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mukumsplau

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Jul 9, 2008
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i wudnt mind selling pogba. where the fizzuck are we to get cash from to improve the team. we can use part of that money on someone in pogba's role who can offer equal to, more than, or (at worst)incrementally less than what pogba(on his best day) can offer AND have sufficient funds to cover other areas properly so the team can better express themselves as a unit.

i always try think of an optimal solution which may call for making decisions you may not want to make, but have to make when considering your process parameters, operating cost and product spec
 

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Papi-a

Senior Member
May 9, 2006
681
Buffon

Licht - Chielini - Barzagli - LB

Di Maria Asamoah Vidal

Winger Tevez Iturbe/Winger


Stop this 352 , is getting so borring and predictable! We are the only team in europe with a player not able to beat his marker!

Sell Llorente (most horrible player in Juventus since Amauri) Sell Pogba (if crazy Money arrives) He is great a player but he not a match changer and probably never will be. So a offer close to 80 and I would sell!!

We really need to change our mentality and formation! I'm stunned a one pointed out - that we play so bad football with the team we have!

Drop a playmaker , and player with players on the 3 man midtfield able to beat his marker and with high stamina and power!
 

petersmit

Senior Member
Mar 14, 2006
7,031
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seriously GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE
this has to be a troll.... it can't be....

Llorente horrible :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: scores double digits after sitting on a bench for a whole fucking season...
Pogba no game changer :lol::lol::lol::lol: he is 21 ffs!!! this season: won us the match against torino, won us the match against parma, had vital assists in a couple of matches... last season: won us the match against bologna, was vital against udinese with 2 goals...

"Play bad football" FFS we are still the only team that could actually trouble Real Madrid this season... they have won every match in the CL and freaking simple (1-6 against Gala and Schalke and so on) but they drew and could barely win against us

also: Di Maria + a LB + Iturbe and so on isn't really possible...

Please do yourself a favor and fuck off
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
24,055
Buffon

Licht - Chielini - Barzagli - LB

Di Maria Asamoah Vidal

Winger Tevez Iturbe/Winger


Stop this 352 , is getting so borring and predictable! We are the only team in europe with a player not able to beat his marker!

Sell Llorente (most horrible player in Juventus since Amauri) Sell Pogba (if crazy Money arrives) He is great a player but he not a match changer and probably never will be. So a offer close to 80 and I would sell!!

We really need to change our mentality and formation! I'm stunned a one pointed out - that we play so bad football with the team we have!

Drop a playmaker , and player with players on the 3 man midtfield able to beat his marker and with high stamina and power!
:rofl:
 

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
81,126
Buffon

Licht - Chielini - Barzagli - LB

Di Maria Asamoah Vidal

Winger Tevez Iturbe/Winger


Stop this 352 , is getting so borring and predictable! We are the only team in europe with a player not able to beat his marker!

Sell Llorente (most horrible player in Juventus since Amauri) Sell Pogba (if crazy Money arrives) He is great a player but he not a match changer and probably never will be. So a offer close to 80 and I would sell!!

We really need to change our mentality and formation! I'm stunned a one pointed out - that we play so bad football with the team we have!

Drop a playmaker , and player with players on the 3 man midtfield able to beat his marker and with high stamina and power!
Llorente worst striker since Amauri :lol:

Pogba not a game changer :lol:

This forum really is scraping the bottom of the barrel lately.
 

Suns

Release clause?
May 22, 2009
22,090
Can we pay Udinese 15m every year and have first dibbs to all of their players? Think of it like a subscription.

Next Marotta technique. :beppe:
 

LiquidPLP

Senior Member
Jun 9, 2012
12,237
I don't see how changing to a 433 would require a choice between Tevez and Llorente. The 433 which we played in Conte's first season had Vucinic on the left and Pepe on the right. Pepe and Lichtsteiner were bombing it up and down the flank the whole game, often overlapping and generally being wingers.

Vucinic on the left, though, was playing as much more of an SS than a LW. I'm not sure if he took it down the line instead of cutting in even once. I don't see why Tevez couldn't play like that, with Giovinco as a backup (and therefore being used as he was at Parma when he had those two great seasons).

By that rationale we would only need to sign two wingers, both for the RW. Of course that's presuming that Isla doesn't suddenly recover whatever tactical understanding and ability to make decisions that he had pre-injury. If Isla comes back into some kind of form he could be used as a RW bench option.

So if switching to a 433 we could get away with only signing two RWs and one LB.
Man I've been saying this for a long time now but then you get "Tevez can't play on the wing" bullshit argument. It's like he's mentally disabled or something. Such a technically gifted player with so much grinta and works very hard in defense can't play on the wing :lol: PSG plays Cavani on the wing and they're just fine. Killing their mickey mouse league just like we do but in CL they're doing much better than Juve ... with Cavani on the wing :lol:
 

Berbatov

Junior Member
Oct 19, 2004
252
i wudnt mind selling pogba. where the fizzuck are we to get cash from to improve the team. we can use part of that money on someone in pogba's role who can offer equal to, more than, or (at worst)incrementally less than what pogba(on his best day) can offer AND have sufficient funds to cover other areas properly so the team can better express themselves as a unit.

i always try think of an optimal solution which may call for making decisions you may not want to make, but have to make when considering your process parameters, operating cost and product spec
Will be bargain if we sell Pogba for 60mill euros,but must try to be smart for his replacement.One from KOndogbia and William Carvalho will suit his place.No need to be big star,just promissing one.Also think Alexis Sanchez is much needed for 4-3-3!
 

chester

Too busy to bother
May 20, 2006
15,055
Buffon

Licht - Chielini - Barzagli - LB

Di Maria Asamoah Vidal

Winger Tevez Iturbe/Winger


Stop this 352 , is getting so borring and predictable! We are the only team in europe with a player not able to beat his marker!

Sell Llorente (most horrible player in Juventus since Amauri) Sell Pogba (if crazy Money arrives) He is great a player but he not a match changer and probably never will be. So a offer close to 80 and I would sell!!

We really need to change our mentality and formation! I'm stunned a one pointed out - that we play so bad football with the team we have!

Drop a playmaker , and player with players on the 3 man midtfield able to beat his marker and with high stamina and power!
Di Maria in a 3 man midfield, oh please.
 

Papi-a

Senior Member
May 9, 2006
681
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seriously GET THE $#@! OUT OF HERE
this has to be a troll.... it can't be....

Llorente horrible :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: scores double digits after sitting on a bench for a whole $#@!ing season...
Pogba no game changer :lol::lol::lol::lol: he is 21 ffs!!! this season: won us the match against torino, won us the match against parma, had vital assists in a couple of matches... last season: won us the match against bologna, was vital against udinese with 2 goals...

"Play bad football" FFS we are still the only team that could actually trouble Real Madrid this season... they have won every match in the CL and freaking simple (1-6 against Gala and Schalke and so on) but they drew and could barely win against us

also: Di Maria + a LB + Iturbe and so on isn't really possible...

Please do yourself a favor and $#@! off

Pogba is a fantastisc player, but I still Think we could make Pour team better with crazy money.. Think back to Zidane time! buffon, Nedved and thuram was better combined than Zidane alone.. We do not have money for god sake!

llorente??? OMG!! If you seriously Think this man is good enough to start for juventus, then you schoyld for Fuck off!! juventus is a team Who schould compete for Chl every year - and he is for sure not a player on level with the top 20 attsøackers.. He is tottenham material!!
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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Man I've been saying this for a long time now but then you get "Tevez can't play on the wing" bullshit argument. It's like he's mentally disabled or something. Such a technically gifted player with so much grinta and works very hard in defense can't play on the wing :lol: PSG plays Cavani on the wing and they're just fine. Killing their mickey mouse league just like we do but in CL they're doing much better than Juve ... with Cavani on the wing :lol:
I don't think anyone is saying he can't play there, I just wonder how wise it is to move a (currently) 19 goal striker out wide, especially when he considers himself a CF.
 

petersmit

Senior Member
Mar 14, 2006
7,031
Pogba is a fantastisc player, but I still Think we could make Pour team better with crazy money.. Think back to Zidane time! buffon, Nedved and thuram was better combined than Zidane alone.. We do not have money for god sake!

llorente??? OMG!! If you seriously Think this man is good enough to start for juventus, then you schoyld for Fuck off!! juventus is a team Who schould compete for Chl every year - and he is for sure not a player on level with the top 20 attsøackers.. He is tottenham material!!
First of all: Zidane was 29 when we sold him... for 73.5M... with that money we couldn't even buy Buffon and nedved together because that was over 90M... add thuram to that and we are on 130M+....

second of all... yes indeed.. we don't have money.... and when you don't have that... you cant compete for the CL every single fucking year.... We were trying to get Aguero, van persie, dzeko, jovetic, cavani and higuain but got none of those.... so a Llorente for free is a very good deal.. if you're not happy with that then you are retarded... that list of strikers i posted has a lot of strikers on it that went on to a different club for a fuckload of cash... only Aguero was really worth all the money IMO

so do you think we should sell a future world class midfielder so we could spend 40M+ on a player who might fail? Or should we keep him and try getting good deals like Llorente and Tevez so we can slowly but surely build a good team to challenge the CL next year or the year after that?
 

Papi-a

Senior Member
May 9, 2006
681
First of all: Zidane was 29 when we sold him... for 73.5M... with that money we couldn't even buy Buffon and nedved together because that was over 90M... add thuram to that and we are on 130M+....

second of all... yes indeed.. we don't have money.... and when you don't have that... you cant compete for the CL every single $#@!ing year.... We were trying to get Aguero, van persie, dzeko, jovetic, cavani and higuain but got none of those.... so a Llorente for free is a very good deal.. if you're not happy with that then you are retarded... that list of strikers i posted has a lot of strikers on it that went on to a different club for a $#@!load of cash... only Aguero was really worth all the money IMO

so do you think we should sell a future world class midfielder so we could spend 40M+ on a player who might fail? Or should we keep him and try getting good deals like Llorente and Tevez so we can slowly but surely build a good team to challenge the CL next year or the year after that?

I never said llorente deal was bad! But If we can sell for clear to 20,we schould do it!! The problem for us to Get to that next level is we fucking need players Who have pace and dribling skills! These kind of players win you the big matches - all big teams have.. We don't! In My opinion all we need to Cloe the gap on the top 5 clubs is the players with x factor!! We have the base, but we that extra something!!

People saying di Maria can't Play in 3 man midfielder?? Why not? Why can he do it in Madrid, wilshere in arsenal, nasri in city, iniesta in Barcelona!! This is exactly Why Italy is falling behind, all Italian teams need to wake up and stop this defensive shit!

2014 and stil we Play with 5 fucking defenders!

Regarding Pogba. He is One of a Kind but he is failing to commit and stil i believe whe actually can make our team Better with the money we can sell him for!
 

petersmit

Senior Member
Mar 14, 2006
7,031
Why would you sell a player who has pace and has dribble skills...so you can buy players who have pace and have dribble skills?

Yes if Pogba refuses to extend his contract it will become inevitable and we should sell him... but lets wait untill after the WC first
 
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