Wishlist and General Juve mercato talk (2014-15) (44 Viewers)

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    That was the offer we simply couldn't refuse. If one like that comes by, we'll take it regardless.
    They never put cash in Juve in the Moggi days so he didn what he had to do, sell Zidane, Vieri, Inzaghi, Henry...

    when they finally put cash in we had Secco burn 50m on Diego and Melo.

    Now we're back to the Moggi budget days and can't spend 30m on a player and high wages. For that we need to sell big.
     

    Vlad

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    They never put cash in Juve in the Moggi days so he didn what he had to do, sell Zidane, Vieri, Inzaghi, Henry...

    when they finally put cash in we had Secco burn 50m on Diego and Melo.

    Now we're back to the Moggi budget days and can't spend 30m on a player and high wages. For that we need to sell big.
    If the offer is really good, one that might allow us few good investments, it will be sensible thing to do. As for this season we were on a verge of signing Iturbe for 27m, so that might be indicative of better things to come. Between Juve in the 90es and the current one is a big difference, as now we have different ways to afford 25m purchase, other than selling our best players. Back then we weren't stock joint company and have operated with 0 debt. Now we can use rollovers, equity financing, etc...
     
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    I hope to see that but I've been waiting for this for 4 years and I think our biggest investment was Matri at a bit more than 15m €. I really do hope better things are yet to come and can buy a top player at 25m+ that can make a difference in this club.
     

    Fellas

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    If we are going to pay for almost all players we get this season next year. What have we spend this year :D. Only on Morata?

    With Pereyra im almost sure I read on Juventus.com that if we are going to buy him next year, we are goint to pay in in 3 installments, ( 3 years) You don't know Marotta yet? :D Did you expect us to pay 15 million euros for Pereyra in one istallment? :D
     
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    If we are going to pay for almost all players we get this season next year. What have we spend this year :D. Only on Morata?

    With Pereyra im almost sure I read on Juventus.com that if we are going to buy him next year, we are goint to pay in in 3 installments, ( 3 years) You don't know Marotta yet? :D Did you expect us to pay 15 million euros for Pereyra in one istallment? :D
    the 15m would be paid in 3 instalments but shows up as 15m in the books for that year. Not a financial expert though. Thought I read that somewhere.
     
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    so in our current situation its better to get romulo and close the marceto this year in order to save some cash for next year, push the limit of this squad and get the best out of it?
    from what i read from you guys we have to spend almost 40M next year if we are going to bring all this young players back berardi etc...of course if this season went bad that mean we have to sell one of pogba or vidal just to get this players back.
     

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    Im sure Marotta will do the same with Berardi also, that we pay it in istallments over 2-3 seasons. This is how we work guys. Could be a reason why we don't get big players from other countries. Im not sure how the big clubs in England, Spain, Germany work, if they can pay it upfront. But we surely don't do it, every transfer I see us do, expect small ones is that we pay it in installmens over some years.

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    We are not going to spend 40 million next year. I don't understand why people think so. They should read info about the transfers on Juventus.com. Pereyra for example im sure I read on juventus.com that if we buy him next year ( we will do that) the deal is paid in 3 installments over 3 years. That means that the first installment is the only one that have an impact on next seasons budget.

    This is how we do most of our deals..
     

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    If we dont get any creative attacking midfielder of quality then, we may have a really difficult time to keeping Vidal and Pogboom next season..

    I just hope Marotta really has a plan with this quality attacking midfielder,else we could be suffering this season..
     

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    the 15m would be paid in 3 instalments but shows up as 15m in the books for that year. Not a financial expert though. Thought I read that somewhere.
    Nah, it doesn't. :)

    Only amortization is shown in our income statement, and that cost is spread over duration of the contract.

    In balance sheet though you might find under notes the expenditure on players (full amount) for that year and it increases the value of our assets.
     

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    the 15m would be paid in 3 instalments but shows up as 15m in the books for that year. Not a financial expert though. Thought I read that somewhere.
    No I don't believe so, The financial thing is quite hard to understand. But a guy on a swedish Juventus forum explained some things quite good. I don't remember everything. But he said that we have 200 million euro budget atm for a season, and a transfer for example of 25 million euros with a 5 year contract of 2,5 million euros. Doesen't mean that the transfer cost us 27,5 million that season. It could be 7,5 million euros that per season because the lengt of the contract. Im not 100 % sure but somethiing like that.

    He also explained that you could sell a player for a certain price, but if you bought him for alot more, it will still have a negative impact on the budget.

    I don't understand it so good, but it's more complex then we think haha.

    The shit we think here is far from reality.

    Example, isla 10 million out, Quagliarella 3, Vucinic 10= 23 mlillion is far from reality :D
     

    Zacheryah

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    No wonder why Conte left. hardly blame him neither tbh. All this talk of investments and cash injections from sponsorship deals and all the management can do is spend it on long term spreads leaving little to spend on quality.
    Its these long spread investments that set us apart from inter and milan post calciopoli


    They are mediocre trash, we rule italy, and now got a coach for europe
     
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    Nah, it doesn't. :)

    Only amortization is shown in our income statement, and that cost is spread over duration of the contract.

    In balance sheet though you might find under notes the expenditure on players (full amount) for that year and it increases the value of our assets.
    No I don't believe so, The financial thing is quite hard to understand. But a guy on a swedish Juventus forum explained some things quite good. I don't remember everything. But he said that we have 200 million euro budget atm for a season, and a transfer for example of 25 million euros with a 5 year contract of 2,5 million euros. Doesen't mean that the transfer cost us 27,5 million that season. It could be 7,5 million euros that per season because the lengt of the contract. Im not 100 % sure but somethiing like that.

    He also explained that you could sell a player for a certain price, but if you bought him for alot more, it will still have a negative impact on the budget.

    I don't understand it so good, but it's more complex then we think haha.

    The shit we think here is far from reality.

    Example, isla 10 million out, Quagliarella 3, Vucinic 10= 23 mlillion is far from reality :D
    Im sure Marotta will do the same with Berardi also, that we pay it in istallments over 2-3 seasons. This is how we work guys. Could be a reason why we don't get big players from other countries. Im not sure how the big clubs in England, Spain, Germany work, if they can pay it upfront. But we surely don't do it, every transfer I see us do, expect small ones is that we pay it in installmens over some years.

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    We are not going to spend 40 million next year. I don't understand why people think so. They should read info about the transfers on Juventus.com. Pereyra for example im sure I read on juventus.com that if we buy him next year ( we will do that) the deal is paid in 3 installments over 3 years. That means that the first installment is the only one that have an impact on next seasons budget.

    This is how we do most of our deals..
    :tup:

    but for example this year we may still be paying a part of Tevez, Ogbonna and others and next year Morata and cie.
     

    Zacheryah

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    They never put cash in Juve in the Moggi days so he didn what he had to do, sell Zidane, Vieri, Inzaghi, Henry...

    when they finally put cash in we had Secco burn 50m on Diego and Melo.

    Now we're back to the Moggi budget days and can't spend 30m on a player and high wages. For that we need to sell big.
    This is a good point tbh. Peasants forget we sold zidane to fund nedved, buffon, thuram. And that when we bought emerson, vieira, zlatan, that we were top3 in the world financially.

    But apart from that, i've allways remembered Moggi never make outrageous purchases. Back in the early 2000 he was actually criticised for it cause he never spended big

    But most here were in their diapers back then, or have forgotten it

    If we dont get any creative attacking midfielder of quality then, we may have a really difficult time to keeping Vidal and Pogboom next season..

    I just hope Marotta really has a plan with this quality attacking midfielder,else we could be suffering this season..
    Yes, because we only scored 102 points with the same team and without the better bench we are building now
    better get that attacking mid, in case roma scores 103 points !


    Seriously, we have a fantastic squad, and whilst adding a cam/wf is fine, its not mandatory to succeed

    this team was build for conte to get past the QF in the CL last season. Lets see if Allegri can do that instead.

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    No I don't believe so, The financial thing is quite hard to understand. But a guy on a swedish Juventus forum explained some things quite good. I don't remember everything. But he said that we have 200 million euro budget atm for a season, and a transfer for example of 25 million euros with a 5 year contract of 2,5 million euros. Doesen't mean that the transfer cost us 27,5 million that season. It could be 7,5 million euros that per season because the lengt of the contract. Im not 100 % sure but somethiing like that.

    He also explained that you could sell a player for a certain price, but if you bought him for alot more, it will still have a negative impact on the budget.

    I don't understand it so good, but it's more complex then we think haha.

    The shit we think here is far from reality.

    Example, isla 10 million out, Quagliarella 3, Vucinic 10= 23 mlillion is far from reality :D
    Post more in the football section, seriously :tup:
     

    PedroFlu

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    Im sure Marotta will do the same with Berardi also, that we pay it in istallments over 2-3 seasons. This is how we work guys. Could be a reason why we don't get big players from other countries. Im not sure how the big clubs in England, Spain, Germany work, if they can pay it upfront. But we surely don't do it, every transfer I see us do, expect small ones is that we pay it in installmens over some years.

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    We are not going to spend 40 million next year. I don't understand why people think so. They should read info about the transfers on Juventus.com. Pereyra for example im sure I read on juventus.com that if we buy him next year ( we will do that) the deal is paid in 3 installments over 3 years. That means that the first installment is the only one that have an impact on next seasons budget.

    This is how we do most of our deals..
    We always work with installments. This year we paid the last intallments of the likes of Quagliarella, Matri, Pepe, Bonucci, etc. We currently are stacked with installments, we pay like 50M of them every year.

    And we are already filling our bill for the next years. This mercato we already commited 40M for the next years. We won't have much flexibility despite increase in revenues starting next year.
     
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