Wishlist and General Juve mercato talk (2013-14) (27 Viewers)

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Klin

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May 27, 2009
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Yea and imo thats the most realistic squad we can get for next season.
Which of our forwars would u keep for the bench? Imo we should try to sell both Quag and Matri, buy Berardi as backup for right wing and Bokaye as backup for Llorent. I know its risky, but really if we cant afford WC strikers we have to do what Milan is doing now by giving a chance to talented youngsters.
Llorente, Sanchez, Vucinic, Matri and Giovinco.
 

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petersmit

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what we need is a combination of class and speed... you could see that we have class in the defence and midfield, but we don't have it in the strikers department..

if we have speed we could hit them on the counter and score a goal
if we have class we could hit them even if they are defending
we did none of it against bayern in 180 minutes :(

if we want to defeat a team like bayern and real and such, we need upgrades in class (player that can score even when defenders are in front of him) or speed (the good old counter football)...

if we could buy a player who has both class and speed... we are doing good bussiness
 

Trezegol17

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Nov 1, 2006
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what we need is a combination of class and speed... you could see that we have class in the defence and midfield, but we don't have it in the strikers department..

if we have speed we could hit them on the counter and score a goal
if we have class we could hit them even if they are defending
we did none of it against bayern in 180 minutes :(

if we want to defeat a team like bayern and real and such, we need upgrades in class (player that can score even when defenders are in front of him) or speed (the good old counter football)...

if we could buy a player who has both class and speed... we are doing good bussiness
If we get suarez without class i would be very happy :D
 

Badass J Elkann

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Feb 12, 2006
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the way we played against celtic was equal with capello's juve was in europe, I didn't see the games against bayern but consider this : fucking arsenal with much weaker 'defense & team organization' nearly knocked them out at their home and scored total 3 goals against them; while we made look like celtic against bayern... dunno about you but for me that's totally unacceptable for many reasons.

double regista, hi there hello bonucci?

a void vidal place? asamoah says hello? still don't get this? I've voiced this exact thought before, we could always buy CMs, they are a plenty

people must realize that this season our 3-5-2 often, too oftenly, failed against decent teams even in serie a due to it's tactical setup and kind of players we have

we often could surround opposition defenses but lacked more than just ideas on the final third, we lack good technical move from players than could penetrate, lack good touch plays that needed to open spaces...

pirlo's long balls only sporadically worked and even then it too often failed because the receivers are too limited technically to bring the ball further forward, I'd prefer pogba deployed as amc for that.

marchisio went to his younger days casper mode this season while vidal is way too muscle oriented while going forward, he lack attacking techniques fir building attacks or penetrating

this mvp has dwindled down faster that I thought before

something like pogba vidal supporting isco as an amc certainly much better than our mvp at this point, slightly worse defense but much better at attack, midfield wise.

and the wing backs.... omg lol, they offered little to nothing in attack, not to mention that they can't work in europe against teams that use multiple wide players

and then our beloved forwards lol, anyone think that llorente alone is actually an improvement we should get excited about is stupid.
did real madrid play catenaccio too against galatasaray because they let them have the ball and hit them on the counter? seriously stop it you have no clue to tactics, we have never played catenaccio under Conte.

bonucci is not a regista :sergio: something called a ball playing defender, doesn't make him a regista.

asamoah to replace Vidal in midfield? :howler:

ok i can't be fucked to read the rest of your post it has idiocy stamped all over it

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apparently we have made approx. 55M Euros from our CL campaign this year.
dayummmm marotta can now buy a whole load of Padoins and Diamanti's
 

deggen10

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Not sure why he was subbed (Verratti). Watching bits and pieces... he played well and they were desperate for a goal... then Beckham comes on. Looked like it was in Beckham's contract to play a part in every CL game or something.
 

Vlad

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May 23, 2011
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If we get suarez without class i would be very happy :D
Suarez is an amazing player. Exactly what we need. Llorente Suarez combo would be devastating.

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VERATTI !!! Try your hardest to bring him here Beppe.
I doubt PSG will sell him given the fact he played very well this season.

Buffon
Lichtsteiner Barzagli Bonucci Chiellini
Marchisio Pogba Vidal
Sanchez Llorente Vucinic

What I expect next season apart from the formation. We obviously need better for Europe though.
One of them could play. We would need some defensive minded winger like Camoranesi was to play this way. Also Chiellini in Bonucci's position and some proper LB who can actually put some decent cross while not not forgetting his defensive duties.
 

baggio

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Jun 3, 2003
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I do t think the team will be adversely affected, if we spend our entire budget on Suarez. And bring in youngsters for roles as backups. Marrone, Sorensen etc.
 

Bianconero81

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Jan 26, 2009
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Well, last night showed we are far from being a European force. We can dominate and shit all we want on Serie A opposition, and that is because Serie A is a weak league, behind the likes of the EPL, La Liga, and the Bundesliga. Next year teams like Bayern, Madrid, and Barca will further strengthen their ranks, and the likes of Chelsea, City, PSG, and United will be back and hungrier than before. If we fail to strengthen, we might not even make it to the QFs, as if you stay the same you are only falling behind, as the only constant is change.

Whereas the likes of Madrid, Barca, and even Bayern and to a certain extent Dortmund have "Hollywood Blockbuster" type attacks, ours is merely a straight to video release attacking unit. The gulf in class and quality is all to evident. Gio isn't good enough, and both Matri and Quag might cut it against local opposition, and the lesser teams in Europe, but are way out of their league against top notch opponents. Iaquinta, Bendtner, and Anelka are surely out the door come summer time, and the only one with a semblance of quality, Vucinic, is too inconsistent to be anything but a bench option come next season. I'd overhaul our entire forward line, selling them all if the opportunity arose, but we all know that isn't going to happen.

Hence, we need to focus on getting to Bayern's level within the next 3-5 years, and the way we do that is by adding quality every single season. No need to waste funds on the likes of Diamanti and Osvaldo. Buy a quality SS, search for exciting youth talents, and keep building a solid quality unit. We will obviously need fillers in the squad, but at present we have a lot of bench/squad players, and insufficient quality, especially in attack.

We are covered when it comes to defense and midfield, with the exception of a few minor tweaks. If we can get a quality LWB, go for it. A backup CB and CM are required, but not a priority. The biggest investment must be reserved for the SS position. I feel that with a new SS (preferably a versatile one), and Llorente, we will be able to mount a more significant challenge next season.

Moreover, we seem to lack a plan B. We always seem lost/confused when things don't go our way. Hence, versatile quality players are a requirement, guys who are able to adapt and adjust depending on the circumstances, and possibly cover more than one position.

Marotta's comments don't inspire nor instill confidence in me. However, I will reserve judgement until the summer mercato is over. However, he doesn't strike me as a winner, as he has never managed a big club in his entire career, and was never a star player (or played at a big club). Hence, the expectations and mechanisms/mechanics of operating at a big club might be overwhelming for him. He might turn out to be a Ranieri style sporting Director; good enough to build/assemble a solid unit, but not good enough to give us that extra push/take us to the next level. Nonetheless, he has the summer to prove me and other detractors wrong. Only time shall tell whether he is cut for a club like Juventus, or whether it is time to hand the reins to someone else.
 

Dominic

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Jan 30, 2004
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How about a mix of Conte's 4-3-3 and 3-5-2?

Buffon
Barzagli Bonucci Chiellini
Lichtsteiner Vidal* Marchisio* Asamoah
Sanchez Vucinic
Llorente

*Pogba or Pirlo
 

Roman

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Apr 19, 2003
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Suarez is an amazing player. Exactly what we need. Llorente Suarez combo would be devastating.

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I doubt PSG will sell him given the fact he played very well this season.


One of them could play. We would need some defensive minded winger like Camoranesi was to play this way. Also Chiellini in Bonucci's position and some proper LB who can actually put some decent cross while not not forgetting his defensive duties.
For example?
 
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