Wishlist and General Juve mercato talk (2014-15) (20 Viewers)

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Xperd

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Jun 1, 2012
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Apologies.But i have seen you doing this before.I felt you were deliberately doing this time.
But srsly it would be helpful for everybody if ppl can post both the original and translated article in case there's any mistranslations.
 

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Jul 20, 2012
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Apologies.But i have seen you doing this before.I felt you were deliberately doing this time.
But srsly it would be helpful for everybody if ppl can post both the original and translated article in case there is a mistranslation.
Yea I didn't know before that you couldn't post in another language. I'm too lazy to sit here and translate it all for you but I guess I'll give a summary

Bonaventura è da Juve?
"Devo dire che l'Atalanta da sempre è famosa per valorizzare i propri giovani, lo ha fatto anche quest'anno con questi ragazzi, molto interessanti. Però sinceramente noi non abbiamo ancora raccolto alcuna firma"
Question : Bonaventura is a Juve player?

Marotta says: Atalanta is always known for these young talents, and has demonstrated it this season with very interesting players. But we haven't made any signatures.

State lavorando per dare un'alternativa tattica a Conte? Cercate ali per il 4-3-3? Un giocatore come Bonaventura può essere utile?
"Devo dire che il gioco moderno è caratterizzato da più sistemi di gioco, l'importante è che si inculchino i giusti principi di gioco, la giusta motivazione, la giusta mentalità, mentalità vincente per quanto ci riguarda. Poi è chiaro che si va verso un profilo di un giocatore ideale, un giocatore eclettico, che possa ricoprire più ruoli. Questo è quello che noi abbiamo cercato di trovare nel corso di questi anni e chiaramente in questo momento stiamo monitorando le opportunità del mercato".
Question : Are you working to give Conte a different formation? Are you looking for wingers for a 4-3-3? A player like Bonaventura could be useful?

Marotta says: The modern game is made up of different things such as the right movements, the right mentality, the mentality of winning. Then he goes on to talk about a versatile player. We have been looking for these players for these past years and its obvious in this moment we are waiting for an opportunity on the market.

Il 20 aprile le abbiamo chiesto se avesse già acquistato qualche giocatore. Lei rispose: "Può darsi". Possiamo aggiungere qualche dettaglio?
"Il dubbio rimane, il dubbio è il guanciale del saggio dicevano. Quindi evidentemente noi abbiamo lavorato, come è giusto che sia da gennaio. L'anno scorso a gennaio abbiamo chiuso l'operazione Llorente, che poi è arrivato a luglio. Quindi abbiamo lavorato, magari al momento opportuno, quando il campionato è terminato, che il regolamente ci consente anche di affrontare dialetticamente tutte le situazioni, evidentemente saremo un po' più chiari. Però sicuramente lavoriamo".
Question: On the 20th of April we had asked you if you had already purchased a player. Your response was "You could say". Can we ask you for the details?

Marotta says: The doubt remains. It is obvious we have worked since January. Last January we had already closed the deal for Llorente, who arrived in July. We have worked, however at the moment, when the season is finished, all the situations will be clearer. However we are working.

Davids ha consigliato alla Juve Mario Balotelli...
"Balotelli non lo scopriamo certamente oggi, è un ottimo giocatore, c'è solo da dire che è del Milan. Credo sia veramente un percorso quasi utopistico quello di immaginare un trasferimento di Balotelli, in un settore comunque come il nostro che oggi annovera dei giocatori importanti. Credo che Balotelli non sia destinato alla Juventus".
Question: Davids wants Balotelli at Juve

Marotta: Balotelli is a fantastic player, however there is only one thing to say, he is a Milan player. ( Not even going to bother with the rest)

Ma chi è il parametro zero che avete già preso?
"Ma no... (ride, ndr) Erano scherzi...".
Question: Did you already get a free player?

Marotta: No...

Ci dica solo Inghilterra, Spagna o Francia?
"Può darsi che sia una di queste tre nazioni, assolutamente. Però credo che tutte le società, non solo la Juventus, da gennaio si mobilitano per cercare di identificare le opportunità di mercato e quelli che sono i giocatori. Noi lo abbiamo fatto da tempo, lo facciamo e poi quando avremmo un'idea più chiara di quello che ci serve per la stagione futura, andremo a concludere certe operazioni".
Question: I will only say England, Spain or France?

Marotta: You could say that the player is from one of these three nations, absolutely. However I believe that all the clubs not only Juventus have been working to find an opportunity on the market. We have done it for some time, we will do it, and we will have a clearer idea of who we need for the following season, and we will go and close the deal.

La scelta principale può essere un giocatore veloce in grado di saltare l'uomo? Uno come Nani o Hazard?
"Diciamo che i critici hanno sempre indicato in un profilo del genere il giocatore che ci mancava. Chiaramente bisogna anche valutarlo al'interno del modulo tattico. E' chiaro che in un cambiamento di modulo questi tipi di giocatori si adattano di più. Però parliamo di giocatori assolutamente importanti, che hanno esperienza e caratura europea, quindi sarebbero ben graditi dalla Juventus. Questo non significa che abbiamo preso uno o l'altro, significa che sono giocatori importanti e di caratura".
Question: The characteristics of the player could be speed and someone who can pass him marker? Someone like Nani or Hazard?

Marotta: We could say that we have always been lacking a player like that. It is obvious we need to figure out what tactical formation first. In a change of formation we need these players. However if we talk about players who are important, have experience, and have to be of european caliber, that is what we need at Juventus. This doesn;t mean we have bought one or the other, but it means they are important players and of the highest caliber.

C'è stato un grande abbraccio tra lei e Florentino Perez. Avete parlato anche di mercato?
"Devo dire che con Florentino Perez c'è un rapporto di stima reciproca, quindi affettuosamente avete visto questo abbraccio. Ma è un rapporto amichevole, si è parlato di tutto, di poitica, di calcio, di aspetti legati a calciatori, ma a dir la verità ero più io che cercavo giocatori loro che quelli che lui cercava da me. Quindi evidentemente... il rapporto è molto buono e magari più avanti ci ritroveremo per analizzare meglio quelli che potrebbero essere eventuali operazioni".(redazione Tuttojuve.com).
Question : There was a big hug between you and Florentino Perez. Did you talk about the market?

Marotta: Me and Florentino Perez have a good relationship, so of course you would have seen that display. The relationship is friendly, and we have talked about everything, politics, soccer, players, but in all honesty it was me wanting his players as compared to him wanting our players. It is obvious we have a good relationship and hopefully it will help in an operation.


So these are rough translations I didn't feel like translating every word. These are my translations.
 

Mister

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Apr 4, 2014
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Yea I didn't know before that you couldn't post in another language. I'm too lazy to sit here and translate it all for you but I guess I'll give a summary
Sorry guys dint mean to cause confusion . I got that piece from a tweet so its a shorter form , an interview is long . It was like he said balotelli is not juve , nani and hazard can come . Its obvious that the journo's asked him , he would never ever take a name otherwise . It gets too long to get the question and answer , so just a 1 liner was posted , will try and be more specific next time .
 
Jul 20, 2012
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Sorry guys dint mean to cause confusion . I got that piece from a tweet so its a shorter form , an interview is long . It was like he said balotelli is not juve , nani and hazard can come . Its obvious that the journo's asked him , he would never ever take a name otherwise . It gets too long to get the question and answer , so just a 1 liner was posted , will try and be more specific next time .
Np, I posted some better translations.
 
Jul 20, 2012
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So what we could get from this interview is that the idea of change of formation has already occurred. Marotta clearly wants to improve our squad for Europe so I am expecting a good mercato. It seems as though he already has ideas as to who to get.
 

Mister

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Apr 4, 2014
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So what we could get from this interview is that the idea of change of formation has already occurred. Marotta clearly wants to improve our squad for Europe so I am expecting a good mercato. It seems as though he already has ideas as to who to get.
Yes change of tactic , so nani , sanchez , menez , cuadrado being linked .
 

Mister

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Apr 4, 2014
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Exactly but up until this point it was speculation.
Till its official on the juventus website its always speculation , some sources get information through leaks some just make up stories . Nani seems the most credible as of now .Survey for pogba also must have surely happened , suddenly last min if pogba says i want to go , you need to have plan b thats why names like di maria , morata and coentrao . Infact marotta himself mentioned that he has inquired about real madrid players . Its just a casual survey , happens all the time with club officials and agents .
 

Fellas

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Jun 13, 2005
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Keita for 10M :lol:

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Buffon
Barzagli-Bonucci-Chiellini
Lichtsteiner-Vidal-Pirlo-Di María-Coentrão
Tévez-Llorente

:D
If you look at the market Keita for 10 million is a realistic price. He is born 95, and had a good season i Seria A with 4 goals, and showing alot of promise. You know we bought a serie B players 50% for 4,5 million euros (total value 9 million euro) last season, named Berardi. Im not saying Keita is a bigger talent or something. But they could easily get 10 million euros for him, it's a fair price for a very talented youngster. Galliani paid 10 million euros to co-own El Shaarawy after a impresing season with Padova in Serie B. So im not sure why you think it's funny/weird that Keita would go for around 10 million euros.
 

PedroFlu

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Sep 20, 2011
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Marotta has hinted really hard that they're getting someone on Bosman, a well known player, and probably a winger.
In other words... Menez. I can't think of anyone else.

I also believe he'll pull the trigger on Nani. I do believe he'll probably get him for around 7-9M and a 4M salary. Menez wouldn't get less than 2.5M/3M either.
And also as I thought, Gabbiadini is probably coming back, because he can play as a winger, and Immobile will be sold.
Marotta talks a lot about getting guys who can play more than one role. That's exactly where Gabbiadini and Lulic fit.

So, considering Pogba and Conte will stay (which is not certain yet), I believe the board will make an extra effort to get Conte some of the guys he wants.
So this is the likely shape of mercato to me:

Out: Qualiarella (Lazio - exchange for Lulic), Vucinic (Inter - exchange for Ranocchia), Osvaldo (0), Isla (0 - return to Udinese - exchange for some youngster co-own), Motta (2M), Fausto Rossi (1.5M), Peluso (2M), Immobile (10M). I'd say around 15M from sales.

In: Nani (7-9M), Menez (free), Gabbiadini (7M), Pereyra (2/3M co-own + youngsters co-own), Lulic (Quags + 7/9M), Ranocchia (Vuci + 5/7M), De Ceglie (return from loan) plus around 5/8M to co-own of youngsters like Zappacosta, Baselli, Bruno Fernandes. Total spending of around 35M. Net cost of 20M from signings total.

433:

Buffon - Litch, Barza, Bonucci, Chiellini - Vidal, Pirlo, Pogba - Tevez, Nani, Llorente.

Bench: Storari, Caceres, Ranocchia, Ogbonna, Lulic, Padoin, Asamoah, Marchisio, Pereyra, Menez, Giovinco, Gabbiadini (+ De Ceglie and Pepe eventually).
 

AOD4

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Nov 24, 2004
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Yea I didn't know before that you couldn't post in another language. I'm too lazy to sit here and translate it all for you but I guess I'll give a summary



Question : Bonaventura is a Juve player?

Marotta says: Atalanta is always known for these young talents, and has demonstrated it this season with very interesting players. But we haven't made any signatures.



Question : Are you working to give Conte a different formation? Are you looking for wingers for a 4-3-3? A player like Bonaventura could be useful?

Marotta says: The modern game is made up of different things such as the right movements, the right mentality, the mentality of winning. Then he goes on to talk about a versatile player. We have been looking for these players for these past years and its obvious in this moment we are waiting for an opportunity on the market.



Question: On the 20th of April we had asked you if you had already purchased a player. Your response was "You could say". Can we ask you for the details?

Marotta says: The doubt remains. It is obvious we have worked since January. Last January we had already closed the deal for Llorente, who arrived in July. We have worked, however at the moment, when the season is finished, all the situations will be clearer. However we are working.



Question: Davids wants Balotelli at Juve

Marotta: Balotelli is a fantastic player, however there is only one thing to say, he is a Milan player. ( Not even going to bother with the rest)



Question: Did you already get a free player?

Marotta: No...



Question: I will only say England, Spain or France?

Marotta: You could say that the player is from one of these three nations, absolutely. However I believe that all the clubs not only Juventus have been working to find an opportunity on the market. We have done it for some time, we will do it, and we will have a clearer idea of who we need for the following season, and we will go and close the deal.



Question: The characteristics of the player could be speed and someone who can pass him marker? Someone like Nani or Hazard?

Marotta: We could say that we have always been lacking a player like that. It is obvious we need to figure out what tactical formation first. In a change of formation we need these players. However if we talk about players who are important, have experience, and have to be of european caliber, that is what we need at Juventus. This doesn;t mean we have bought one or the other, but it means they are important players and of the highest caliber.



Question : There was a big hug between you and Florentino Perez. Did you talk about the market?

Marotta: Me and Florentino Perez have a good relationship, so of course you would have seen that display. The relationship is friendly, and we have talked about everything, politics, soccer, players, but in all honesty it was me wanting his players as compared to him wanting our players. It is obvious we have a good relationship and hopefully it will help in an operation.


So these are rough translations I didn't feel like translating every word. These are my translations.
Great work buddy.

As always Marotta will do his magic. His interview makes me feel more confident we will have a close to perfect mercato.
 

Lorenzo Juve

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May 4, 2012
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Why bring in Gabbiadini for 7m and sell Immobile for 10mil when it's obvious Ciro is the much better player? We are only looking at a 3mil profit if those are indded the prices they go for. Menez is really average, if he were Italian 99% of posters here would say no, and rightfully so. Ranocchia and De Ceglie? Fuuuuuuuck that. I would be pissed the fuck off if this were our mercato.
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,993
Why bring in Gabbiadini for 7m and sell Immobile for 10mil when it's obvious Ciro is the much better player? We are only looking at a 3mil profit if those are indded the prices they go for. Menez is really average, if he were Italian 99% of posters here would say no, and rightfully so. Ranocchia and De Ceglie? Fuuuuuuuck that. I would be pissed the $#@! off if this were our mercato.
Exactly.
Sellnig our most promising primavera player, top scorer on top of that, makes zero sense.
 

adRHCP

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Nov 7, 2012
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If you look at the market Keita for 10 million is a realistic price. He is born 95, and had a good season i Seria A with 4 goals, and showing alot of promise. You know we bought a serie B players 50% for 4,5 million euros (total value 9 million euro) last season, named Berardi. Im not saying Keita is a bigger talent or something. But they could easily get 10 million euros for him, it's a fair price for a very talented youngster. Galliani paid 10 million euros to co-own El Shaarawy after a impresing season with Padova in Serie B. So im not sure why you think it's funny/weird that Keita would go for around 10 million euros.
Don't tell me you don't know how Lotito is. I think he already made an statemen about Keita's situation and how they want the world for him. At this point I believe it's quite delusional to think that we can get him for that price. It wasn't my intention to make fun of your opinion, I'm sorry if it was like that.
 

AOD4

Senior Member
Nov 24, 2004
3,861
Like Marotta mentioned, once we decide on the tactical setup they will go for the player based on it, and I have a feeling that we will not bring Ciro back. He has so far spoke none of him. I remember when we bring back Giovinco at least there were indication he was going to come back, but not with Ciro.

On another note, bringing back Gabbidiani is a right move. Marotta mentioned on versatility and Gabbidiani is a good fit on top or on the wings.
 

PedroFlu

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Sep 20, 2011
7,166
It makes sense to them.

Apart from Pogba/Vidal Immobile is the one they can sell to get some money.

Conte loves players who are hardworking and can play in more than one position - specially a winger like Gabbiadini.

Everytime Marotta is asked about Immobile, he slips and starts complementing the other youngsters who are co-owned.

I don't agree with this decision, but I'm positive this is the path they are moving right now. Gabbiadini is not that talented, and IMO not a real winger - just a very hardworking guy with good stamina and a great left foot. I don't know how good he could be as a CF though. But IMO Immobile is showing to be much more talented.

I agree that Menez is overrated. Ranocchia is horrible, Lulic is meh... but these are Conte's guys. Just like Peluso for example.
 
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