Wishlist and General Juve mercato talk (2013-14) (45 Viewers)

[zizinho]

i dont think nani will leave for less than 25M with clubs like psg anzhi zenit etc. i dont see us spending so much on a winger

 

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[Badass J Elkann]

never mind the transfer fee, we'll be outdone on the wages alone

 

[zizinho]

if we cant get a superstar striker then better get young talented players from serie a. belfodil, muriel, cuadrado, obiang, regini, quintero, berardi etc. or just give our young players like sorensen, masi, immobile, bouy, boakye, gabbiadini... a chance

 

[Badass J Elkann]

if we cant get a superstar striker then better get young talented players from serie a. belfodil, muriel, cuadrado, obiang, regini, quintero, berardi etc. or just give our young players like sorensen, masi, immobile, bouy, boakye, gabbiadini... a chance

2 of them play in Serie B...

There is nothing special about belfodil, certainly not when Parma wanted 15 mill for him in january which is utterly absurd.

easier said than done to 'give our young players a chance'...

 

[zizinho]

2 of them play in Serie B...

There is nothing special about belfodil, certainly not when Parma wanted 15 mill for him in january which is utterly absurd.

easier said than done to 'give our young players a chance'...

look at bayern... when van gaal was the coach he gave players like alaba, badstuber, muller, contento a chance to play when they were 17-18 years old. they even played in the cl. and today they are starters for the best team in the world. we should try do the same

 

[Vlad]

look at bayern... when van gaal was the coach he gave players like alaba, badstuber, muller, contento a chance to play when they were 17-18 years old. they even played in the cl. and today they are starters for the best team in the world. we should try do the same

Really??

 

[zizinho]

and i think belfodil is much better than muriel.

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Really??

yes.

 

[Vlad]

and i think belfodil is much better than muriel.

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yes.

Contento and Badstuber rarely play. Certainly not starters.

 

[zizinho]

Contento and Badstuber rarely play. Certainly not starters.

contento yes, hes a bench player. badstuber is injured and out for season. before that he regulary started

 

[Enron]

Contento and Badstuber rarely play. Certainly not starters.

Badstuber is one of their best defenders.

 

[zizinho]

Badstuber is one of their best defenders.

exactly

 

[TheLaz]

Really??

Two CL finals in two years and heading for the third... IMO it's a 60/40 between Bayern and Barca with Bayern favorites

 

[zizinho]

Two CL finals in two years and heading for the third... IMO it's a 60/40 between Bayern and Barca with Bayern favorites

and they are even better now than in the last two cl finals. too bad they dont sell any of their players. i would love too see muller or alaba in our team

 

[Vlad]

Two CL finals in two years and heading for the third... IMO it's a 60/40 between Bayern and Barca with Bayern favorites

Two finals in a three years. And yes they've been impressive but the best club in the world. Don't think so. No matter if you look at last 2,3,5 or 100 years.

 

[TheLaz]

Two finals in a three years. And yes they've been impressive but the best club in the world. Don't think so.

Bayern > Barca
Dortmund > Real Madrid
Real Madrid > Barca
Barca > Dortmund
Bayern > Dortmund
Bayern > Real Madrid

= Bayern is best

 

[Vlad]

and they are even better now than in the last two cl finals. too bad they dont sell any of their players. i would love too see muller or alaba in our team

Only player I've ever wanted to see from Bayern was Bastian. Great player and would have probably played here if not for the scandal. Moggi wanted him.
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Bayern > Barca
Dortmund > Real Madrid
Real Madrid > Barca
Barca > Dortmund
Bayern > Dortmund
Bayern > Real Madrid

= Bayern is best

Some weird analogy there. What have Bayern won in Europe recently? I don't like Barca but objectively they've been the best team in the past 5-6 years.
In the last 10 years both Bayern and German NT are definitions of the ultimate choker.

 

[TheLaz]

Only player I've ever wanted to see from Bayern was Bastian. Great player and would be probably played here if not for the scandal. Moggi wanted him here.

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Some weird analogy there. What have Bayern won in Europe recently? I don't like Barca but objectively they've been the best team in the past 5-6 years.
In the last 10 years both Bayern and German NT are definitions of the ultimate choker.

Barca is Barca. But recently it seems they've been studied to a point where they aren't creating chances anymore. This year CL other teams have held them from creating any goals in 90 minutes. Even Celtic won against them (Celtic who we, Juve fans, can relate to).
Ofc it's absurd since I will never win this argument when Barca have Messi and co. All i'm saying is just that this Barca side is no longer unbeatable. And they have been just that for a few years now..

Bayern seems unbeatable and on a level of their own given recent form in Bundes as well.

 

[Vlad]

Barca is Barca. But recently it seems they've been studied to a point where they aren't creating chances anymore. This year CL other teams have held them from creating any goals in 90 minutes. Even Celtic won against them (Celtic who we, Juve fans, can relate to).
Ofc it's absurd since I will never win this argument when Barca have Messi and co. All i'm saying is just that this Barca side is no longer unbeatable. And they have been just that for a few years now..

Bayern seems unbeatable and on a level of their own given recent form in Bundes as well.

I agree they are beatable side now. Milan beat them in the first leg and with a bit more luck they could have been eliminated. All I'm saying Bayern have not been the best European side recently and even if I had to look a way back I would still put 4-5 clubs in front of them.

 

[ALC]

celtic winning against barca doesn't mean anything. they're still the best team.

 

[TheLaz]

I agree they are beatable side now. Milan beat them in the first leg and with a bit more luck they could have been eliminated. All I'm saying Bayern have not been the best European side recently and even if I had to look a way back I would still put 4-5 clubs in front of them.

4-5 sides!?!?!?

This discussion is about whether Barca or Bayern are the best. There's no other then the remaining 4 teams in the CL who you can compare to Bayern. No English teams come close.

celtic winning against barca doesn't mean anything. they're still the best team.

It means they can be beaten by a "small" side.. It means the Ronaldinho+Messi era is over.