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rakib567

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they got in the 2012. summer and since, he immediatly got used to their style, he improved greatly, got along with the teammates, is happy there, is a great bench option for them and is still young so he is a future replacement for "Robbery". they have no need to sell him...
Gustavo got used to their style, he improved greatly and had a happy time there. he was a greta bench option but guess what? he left. Shaqiri same situation but in our favour he is NOT happy at Bayern because of lack of playing time.
 

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zizinho

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Both shaqiri and tevez would have a free role. if you look at top players like Ronaldo or Ribery they don't just attack from the wing. they also go in the middle to support midfield. Tevez played on the left technically in the Madrid game but if you looked at him he was mainly supporting pirlo pogba and vidal and creating chances. he made tonnes of assist from that left side of the field like marchisio's header so your argument that tevez would not supply to llorente is not relevant.
are you sure you watched Real-Juve
 

rakib567

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1st Bayern is not a selling club. they dont sell their key players. if the trainer doesent need the player he is sold (Van Gaal>Lucio, Guardiola>Gustavo...). they obviously want to keep Shaq so they wont sell him.

2nd they have great relationships with Wolfsburg for a while now and they didnt want Gustavo to leave the BL for not dropping the quality of the league. With Fiorentina, Gomez only wanted there, he even said he turned down Real MAdrid for them + Bayern wanted to return a favor to them for a "fair" deal they had with Toni. you cant compare Shaqiri with those 2
clearly if shaqiri wants a move out which he wants they will not push him against it.
 

zizinho

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Gustavo got used to their style, he improved greatly and had a happy time there. he was a greta bench option but guess what? he left. Shaqiri same situation but in our favour he is NOT happy at Bayern because of lack of playing time.
Gustavo was not wanted by the Genious:inter:. he uses Lahm as a DM :sergio: (it only works because Lahm is a tactically perfect player) and has Martinez as a backup DM and CB. MArtinez was starting last season in favor of Gustavo so where do you think Gustavo would fit now when they play with just 1 DM and that spot occupies Lahm + they signed Rode for free and he will join this summer.

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clearly if shaqiri wants a move out which he wants they will not push him against it.
he doesent want a move
 

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Forget 4231, 433 2011 style is as far as Conte would go. But forget Nani or anyone who doesn't track back, If ya'll can get a player with Pepe type of work ethic like Di Maria and Cuadrado then sure. If not, 352 will continue.
 

rakib567

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Gustavo was not wanted by the Genious:inter:. he uses Lahm as a DM :sergio: (it only works because Lahm is a tactically perfect player) and has Martinez as a backup DM and CB. MArtinez was starting last season in favor of Gustavo so where do you think Gustavo would fit now when they play with just 1 DM and that spot occupies Lahm + they signed Rode for free and he will join this summer.

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he doesent want a move
who says he doesn't? he is getting less playing time than isla does here and he has the whole career to look upto. with the likes of ribery externding their contract to 2017 is he going to be sitting on the bench for 3 years straight before ribery retires or leaves? I don't think so. also Bayern are interested in draxler so they will be upto selling shaqiri. also nedved likes him.
 

zizinho

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It pains the heart to see such tactical perfection, such murderers of tiki taki beeing violently $#@!d by guardiola.

Man utd has to eliminate them
and he said he will accomodate himslef to their playing style and not them to him :lol2:. hes making them play like the team they crushed 7:0 in two legs only a year ago :sergio:
 

Zacheryah

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Forget 4231, 433 2011 style is as far as Conte would go. But forget Nani or anyone who doesn't track back, If ya'll can get a player with Pepe type of work ethic like Di Maria and Cuadrado then sure. If not, 352 will continue.
Agreed with your analysis and conte's mindset
 

zizinho

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who says he doesn't? he is getting less playing time than isla does here and he has the whole career to look upto. with the likes of ribery externding their contract to 2017 is he going to be sitting on the bench for 3 years straight before ribery retires or leaves? I don't think so. also Bayern are interested in draxler so they will be upto selling shaqiri. also nedved likes him.
Shaqiri is still young. what is he 21? 22? hes playing for the CL winner, competing with Ribery, Robben, Muller for his spot and still managed to play 16 games in the BL (out of 28, and he was injured for a month) and 28 games in all competition. so, he doesent have little playing time at all (for a 22 year old who plays for the CL winner and has Ribery and Robben), next season he will play even more, hes winning trophies so i dont see a problem with him being unhappy. we also know that Rummenigge stated they want to keep him.

he may eventualy be loaned out to a BL team playing CL (to help both sides) for one year but thats it. he will stay a Bayern player for many years to come ;)
 

rakib567

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Shaqiri is still young. what is he 21? 22? hes playing for the CL winner, competing with Ribery, Robben, Muller for his spot and still managed to play 16 games in the BL (out of 28, and he was injured for a month) and 28 games in all competition. so, he doesent have little playing time at all (for a 22 year old who plays for the CL winner and has Ribery and Robben), next season he will play even more, hes winning trophies so i dont see a problem with him being unhappy. we also know that Rummenigge stated they want to keep him.

he may eventualy be loaned out to a BL team playing CL (to help both sides) for one year but thats it. he will stay a Bayern player for many years to come ;)
Bayern loaning players :facepalm2: you have no idea what u are talking about.

Shaqiri is unhappy otherwise he wodn't be talking about other leagues and other teams.
 

Joe

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Forget 4231, 433 2011 style is as far as Conte would go. But forget Nani or anyone who doesn't track back, If ya'll can get a player with Pepe type of work ethic like Di Maria and Cuadrado then sure. If not, 352 will continue.
:tup:

Cuadrado should be our main guy, he can play in a 4-3-3 and a 3-5-2 as well as playing on both wings.

It's no wonder Conte really wants this guy.
 

Hydde

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Cuadrado is the Cavani/Aguero/Van Persie/Jovetic of this year... the attacking player we all want... but will probably be a bit too expensive for us...
This is the problem with Cuadrado. Fiorentina wil not sell him to us. I dont know why peeps continue using him as an option. He isnt guys, he will be Jovetic 2.0. again, FIORENTINA WILL NOT SELL HIM TO US. If he bitch and moans Jovetic style...he will end in PSG.

Guys, wake up-
 

zizinho

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1st i said he may eventualy be loaned out, which means he will most likely stay and MAYBE be loaned out if both sides decide it would be a good move.

2nd looks like you realized youre wrong so you start puting :sergios: because thats the only thing left to you

enjoy watching Shaqiri in Bayern for years to come ;)
 

Joe

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This is the problem with Cuadrado. Fiorentina wil not sell him to us. I dont know why peeps continue using him as an option. He isnt guys, he will be Jovetic 2.0. again, FIORENTINA WILL NOT SELL HIM TO US. If he bitch and moans Jovetic style...he will end in PSG.

Guys, wake up-
:cry:
 

zizinho

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This is the problem with Cuadrado. Fiorentina wil not sell him to us. I dont know why peeps continue using him as an option. He isnt guys, he will be Jovetic 2.0. again, FIORENTINA WILL NOT SELL HIM TO US. If he bitch and moans Jovetic style...he will end in PSG.

Guys, wake up-
Udinese also have half of his contract
 

Hydde

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Udinese also have half of his contract
Which we cant do shit about anyways. Fiorentina has the upper hand on Cuadrado´s case.

And it doesnt matter what happens, we need to negotiate with fiorentina at some point, and theres when everything will crumble.


The only thing i can think about to solve this ... is to help Udinese buy cuadrado´s half fomr Fiorentina somehow, and then buy him from Udinese. And im not sure if this is legal anyways.

Otherwise, not.
 

zizinho

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Which we cant do $#@! about anyways. Fiorentina has the upper hand on Cuadrado´s case.

And it doesnt matter what happens, we need to negotiate with fiorentina at some point, and theres when everything will crumble.
i think i asked that a while ago here and that someone here answered that Fiorentina doesent control Udinese's half which means we can buy it without them interferring. then try to negotiate with them and if they refuse enter a blind auction. :D
 
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