Wishlist and General Juve mercato talk (2014-15) (130 Viewers)

[alexjuventino]

He can go around it. Basically what Juve BoD may decide (If John gives a green light) on their next shareholder meeting is to emit new shares and Exor to entirely subscribe them. They could pump in 100m in the club easily, but I won't be that optimistic, mere 50m would suffice.

Do you think it will happen?

 

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[Vlad]

Marotta don't lie. He said no big names. Unless by invest heavily, you guys mean 4 Candrevas.

Next season I think we'll do everything to get very far in the CL and that will require some investments. Agnelli basically said last Christmas that Juve can spend and acquire champions if they'll fit our plans. Spending for the sake of it, as we've seen City and PSG continually practicing, will never be our strategy.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

Same here and it's even more realistic if you consider Exor's profit.

they'll probably fund it into fucking ferrari any ways

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Same here and it's even more realistic if you consider Exor's profit.

they'll probably fund it into fucking ferrari any ways

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Next season I think we'll do everything to get very far in the CL and that will require some investments. Agnelli basically said last Christmas that Juve can spend and acquire champions if they'll fit our plans. Spending for the sake of it, as we've seen City and PSG continually practicing, won't ever be our strategy.

I may be wrong, but I think we heard that "we can buy champions, if..." thing a few times before. But when Beppe starts softening the blow before the mercato begins, it's time to take a cold bath.

 

[jukazem]

He can go around it. Basically what Juve BoD may decide (If John gives a green light) on their next shareholder meeting is to emit new shares and Exor to entirely subscribe them. They could pump in 100m in the club easily, but I won't be that optimistic, mere 50m would suffice.

Last capital raising were in 01/02 (Ipo), then 06/07 (after Calciopoli), then 11/12 (stadium), if it's goes by that 5 year trend then the next one should be 16/17 but by what reasoning is the question. if there is no strong reason, shareholders may not oblige.

 

[Vlad]

Do you think it will happen?

I believe that Exor will pump in some capital in Juve to keep us afloat as with another expected loss our reserves will be dangerously low.

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Last capital raising were in 01/02 (Ipo), then 06/07 (after Calciopoli), then 11/12 (stadium), if it's goes by that 5 year trend then the next one should be 16/17 but by what reasoning is the question. if there is no strong reason, shareholders may not oblige.

Juve are expected to lose 30-40m this year, right? And our reserves were 45m before the start of the season iirc. That might be valid reason to invest. They'll undoubtedly dilute shares with that subscription, their prices will drop as we've seen in the last few years. Exor is 60% controlled by Agnelli and Co., so Elkan's word will be the last regarding this matter.

 

[alexjuventino]

I believe that Exor will pump in some capital in Juve to keep us afloat as with another expected loss our reserves will be dangerously low.

Not sure if you'd be able to answer this but if Exor were to invest, given their revenue increase, would it be a loan for us or would it just be an investment?

 

[Vlad]

Not sure if you'd be able to answer this but if Exor were to invest, given their revenue increase, would it be a loan for us or would it just be an investment?

They would increase their ownership percentage in Juve, so it wouldn't be a loan. The only way to become an owner of a Joint stock company is to buy stocks.

 

[jukazem]

Juve are expected to lose 30-40m this year, right? And our reserves were 45m before the start of the season iirc. That might be valid reason to invest. They'll undoubtedly dilute shares, their prices will drop as we've seen in the last few years.

yes about the loss and reserve situation but some other clubs have negative equity too without any FFP implication, although those clubs aren't publicly traded. I am not sure if that's a strong enough reason.

 

[GarfielD]

How much would he cost? Can his price be less than 30m?

 

[alexjuventino]

They would increase the ownership percentage in Juve, so it wouldn't be a loan.

Oh okay cool. Man the Sanchez rumor got me going now.

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How much would he cost? Can his price be less than 30m?

I would assume it would come close to 30m.

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Also just to put it out there if people didn't actually read the post by GDM, he does mention that he thinks it will be difficult because of the ban but doesn't state anything about Sanchez wanting to stay at Barca.

 

[Vlad]

yes about the loss and reserve situation but some other clubs have negative equity too without any FFP implication, although those clubs aren't publicly traded. I am not sure if that's a strong enough reason.

Negative equity, or a loss? In Italy equity for the company of Juve's magnitude may drop to -4.5m, anything bellow and we'd have to declare bankruptcy iirc.

 

[PowerNedved]

When a club buys a player it becomes an asset so if the club has loss it's not about transfer money but operational costs like wages, if vucinic, quag and gio are leaving, we could surely cover Sanchez' wages. F@$& FFP!!

 

[Vlad]

When a club buys a player it becomes an asset so if the club has loss it's not about transfer money but operational costs like wages, if vucinic, quag and gio are leaving, we could surely cover Sanchez' wages. F@$& FFP!!

Add amortization to that list, and that is influenced by transfers.

And fuck FFP by all means. What PSG and City have been doing is outrageous.

 

[Mark]

What do you want?

Rodriguez or Moreno.

 

[alexjuventino]

When a club buys a player it becomes an asset so if the club has loss it's not about transfer money but operational costs like wages, if vucinic, quag and gio are leaving, we could surely cover Sanchez' wages. F@$& FFP!!

Exactly as someone was stating above. Currently the wage isn't the problem because we will be freeing some wages up such as de ceglie, Quag, vucinic, motta, and possibly storari. The biggest concern at the moment is our budget.

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Rodriguez or Moreno.

Sanchez please

 

[GarfielD]

Exactly as someone was stating above. Currently the wage isn't the problem because we will be freeing some wages up such as de ceglie, Quag, vucinic, motta, and possibly storari. The biggest concern at the moment is our budget.

Installments.

 

[Mark]

Exactly as someone was stating above. Currently the wage isn't the problem because we will be freeing some wages up such as de ceglie, Quag, vucinic, motta, and possibly storari. The biggest concern at the moment is our budget.

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Sanchez please

GRIEZMANN

 

[alexjuventino]

Installments.

Of course but at a certain point, for example why would Barca accept installments on Sanchez? If they are going to sell I can't see them not wanting the money within like a year or 2, not the typical 5 years or some shit lol

 

[PowerNedved]

Add amortization to that list, and that is influenced by transfers

IMO that would be Tevez case cuz after 3 years the player leaves and the 9m we paid amortizates like that, but in Sanchez case after the contract lenght the player wouldnt loose asset value