Wishlist and General Juve mercato talk (2011-12) (73 Viewers)

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Tak!

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Jun 23, 2011
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the gut should be he is italian and therefore he is underrated
meh in my opinion italian players are being underrated these days
instead young players from other countries get very high values when sometimes they don't deserve it
i agree that there are some italian players that are just as bad as they look lol
if i would point an italian talent i would say insigne too bad he is napolis player

and i am not italian

what would you have bought instead of borrielo ?
If I had to chose between (a) keeping Toni and not signing Boriello. (b) signing Bori getting rid of the deadwood (c) getting rid of deadwood and not signing new deadwood. I'd chose c every time. With a gun to my face and having o chose from a to b I'd pick a.
I believe you definitely have a point. Every player from South America is overrated before they come to europe. Italian teams, football and players in serie-a are underrated worldwide. I will however still argue that italian players are almost always overrated nowadays. Not as much as English players but not that far away. (lol @ Henderson and Carroll for instance) About who I would have signed I don't know. There are no WC players available in january mercato (Tevez a side) so I wouldn't sign anyone until next summer. I don't believe in wasting money for the sake of it.
 

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Gerd

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Dec 25, 2011
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also for behrami i think he'll be taken as a substitube for middfield if we buy him and than we go for caceres if we go for guarin than we go for bochetti so it is something like this

palombo/behrami/naingolan and caceres unless they keep his price fixed at 11 mil we get bochetti
guarin and bocheti
 

Gerd

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Dec 25, 2011
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If I had to chose between (a) keeping Toni and not signing Boriello. (b) signing Bori getting rid of the deadwood (c) getting rid of deadwood and not signing new deadwood. I'd chose c every time. With a gun to my face and having o chose from a to b I'd pick a.
I believe you definitely have a point. Every player from South America is overrated before they come to europe. Italian teams, football and players in serie-a are underrated worldwide. I will however still argue that italian players are almost always overrated nowadays. Not as much as English players but not that far away. (lol @ Henderson and Carroll for instance) About who I would have signed I don't know. There are no WC players available in january mercato (Tevez a side) so I wouldn't sign anyone until next summer. I don't believe in wasting money for the sake of it.
personally don't think that borrielo is deadwood he'll be useful in my opinion
tell me an italian player that has a value that he doesn't deserve
 

baggio

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Jun 3, 2003
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Behrami will not come in Jan. Marrotta will make a 25m bid for him in June once we qualify for the Champions League. And when the press will ask him about rumours of Nani, Higuain and Jovetic, he will talk about how their salary demands and costs were well out of our budgets. He will then clarify how Behrami only wanted a kennel down the road and three hamburgers a week instead of Cristiano Ronaldo's diamonds.
 

Gerd

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Behrami will not come in Jan. Marrotta will make a 25m bid for him in June once we qualify for the Champions League. And when the press will ask him about rumours of Nani, Higuain and Jovetic, he will talk about how their salary demands and costs were well out of our budgets. He will then clarify how Behrami only wanted a kennel down the road and three hamburgers a week instead of Cristiano Ronaldo's diamonds.
i hope you really don't believe that
i really think that next year there will be money for a big signing but if there isn't any money i wouldn't be surprised for a team that has -90 loses
 

baggio

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i hope you really don't believe that
i really think that next year there will be money for a big signing but if there isn't any money i wouldn't be surprised for a team that has -90 loses
Ok, lets just put it this way, I don't trust Marrotta. I think he needs Parental Guidance. :)
 

baggio

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that's what we have AA for
this january he is not giving talks about his deals and that is a step forward
Sure, AA, AC and we can try on our PC to stop him. But he's a man whose probably looking at Roberto Acquafresca to replace Alessandro Del Piero, and singing Hungry Eye while he's at it.
 

baggio

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Yes. Aguero. Dzeko. Rossi. Higuain. The only thing that's common with those names is his failure to sign each one of them. I'm sure an argument can be made about the circumstances under how each of them were lost. But we never asked him to make us any promises. He's out of his depth. And needs a desk job at a bank where he can do what he likes best, offer loan deals to people.
 

Gerd

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Yes. Aguero. Dzeko. Rossi. Higuain. The only thing that's common with those names is his failure to sign each one of them. I'm sure an argument can be made about the circumstances under how each of them were lost. But we never asked him to make us any promises. He's out of his depth. And needs a desk job at a bank where he can do what he likes best, offer loan deals to people.
lol but you said that he will try to replace ADP with aquafresca like he doesn't look at big players
and he actually failed but we lost aguero dzeko to man city you cannot compete with them with money unless you're name is barcelona and all players want to come at you and refuse the money
 

Cronios

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Jun 7, 2004
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the gut should be he is italian and therefore he is underrated
meh in my opinion italian players are being underrated these days
In Italy????? Get real!
In Italy they are as overrated as a football player can ever be. There are other countries with these nationalistic pride, but hardly can anyone ever go as far as the Italians.
Esp in Juve we have a long history of providing the NT with many players and take pride of this.
Lately we have been signing anything with 2 legs ant NT caps (Molinari, Iaquinta, Legro, Motta, Bonucci, Grosso, Toni, Quaq, Aquilani, Pepe, etc now Boriello) or chances to get (Molinaro, Amauri, Candevra, Giaccherini etc)
we have the habit at overpaying for them and giving them more opportunities than we should.
No other team we have paid the fees we paid for them and no other team of our level/status would give so many chances to mediocrity and suffer to its performances for nationalistic reasons...
 

Tak!

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Jun 23, 2011
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personally don't think that borrielo is deadwood he'll be useful in my opinion
tell me an italian player that has a value that he doesn't deserve
I'm guessing Bochetti is. Others: Boriello, Matri was overpriced, Bonucci, Canini, Bonera (always been although now people have realized how bad he is) Ranocchia, Astori, Antonini, Montolivo, Aquilani, Pazzini, and so on. Most of the italians from the new generation. I'm not saying these players are useless but that they are overrated. Internationally rather average. Of course there are some underrated players like Cossu but most italian players are overpriced IMHO.
 
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