Wishlist and General Juve mercato talk (2013-14) (42 Viewers)

[Badass J Elkann]

Lol ? read it again.

Matri is worse then pazzini, and not compatible with balotelli.

SES is very young and can grow to a world class player

Tevez is on the decline, but his addicted fans, such as you, still live in the time 3 years ago where he was raping defences. Its time to admit, that those days are over. Not all strikers peak between 29 and 31, some peak earlyer, such as Rooney, Owen, and Tevez.


Its a very bad idea to sell such talent as SES for a decaying player.


Also, SES and Balotelli not functionning, is bullcrap. Its the job of the coach to find out a formation that gets the best out of both, as they are by far milan's best players.

Who says they need to play 4-3-1-2 ? Berlusconi ? he should keep his fat prick mouth shut and let allegri do the tactics

age age age... it's always about age... when will people ever start thinking outside of the box and actually think about the balance and compatibility of the players in question

Tevez and balotelli is far more compatible, balanced and devastating than SES and Balotelli ever will. sure SES may turn into a world class player but not as long as the club have forgotten where his best position actually is, honestly i don't care what berlusconi says or does to his own club, as far as im concerned he knows nothing about football and how it works and it suits me fine.

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El Shaarawy isn't compatible with Balotelli. Something isn't clicking between them.

Tevez + Balotelli would be insane.

Balotelli and Matri could work as well, since Milan plan on reverting to trequartista next season.

yup i just pretty much said that, beat me to it

 

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[Nzoric]

Insigne is better than El Shaarawy IMO.

Sometimes I don't even know if you follow the league.

 

[Salvatore]

Yeah that is nuts Joey.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

If Insigne gets a proper run out next season, he will turn out to have a better season than SES, i'm confident of that.

 

[Mark]

and we havn't signed Tevez yet!

i really hope for our sake milan keep SES he will flop so hard in this 4-3-1-2 there for lose value by the next transfer window, it will be like the 40 mill psg offered for pato only to sell him for a lot less 6 months later

 

[Nzoric]

If Insigne gets a proper run out next season, he will turn out to have a better season than SES, i'm confident of that.

That's pure speculation.

Oh and also, congratulations! You've effectively made me hate another player who I perfectly liked before.

First Ansaldi then Drogba and now Bernard.

 

[Zacheryah]

Tevez + balotelli would be insane, if it was Tevez from 3 years ago. You guys keep forgetting how he is decaying and past his best. He'll only get worse each year.

SeS and balotelli had like what, 3 months ? yeah they didnt click perfectly, but thats not unusual. Its SES first season and suddenly he's paired with a completely diffrent striker that made him change his game a bit

They should be able to work togheter, the coach just needs to figure it out. Just like conte figured out the 3 man mid,the wingbacks, the 3 man defence, etc

 

[Joe]

Sometimes I don't even know if you follow the league.

Yeah that is nuts Joey.

Insigne got half the playing time compared to El Shaarawy. He still put out impressive numbers for being a bench player.

Anyways, just my opinion. Hopefully Insigne gets more playing time next season so we can make a proper analysis.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

That's pure speculation.

Oh and also, congratulations! You've effectively made me hate another player who I perfectly liked before.

First Ansaldi then Drogba and now Bernard.

speculation on the basis that SES doesn't suit the 4-3-1-2 system.

you never even liked Ansaldi.

oh im sure they will be losing sleep over it.

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Tevez + balotelli would be insane, if it was Tevez from 3 years ago. You guys keep forgetting how he is decaying and past his best. He'll only get worse each year.

SeS and balotelli had like what, 3 months ? yeah they didnt click perfectly, but thats not unusual. Its SES first season and suddenly he's paired with a completely diffrent striker that made him change his game a bit

They should be able to work togheter, the coach just needs to figure it out. Just like conte figured out the 3 man mid,the wingbacks, the 3 man defence, etc

Pirlo was 'decaying' for a while before he joined Juve. so what's your point about Tevez?

Conte only picked that system because it suited what we had, thats different to having a system and playing players like SES in it which doesn't work for him.

 

[LiquidPLP]

SES is amazing. We should give them Matri + cash for him.

 

[Zacheryah]

speculation on the basis that SES doesn't suit the 4-3-1-2 system.

you never even liked Ansaldi.

oh im sure they will be losing sleep over it.

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Pirlo was 'decaying' for a while before he joined Juve. so what's your point about Tevez?

Conte only picked that system because it suited what we had, thats different to having a system and playing players like SES in it which doesn't work for him.

Pirlo wasent decaying, he was used in a way that wasent suited for him.

And if you cannot find a way, to let the two biggest italian talents play alongside, then you are a bad coach

 

[Bianconero81]

So when a player you like keeps sucking for a couple of seasons (a la Pirlo @ Milan before we acquired him) it is bad coaching/play not suited to his style, but when a player you dislike doesn't perform he is old, fat, past it, and decayed. Seems legit :notbad:

 

[Buck Fuddy]

Dis thread.

Confirms that buying & selling, for big numbers if possible, is more important than anything else. People just want change for the sake of change.

If we were where we were 3 years ago maybe. It makes more sense to sell him for 40M when you have so many holes to fill. But now? No thanks. We have arguably one hole and that is a top class SS.

If you sell Chiellini to fund the SS, you're just swapping one hole for the other. Strikers are SO overrated in terms of importance. They are a function of the team ultimately. They can be frozen out if your team sucks, defenders can't. A striker is the last piece you look for when you build a team. If your team can create 100% chances game in and game out, you can find someone to put them in the net. Even with our "crap" strikers we led the league in goals.

Add onto this the fact that Chiellini, himself, is of a rare breed nowadays. Not only does he play an important position like CB but he has the capability to actually rise to tremendous occasions to completely shut down top strikers. It is so, so rare to find a CB that can physically pound strikers and keep up with their dribbling in open space. You can put anyone against Chiellini and I won't be scared.

Who else can you say that about? I don't like how pundits and the general football fanbase cannot properly proportion their values of players. Guys who score goals vs. guys who stop goals. What is more rare nowadays? The defender that can match the striker 1 on 1 is extremely rare. Chiellini is worth 60M FFS.

according to melo, Conte asked him to stay but he said no. good fucking riddance

Sounds very credible. We're in dire need of an additional CM.

 

[adRHCP]

So when a player you like keeps sucking for a couple of seasons (a la Pirlo @ Milan before we acquired him) it is bad coaching/play not suited to his style, but when a player you dislike doesn't perform he is old, fat, past it, and decayed. Seems legit :notbad:

 

[Bianconero81]

 

[petersmit]

first of all... stop talking about SES... he won't go to juventus.. he'll get murdered by the milan fans...

second: i'd take Rooney any day of the week and twice on sundays over all our strikers AND over Tevez... think Rooney had a shitty season? 23 goals and 18 assists isn't a bad season

 

[adRHCP]

Some people here bash on Rooney just because he plays in England and he's English. He shits over all of our strikers and over most of the strikers in the world. Has an amazing commitment with his team and plays lots of positions amazingly, he may be not excel as a CF but dominates as a ST and SS, the man can carry a team by himself.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

Pirlo wasent decaying, he was used in a way that wasent suited for him.

And if you cannot find a way, to let the two biggest italian talents play alongside, then you are a bad coach

Thats bs. Pirlo struggled with fitness and injuries in his last year at milan. Please no need to try so hard we know you hate tevez, dont even try and hide it

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So when a player you like keeps sucking for a couple of seasons (a la Pirlo @ Milan before we acquired him) it is bad coaching/play not suited to his style, but when a player you dislike doesn't perform he is old, fat, past it, and decayed. Seems legit :notbad:

Your best post yet

 

[TheLaz]

Nani for 8m pound.. BBBUUUYYYY

 

[Bianco2nero]

Insigne has more talent than ES, has more potential & is less predictable. Sure has ES better stats, he had a good period but the last 4-5 months he was average and every defenders knows him by now. A little bid of an Arjen Robben, but not that good. I would pick Insigne over ES