Wishlist and General Juve mercato talk (2011-12) (50 Viewers)

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Cronios

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Jun 7, 2004
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i doubt our budget is 50 milion i would say around 30-40 pluse the money from sales

giovinco 7 at least unless we bring him home krasic 10 melo is doing very very good in turkey and fenerbace said that if gallatasaray didn't want him we are ready to take him so he will most probably be sold from 10-13 quaglia at least 8 elia if he doesn't convince conte althrough i hope he does at least 8 we could even sell him much more he is very appreciated in some places so we could even make more money than what we bought him half giac 2 milion zigler 3-4 milion

all in all some estimates


krasic 10
melo 10 (we could even get the full 13)
giovinco 7
quglia 8
giac 2
zigler 4
motta 2
elia at least 8

total = 51 milion

we get
borrielo 8
caceres 6
jovetic/lavezzi 30
palombo 4
lb cissokho or the one of your choice not more than 10
higuain 25
astori 0

total = 83 milion

83 - 51 = 32 milion and you have a pretty good team in my opinion

vucinic jovetic pepe and i would bring back pasquato as wings
matri higuain borrielo as forwards
pirlo marchisio vidal palombo pazienza and gabriel if conte wants to give him faith at pirlo's place if not than
we sell pazienza 4-5 and get pizarro around the same price or montolivio for less
pizarro has some physical problems and i am not very fond of montolivio but they would both be good for the bench althrough monty would be better cause pizarro in 2 years would need to be replaced and with monto in 2 years you can surely make a profit
lischt cissokho with caceces chiellini as replacements chiellini bonucci barzagli astori as cb
buffon storari as keepers
Every year we spend about 50mil, it feels like 30 because we prefer quantity over quality and about 10mil are lost in minor deals.
Considering Marotta's horrible selling skills, its safe to conclude that we will only make about 30-40% of the transfer value of the players we will sell.
This has been the case since he took over from Secco.
With Fiorentina since calciopoli we have a special relationship, it almost feels like we are their sponsor, as we gift them starters and are paying fees that no one else would for unproven players who will end up as the flops of the season.
So i have modest and realistic exceptation of what we can expec, considering the past 6 season as a quide...
 

Gerd

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Dec 25, 2011
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Every year we spend about 50mil, it feels like 30 because we prefer quantity over quality and about 10mil are lost in minor deals.
Considering Marotta's horrible selling skills, its safe to conclude that we will only make about 30-40% of the transfer value of the players we will sell.
This has been the case since he took over from Secco.
With Fiorentina since calciopoli we have a special relationship, it almost feels like we are their sponsor, as we gift them starters and are paying fees that no one else would for unproven players who will end up as the flops of the season.
So i have modest and realistic exceptation of what we can expec, considering the past 6 season as a quide...
just a little in defending of marotta (i still think that he needs to prove that he is juve material so i am not a defender of marotta but what needs to be said needs to be said)

when blanc-secco came to juve the situation was bad we where in serie b and the first year we had very little income due to being in serie b and no champions
but we had a lot of reserve budget and there was the capital that was added don't remember the sum now
when we came to serie a blanc-secco had a big part of the team that had won before calcopoli and they were still able to win there were del piero camoranesi nedved buffon trezeguet that were still able to be decisive in serie a and with good signins we could have won after that we made bad decisions diego (althrough a lot of people were happy he was coming i was one of them cause he was chosen as best midfielder in bundes for 2 years in a row) amauri iaquinta melo and many others also to all this players we offered faraonic salarys (and that's even to the fact that after calcopoli our team was not very prefered so you without those salarys you couldn't get some players) still all of them proved to be failures that means that blanc-secco were wrong we did very good to let them go

when marotta came to juve that was the worst situation that our team had ever been at even moggi has said that
as our president AA has said many times we had one of the highest salarys of europe and for a team that doesn't play CL that is suicidal
and we also had a lot of players who when marotta came were not useful anymore like trezeguet who apart from hercules than went to arabia and now to river plate and camoranesi who whenever i see him on the tv is because he has beaten somebody and the likes of diego who was a flop amauri melo iaquinta ect and even del piero that after the ranieri years was not the the one of the past
and had no material to build the squad so quantity was needed you can't make a squad from nothing you need players to form the base and we didn't have them we didn't have a squad that needed only 2-3 good signings to be competitive that was blanc-secco case at wich they failed marotta had no squad at all so we needed a base to be formed and we have done that this year and now in next summer mercato marotta must prove that he is juve material if he does a good job he can stay if not he can go to

and who says that marotta has done a bad job selling players ?
as i said when he came the situation was bad
he sent of legends of the past that were not useful to the cause anymore like
trezeguet
camoranesi
than players like
thiago
diego
melo (hopefully we will sell him to galatasaray and if we sell him for 13 we would have even made a profit)

he hasn't sold amauri but i guess it is his fault that he has a 3.2 milion salary when he doens't deserve it and nobody wants amauri with that salary
i guess it's his fault that iaquinta is injured all the time


he has made mistakes like martinez and motta his only real mistakes but everybody does them
i don't consider toni a mistake since he came at 0

but we must also thank him for
matri
quaglia
vucinic
lichsteiner
pirlo
vidal
barzagli

so i would wait until the next summer mercato to judge marotta
 

tosh_rose

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Aug 21, 2010
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So, Caceres and Pizzaro will be Juve players in 48 hours... Meeting tomorrow for Martin, if everything goes to plan the deal would be sealed. On Wednesday meeting for David for the final details... Fingers crossed!
 
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