Wishlist and General Juve mercato talk (2013-14) (25 Viewers)

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ZoSo

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No, Beppe got this ID. He's going to get it right, I'm convinced. Just too many factors going for us to fuck this up. We've moved well thus far. I wouldn't fault him for not wanting to pay 30m for Jojo or 35m for Hig either. But I would fault him for spending time going after them if that is the case and it happens to be non-negotiable.

To me, the Tevez deal is what we should be prirotizing. It makes good sense and would be a fair value for money investment. And people who think a 32 year old Tevez will not have good resale value are just mistaken. Not that, that's how we need to be approaching the deal anyway.
I can't agree tbh, hopefully Tevez is the highest chance because he has a low transfer fee. But Beppe is just a shit negotiator imo, even though I depise the bilan fuck, you can't compare him to someone like Galliani as a negotiator, look at his Ibra & Balotelli deals. I seriously doubt he will be able to lower the prices of Jovetic and Higuain considering Fio and RM want 30-35m. None of his deals really seem impressive considering the circumstances. Tevez I really hope we can sign since I think he would easily be the best signing out of those 3 but maybe he will end up renewing his contract for City, so even with him I'm not so optimistic.

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If we were going 63, we should be going Falcao. :D
Cavani is better imo
 

runner0xff

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Feb 15, 2013
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Joking aside if Llorente scores 15 goals I would be more than happy. Looking at his goal matches ratio is enough to see he's not prolific. He'll bring other elements of his play which will be more valuable.
Yeah, you're right, but i said let's hope. =)
I mean, maybe juve is his team. sometimes it happens you know. I mean look at Di Natale stats, when he was in his mid 20's he scored something like 10 goals per season. Now at age 35 he scores almost 30 per season coz he's adjusted to the playstyle of the team he plays for. let's hope llorente will do the same thing.

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now we need a creative striker like higuain to support him. let's see what happends.
LOL higuain is not a creative striker. =) Suarez is.
 
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Joking aside if Llorente scores 15 goals I would be more than happy. Looking at his goal matches ratio is enough to see he's not prolific. He'll bring other elements of his play which will be more valuable.
I am pretty sure he will do much better then 15 goals, assuming he is our main starting center forward. He will get many more chances per game at Juve and he was very very prolific in his last full season in spain, both in the league and Europe. I remember Bilbao beating Manchester United and him playing very well. I think his previous seasons of not scoring were just Bilbao not being competitive and him having to do way too much upfront alone as the target man coming back to chase midfielders and help out when they did not have the ball. Also he seems to have been a bit of a late bloomer .. kinda opposite to Torres in that sense but now he is very prolific hopefully like how Luca Toni started to find the net in his mid to late 20's.

He is hoping for 30 goals!
 

Dadi-SK

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So Higuain seems close to England (City or Arsenal), Jovetic deal has stalled (Chelsea seriously interested) and Tevez looks like the most realistic possibilty if we compete with Milan and no other rich clubs enter a bidding war.
 

Vlad

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Gian

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Joking aside if Llorente scores 15 goals I would be more than happy. Looking at his goal matches ratio is enough to see he's not prolific. He'll bring other elements of his play which will be more valuable.
LOL.

If you look at Llorente´s stats - before this season, he was benched due to contract issues - you can see he scored more than 70 goals in his last 3 seasons. If that's not prolific then I don't know what you mean.

@W
 

Vlad

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LOL.

If you look at Llorente´s stats - before this season, he was benched due to contract issues - you can see he scored more than 70 goals in his last 3 seasons.
I wasn't looking at last season and I'm familiar with reasons of his poor record this year. Looking at his whole career is why it seems unlikely he'll score huge numbers. I hope he's a late bloomer as calciojuventus suggested.
 

runner0xff

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Feb 15, 2013
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No, Beppe got this ID. He's going to get it right, I'm convinced. Just too many factors going for us to fuck this up. We've moved well thus far. I wouldn't fault him for not wanting to pay 30m for Jojo or 35m for Hig either. But I would fault him for spending time going after them if that is the case and it happens to be non-negotiable.

To me, the Tevez deal is what we should be prirotizing. It makes good sense and would be a fair value for money investment. And people who think a 32 year old Tevez will not have good resale value are just mistaken. Not that, that's how we need to be approaching the deal anyway.
When i read your posts i usually agree with you. but not this time. In the circumstances like these we should look for someone like new_suarez or new_jovetic to netherlands or serbia. Juve don't have much money to spend so it will be not very efficient to spend huge sum of money on a player which transfer value will become 0 in a few years from now.

Liverpool signed suarez in 2011 for £22.8 million. Juve signed vucinic in 2011 for €15 million.

We didn't even try to fight for suarez back then!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And this is what pisses me off. So and now instead of working hard and searching for affordable bright young talents like lamela or insigne who are supposed to become new stars, our managers will spend the whole summer to humiliate themselves in a miserable attempts to get a discount for players they cannot buy and to rent another bendtner in the end of the august.

Just tired of this shit. just tired of this...
 

Dadi-SK

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New Sanchez links. We are now moving on to phase two chasing the likes of Sanchez and Suarez after we are probably missing out on Higuain, Jovetic and Tevez. After we realise that Sanchez is a cunt and Suarez is just a wet dream we will focus our transfer activities in Italy (Gilardino and Pazzini).
 

Hist

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Jan 18, 2009
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1. Beppe already did strenghten us with Llorente
- If Llorente was signed for his release clause last summer, 37m, the objective of Beppe signing a 'top player' would already be reached in the eyes of some here. So don't give me that BS, just because he's a bosman doesn't suddenly remove the fact that he is a huge upgrade.

2. If it comes down to no further signings in attack for this summer, we'll have to see what the reasons were. I'd rather not sign anyone than to pay 35m for Higuain, 30m for Jovetic or sign Tevez on a 4 year deal with 7m/year wages after taxes. This is highly implausible, as I'm convinced we're signing Jovetic on favorable terms - but I would definitely rather not sign anyone than to throw too much money at players who just are not worth it.

- Society Prez.
Beppe's announced objective (even after the Llorente deal) is still to bring a top class forward and there is no shortage of those on the market this season. Higuain, Tevez, Jojo, Sanchez, Mario Gomez, David Villa, Cavani, Lewandowski, Suarez, Chicarito are all transferable targets and we do have the budget for atleast one of them strikers.

Suarez, Cavani, Falcao are very difficult to get and thats very understandable but if we end up signing none of the rest while Arsenal signs Higuain or Milan signs Tevez or fiorentina signs Mario Gomez then there is no way to defend Marotta anymore.

We are definitely more attractive than Arsenal, Milan and Viola and we definitely have deeper pockets than them with the exception of Arsenal perhaps (assuming they will uncharacteristically start spending).

Marotta has the more attractive club growth, arguably the more attractive wallet and definitely the more attractive coach than all our competitors who share the same objective (purchasing a top striker) and are after the same players that he is after.

If anything, Milan should be worried we are after Tevez, Arsenal should be worried we are after Higuain, and Fiorentina should be worried we are after Gomez. We have the damn upper hand here! If any of Milan, Arsenal, Liverpool, Fiorentina, or Inter purchase a top striker and we don't then Marotta is definitely a horrible transfer director.
 

ZoSo

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Jul 11, 2011
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If anything, Milan should be worried we are after Tevez, Arsenal should be worried we are after Higuain, and Fiorentina should be worried we are after Gomez. We have the damn upper hand here! If any of Milan, Arsenal, Liverpool, Fiorentina, or Inter purchase a top striker and we don't then Marotta is definitely a horrible transfer director.
All hail the flawless Marotta....
 
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Thats why we should sign Higuain or Lewandowski for 25 .. They will be worth 40 after banging in 30 goals for us next season as opposed to our depreciating forward line!

One interesting player who we might be able to get for less then he is worth would be Hernandez. He is still very young and is a pretty lethal finisher.

The problem with getting cheaper and even younger players is you dont know what you will get or if they will be ready to take a lead role. So it is better to invest in very young talent after you have your starters secured. Higuain, Lew and Hernandez are all 25ish years old so the offer more of a guarantee for performance based their past.

It would not be smart to do what Liverpool did with Borini, he is a decent player but was very unproven given the high fee they paid for him (13m euro). We need a sure thing.
 

rakib567

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Apr 27, 2013
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No, Beppe got this ID. He's going to get it right, I'm convinced. Just too many factors going for us to $#@! this up. We've moved well thus far. I wouldn't fault him for not wanting to pay 30m for Jojo or 35m for Hig either. But I would fault him for spending time going after them if that is the case and it happens to be non-negotiable.

To me, the Tevez deal is what we should be prirotizing. It makes good sense and would be a fair value for money investment. And people who think a 32 year old Tevez will not have good resale value are just mistaken. Not that, that's how we need to be approaching the deal anyway.
Remeber what happend with 34 year old Anelka? investing in old good players isnot good, they might have experience but they won't be as energetic as a young fresh and champions league experienced player like Higuain.
 
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