Wishlist and General Juve mercato talk (2012-13) (40 Viewers)

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PedroFlu

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Sep 20, 2011
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The thing is, Juve needs more than a starting 11. With the Champions League and Italian Cup, Licht may not be a top 11 player, but Juve needs a strong top 20! ANd he's just fine there.

That said; someone offers 20 million, you take it!
We have 2 positions left to fill in the starting team. It's more important than keeping a good rotation player, I guess. For 17M I'd do it - IF the money will be reverted to Jovetic (30M) and Armero (5 co-own) - considering he already have 18M.
 

PiN7uRiCCHi0

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We have 2 positions left to fill in the starting team. It's more important than keeping a good rotation player, I guess. For 17M I'd do it - IF the money will be reverted to Jovetic (30M) and Armero (5 co-own) - considering he already have 18M.
Stephan is not a 'good rotation player'.

He's the first-choice right-back in the 4-3-3 formation, will compete with Isla over the right-midfilder position in 3-5-2 and offers solid backup option for the central defence.

Also, bear in mind Juventus will be playing every three days. Fitness is the thing that will be of paramount importance.
 

I am John

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Stephan is not a 'good rotation player'.

He's the first-choice right-back in the 4-3-3 formation, will compete with Isla over the right-midfilder position in 3-5-2 and offers solid backup option for the central defence.

Also, bear in mind Juventus will be playing every three days. Fitness is the thing that will be of paramount importance.
:agree:
 

PedroFlu

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Stephan is not a 'good rotation player'.

He's the first-choice right-back in the 4-3-3 formation, will compete with Isla over the right-midfilder position in 3-5-2 and offers solid backup option for the central defence.

Also, bear in mind Juventus will be playing every three days. Fitness is the thing that will be of paramount importance.
Conte doesn't look like he intends to use 433 a lot. He tried Litch and even Marrone as CBs just in order to keep the scheme. Isla is a winger, that's why he was signed. Litch is not a winger and played poorly in this position last season.

He's important for the squad, but isn't considered a starter anymore. Selling him could provide 2 good players in terms of rotation - Armero, freeing Asamoah to rotate in the middle - and the CF.

And as I said, if this can be done to get Jovetic, do it. This kid has amazing intelligence and creativity, what will be very important when Pirlo starts dropping his performances.

Litch is an important player for the squad and I like him. But if the outcome is Armero and Dzeko/Jovetic, it's worth it. You win more than you lose.
 

HAZEM

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Conte doesn't look like he intends to use 433 a lot. He tried Litch and even Marrone as CBs just in order to keep the scheme. Isla is a winger, that's why he was signed. Litch is not a winger and played poorly in this position last season.

He's important for the squad, but isn't considered a starter anymore. Selling him could provide 2 good players in terms of rotation - Armero, freeing Asamoah to rotate in the middle - and the CF.

And as I said, if this can be done to get Jovetic, do it. This kid has amazing intelligence and creativity, what will be very important when Pirlo starts dropping his performances.

Litch is an important player for the squad and I like him. But if the outcome is Armero and Dzeko/Jovetic, it's worth it. You win more than you lose.
i doubt that.
 

baggio

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Jun 3, 2003
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Conte doesn't look like he intends to use 433 a lot. He tried Litch and even Marrone as CBs just in order to keep the scheme. Isla is a winger, that's why he was signed. Litch is not a winger and played poorly in this position last season.

He's important for the squad, but isn't considered a starter anymore. Selling him could provide 2 good players in terms of rotation - Armero, freeing Asamoah to rotate in the middle - and the CF.

And as I said, if this can be done to get Jovetic, do it. This kid has amazing intelligence and creativity, what will be very important when Pirlo starts dropping his performances.

Litch is an important player for the squad and I like him. But if the outcome is Armero and Dzeko/Jovetic, it's worth it. You win more than you lose.
Dzeko/Llorente & Armero are possible anyway, even without this sale.
 

PedroFlu

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I'm not sure about that. It's hard to know. I don't think they are. 'Cause at least Armero or freakin Peluso would have already been bought. It doesn't look like there's much left, tbh.
 

baggio

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We have an agreement with Peluso and Atalanta but why do you think that deal is on hold? I think its because we are trying to find middle ground ith Udine for Armero. And personally, the same goes for Llorente, I think he's a backup signing, incase we fail on Dzeko at the death. I expect Shitty to move next week, and we might see a very dynamic last ten days.
 

PedroFlu

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It makes sense, but we don't even know if City is looking for a striker. They are stuck with Santa Cruz and Adebayor, and Mancini is complaining about a midfielder.

But yeah, it's a possibility. But it's not a guarantee we have money, though, even if this is all strategy.

As I said before, creative players are very rare nowadays. With Pogba and Jovetic we would be set in terms of creativity for years. I'd sacrifice Litch to get Jovetic. But it's only me, and if he's sold there's no guarantee this would happen. Actually I don't think Marotta would do it :(
 

Bianconero81

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??? An upgrade for the LB/LWB position and a key signing in attack at the expense of our starting RB (but only a backup in the primary 3-5-2 formation), and you are doubting it :shifty: It's an obvious improvement, a compromise the club should be willing to take if the conditions are right.

I'd definitely keep Litch, as I see him as being a fundamental member of this team (and potentially better in a back 3 than Lucio). However, in the face of an offer of 20+ Million, I wouldn't hesitate to sell him.

Llorente + Armero + Jovetic in return for sacrificing Licht is well worth it.
 

baggio

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Dzeko + Armero + JoJo. Highly doubt Marrotta will pull off JoJo 'at his terms' in the last week. Even with a bit of cash though. Too risky to sell licht IMO.
 

HAZEM

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Apr 22, 2008
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??? An upgrade for the LB/LWB position and a key signing in attack at the expense of our starting RB (but only a backup in the primary 3-5-2 formation), and you are doubting it :shifty: It's an obvious improvement, a compromise the club should be willing to take if the conditions are right.

I'd definitely keep Litch, as I see him as being a fundamental member of this team (and potentially better in a back 3 than Lucio). However, in the face of an offer of 20+ Million, I wouldn't hesitate to sell him.

Llorente + Armero + Jovetic in return for sacrificing Licht is well worth it.
i didn't doubt that.. i know this would be great improvement. my doubts is signing this players you said even if we sell Licht cause simply it's not about money to sign Dzeko/Llorente its about Marotta who can't sign this guys i guess.

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we aren't short of money and even if we are.. then go sell the unwanted players like Quag or Matri and sign this top striker but not to sell the needed right back we have.. we are talkin' about Armero and Dzeko/Llorente. this is not a lot of money and if so why Marotta didn't sell Matri or Quag ?!

just don't sell Licht cause this is would be a silly move.
 

David01

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Aug 20, 2006
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I almost wished I was a ManU- fan
they are debating what formation to use now that they have signed Kagawa and RVP
and here we are debating Pazzini, Llorente and selling? Licht.

well at least we have a formation to play with:sergio:
then again they are still Manure and we are JUVE
 

baggio

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Jun 3, 2003
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Guys this Licht thing is becoming quite serious apparently. His entourage/agents just spoke about PsG being a great club, Paris being a great city and he would love to move there if the chance arose. He thinks it's a great project and Ancellotti is a great coach. However he's extremely happy at Juve too, with the project. Dunno what to make of this. And the figure doing the rounds is 15m. That'll be a real shame coz it won't be enough to get us JoJo either, so it'll just probably be pocketed by the club or shelled out on Armero/Kolarov on a co-own, outright purchase. To complement the CF arrival. I'd be gutted if this were to happen. Really don't want to lose Licht and not for friggin 15m.
 

LiquidPLP

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Jun 9, 2012
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I agree with baggio. We shouldn't sell Lichtsteiner. Last season he was one of our best players and he's really got right mentality to be a juventino. I think 15m is ridiculous considering we paid for him 10m and he's after a great season. I wouldn't sell him even if that means no Dzeko or Llorente.
 
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