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Orgut

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Thuram was great as well. Rock solid in defense and he could provide that something extra in the final third. Not Cafu's class, but comes close. Licht, with all due respect for the guy, can't hold a candle to either.

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He's good, better than Licht, but Cafu and Thuram were the best RBs I've witnessed.
I wouldnt say Cafu was better than Thuram..
He was definitely better at attacking but Thuram was definitely the better defender

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Licht can barely beat his man in a 1 vs 1 situation and deliver a decent cross. Cafu on the other hand could.
I really like Licht but comparing him to Cafu makes no sense
 

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Luca

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Just a quick train of thought that has come to me, I apologise for bad expression in advance.

We've not even finished this season but I'm worrying about the next one already.

The team have run the barrel dry on its current style of play and it's pretty easy to see how we are going to get found out right from the off next season. In fact we're crashing into the finish line this season and relying on some of the stellar quality in players we have and some lucky situations.

The problem is that the game we play is too easy to shut down, flood our mid and make sure that our wing backs don't do anything spectacular, which doesn't happen often and happens even less when we tire. To be honest I'm surprised we've got away with it for 3 seasons in Italy, Europe less so.

The good thing is that we have ready made solutions in Berardi, Gabbiadini and Immobile. Beppe really should kick himself if he doesn't return these 3 to the team next season. They offer width, pace, versatility and youthful energy. All things which we have missed this season, and especially with a proportion of the team waning age wise it is a perfect time to refresh things.

And the great thing about this is that it just fits well on top of our system that we already have giving us 3 game plans. Our usual through the middle, up top to Llorente and spreading it wide properly to players who can beat their man and offer some skill. Both Berardi and Gabbiadini remind me of the Muller type player and to have two like that is fap worthy.

Three easy moves that save a load of cash that we can spend on other areas.
 

Gep

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I'm worried about our lethargic approach towards games that's crept in our game. Call it complacency, pussy approach. Either way, I won't be confident start of next season as I was the start of this one I'll tell you that.
 

CrimsonianKing

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Licht can barely beat his man in a 1 vs 1 situation and deliver a decent cross. Cafu on the other hand could.
I cant recall a right sided fullback, that could cover his entire flank so impressive, and made it look easy. Coupled with brazilian flair and dribbeling, strenght, pace, and typically impossible to get past in 1v1, but pretty good in getting past players on technique, strenght and pace himself...

Cafu was perfection. I dont think i've seen a better RB.

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I mean sure, the elderly people will remind us that there was Carlos Alberto, but thats 5 decades ago. Cafu played in the godly 90ties.
Thuram was great as well. Rock solid in defense and he could provide that something extra in the final third. Not Cafu's class, but comes close. Licht, with all due respect for the guy, can't hold a candle to either.

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He's good, better than Licht, but Cafu and Thuram were the best RBs I've witnessed.
Jorginho was more complete than Cafu. A better player overall. I saw both play.
 

JuveJay

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Jorginho was my second favourite player at the 1994 World Cup, but I'd be hard pressed to put him ahead of Cafu. Then again older Brazilians would say Djalma Santos.
 

CrimsonianKing

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Jorginho was my second favourite player at the 1994 World Cup, but I'd be hard pressed to put him ahead of Cafu. Then again older Brazilians would say Djalma Santos.
Jorginho's prime was in the mid 80's to early 90's, unless you saw him play during that time you just saw glimpses of his talents in 94. He gave his all on that WC but Time started to catch up with him. If i recall correctly that's when he left for Japan.
 

Gep

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Cafu ran for fun. Always had that smile. He was a player i always thought "why didn't we steal him from Roma" ffs. It's Roma.

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Mancini never lived up to his hype. Neither did Cicinho.

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Hate to say it but also Inters Zanetti was awesome.
 

JuveJay

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Jorginho's prime was in the mid 80's to early 90's, unless you saw him play during that time you just saw glimpses of his talents in 94. He gave his all on that WC but Time started to catch up with him. If i recall correctly that's when he left for Japan.
I was born in '83 so it wasn't really possible.

Remember Cafu made it into the FIFA team of the 20th century.
 

CrimsonianKing

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I was born in '83 so it wasn't really possible.

Remember Cafu made it into the FIFA team of the 20th century.
:tup: Well, football is all about chance. Jorginho played in a national team that won nothing for years.

Cafu on the other hand has not only played 4 World cups but won 2. In fact he's the only player in the world to have played 3 straight WC finals, that's really something. And well, until some years ago he was still playing, people still remember him. Jorginho is from another era.

On paper, there's no comparison. Cafu had a beautiful career, an epic one. On the pitch, Jorginho was the most technical and skilled player of the two.
 
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