emilia throughout the 2013/14 campaign." meaning once the loan expires, Berardi comes back, same case for Boakye; but this is not the case with Gabbiadini or Immobile or Marrone.
http://www.juventus.com/juve/en/news/juventus_sassuolo_marrone_berardi
 
Jul 20, 2012
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Have you seen him at least one time this season?

http://www.whoscored.com/Players/74921

AMR: 7.16
FWR: 7.59
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FW: 6.89

He had been playing FW at the beggining of the season, than he was moved to right wing and started to play much better.
You are arguing about something I am right about. He is a natural center forward regardless of his ratings which prove nothing. Just because a player can play at a certain position doesn't mean thats his natural position. I already explained it with the Asa comparison.
 

jakku7

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You are arguing about something I am right about. He is a natural center forward regardless of his ratings which prove nothing. Just because a player can play at a certain position doesn't mean thats his natural position. I already explained it with the Asa comparison.
With all due respect, but you don't know what you are talking about. And I'm afraid you haven't seen Gabbiadini this season even once.

He was average at most playing CF, as he wasn't able to hold the ball or win headers. That's why he was moved to the right flank after couple of games, where he proved that he can be really useful squad member and one of the best Sampdoria players. And most of all, as a RW he has a chance to show how decent dribbler he is cutting inside and shooting on goal with power. His skills just predispose him to play wide. Stating that he is natural CF you proved that you haven't seen Sampdoria game this season even one time.

And this comparison to Asamoah is just pointless. Kwadwo turned out to be pretty good playing left wingback, while Gabbiadini was awful or at most average as a lone striker.
 

donpiero

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Jul 3, 2009
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If Pepe gets his full fitness back, I'd like to see him as RB, last night he did one cross that was better than all of Licht's this whole season. His overlappings with Sanchez would be total fap.
 
Jul 20, 2012
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With all due respect, but you don't know what you are talking about. And I'm afraid you haven't seen Gabbiadini this season even once.

He was average at most playing CF, as he wasn't able to hold the ball or win headers. That's why he was moved to the right flank after couple of games, where he proved that he can be really useful squad member and one of the best Sampdoria players. And most of all, as a RW he has a chance to show how decent dribbler he is cutting inside and shooting on goal with power. His skills just predispose him to play wide. Stating that he is natural CF you proved that you haven't seen Sampdoria game this season even one time.

And this comparison to Asamoah is just pointless. Kwadwo turned out to be pretty good playing left wingback, while Gabbiadini was awful or at most average as a lone striker.
I may have not watched him this season but it doesn't really justify why we should bring him back in the first place. He may play well in his assigned position but he should not even be considered.
 

Hust

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May 29, 2005
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Yeah. That Padova kid also wasn't ready for Juve. Poor kid. How could he shine while competing against Vialli, Ravanelli and Baggio (top goalscorer then) ? Oh man his future definitely will be damaged.
:D


Cue the "Comparing Berardi to Del Piero hate" in 3...2...1....
 
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