Wishlist and General Juve mercato talk (2011-12) (25 Viewers)

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Itztli

'Curious'
May 12, 2011
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I guess in your dream world, we buy the players you want, despite some may not fit the formation, and everything will be sunshine & fine.





Yet, I still believe you'd complain & proven to be "right".
 
Apr 19, 2007
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What about Aly Cissokho I heard he said he wants to leave Lyon but he said I reckon I prefer england. Doesnt sound like he has to go there and I think he would mak our team alot stronger as he would add attack and defense with Chiellini back at CB
 

Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
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I guess in your dream world, we buy the players you want, despite some may not fit the formation, and everything will be sunshine & fine.
Yet, I still believe you'd complain & proven to be "right".
Despite trying so hard to be an attention whore, i dont know you as well, as you think that you know me.
But since you are new here and you dont really know me, i ll tell you this, i m not what they accused me to be.
Just because other ppl say smth about me, it doesnt mean that i said it. I do not care for forum popularity, i call them as i see them, even if they look positive or negative.
Ppl are trying to present me as a negativist and try to put words and views in mouth, there are many cases that i had a positive opinion about a possible transfer move, like Licht. But ppl just keep the criticism, because it is easier to dismiss me if they say i m always a negativist, instead of someone who is filtering our choices and not just hoping for the best, always!
 

Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
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It's not that you haven't ever said anything positive about Licht. Your conspiracy theories about our nationalist board and immediate complaining whenever we are linked with an Italian player is bloody idiotic. You have a negative attitude towards everything before a move is materialized, and if that move fails later on you immediately spring up and say "I TOLD YOU SO". If you say "this sucks" to everything, some of it is bound to be true.
 

Itztli

'Curious'
May 12, 2011
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Despite trying so hard to be an attention whore, i dont know you as well, as you think that you know me.
But since you are new here and you dont really know me, i ll tell you this, i m not what they accused me to be.
Just because other ppl say smth about me, it doesnt mean that i said it. I do not care for forum popularity, i call them as i see them, even if they look positive or negative.
Ppl are trying to present me as a negativist and try to put words and views in mouth, there are many cases that i had a positive opinion about a possible transfer move, like Licht. But ppl just keep the criticism, because it is easier to dismiss me if they say i m always a negativist, instead of someone who is filtering our choices and not just hoping for the best, always!
Fuck it, it's like arguing with a brick wall.
 

AndreaCristiano

Nato, Vive, e muore Italiano
Jun 9, 2011
19,125
It's not that you haven't ever said anything positive about Licht. Your conspiracy theories about our nationalist board and immediate complaining whenever we are linked with an Italian player is bloody idiotic. You have a negative attitude towards everything before a move is materialized, and if that move fails later on you immediately spring up and say "I TOLD YOU SO". If you say "this sucks" to everything, some of it is bound to be true.
THIS^^^ OMG THIS^^^^
 

Itztli

'Curious'
May 12, 2011
3,302
It's not that you haven't ever said anything positive about Licht. Your conspiracy theories about our nationalist board and immediate complaining whenever we are linked with an Italian player is bloody idiotic. You have a negative attitude towards everything before a move is materialized, and if that move fails later on you immediately spring up and say "I TOLD YOU SO". If you say "this sucks" to everything, some of it is bound to be true.
And when anyone comes with evidence that proves otherwise, he'll say about how its fabricated & that he's right. I wonder if we won the CL, I put money on the table he'd complain on how we done it.
 

Gerd

Senior Member
Dec 25, 2011
5,955
In the past 6 years, regardless of needed or not, we keep spending our budget on new SSs and CMs, so it doesnt matter who we bring, our board will find a way to keep this trend. Even if we make the Boriello and Pizarro/ Montolivo loans permament moves in June, it is safe to conclude that our transfer budget will be spent mostly on new SS (Jovetic) and CM (Montolivo/De Rossi?)

Our transfer budget will be about 50mil, minus the sum we will spend for the SS and the CM, plus the cash made of the sales, like Giovinco (3?) Melo (5mil?), Quaq (6?) Krasic (7?)
i doubt our budget is 50 milion i would say around 30-40 pluse the money from sales

giovinco 7 at least unless we bring him home krasic 10 melo is doing very very good in turkey and fenerbace said that if gallatasaray didn't want him we are ready to take him so he will most probably be sold from 10-13 quaglia at least 8 elia if he doesn't convince conte althrough i hope he does at least 8 we could even sell him much more he is very appreciated in some places so we could even make more money than what we bought him half giac 2 milion zigler 3-4 milion

all in all some estimates


krasic 10
melo 10 (we could even get the full 13)
giovinco 7
quglia 8
giac 2
zigler 4
motta 2
elia at least 8

total = 51 milion

we get
borrielo 8
caceres 6
jovetic/lavezzi 30
palombo 4
lb cissokho or the one of your choice not more than 10
higuain 25
astori 0

total = 83 milion

83 - 51 = 32 milion and you have a pretty good team in my opinion

vucinic jovetic pepe and i would bring back pasquato as wings
matri higuain borrielo as forwards
pirlo marchisio vidal palombo pazienza and gabriel if conte wants to give him faith at pirlo's place if not than
we sell pazienza 4-5 and get pizarro around the same price or montolivio for less
pizarro has some physical problems and i am not very fond of montolivio but they would both be good for the bench althrough monty would be better cause pizarro in 2 years would need to be replaced and with monto in 2 years you can surely make a profit
lischt cissokho with caceces chiellini as replacements chiellini bonucci barzagli astori as cb
buffon storari as keepers
 

Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
27,519
It's not that you haven't ever said anything positive about Licht. Your conspiracy theories about our nationalist board and immediate complaining whenever we are linked with an Italian player is bloody idiotic. You have a negative attitude towards everything before a move is materialized, and if that move fails later on you immediately spring up and say "I TOLD YOU SO". If you say "this sucks" to everything, some of it is bound to be true.
I did not say that Dzeko would suck, said Toni would.
Is it my fault that we bough Toni instead of Dzeko??

I did not said that that Tevez and Higuain are bad players, but Boriello is a complete waste of resources, is it my fault that we bought him?
Is it my fault that we get the worse choices there are?


Is it my fault that we have priorised the acquisition of a new CM and SS over the acquisition of a new LM, LB and CB for the 13th consecutive time???
For 6 years i m saying that we need a LB starter more than we need a SS sub, is it my fault that we are keep spending most of our budget to bring expensive SSs, even as subs and free/0,5 mil LBs, like Zeglier??

Its just my opinion, and when for once, we made an investment on a serious RB, i was overjoyed, regardless of the end result, because for once we made the right choice.
For how many consecutive years we will forcing to use a CB and CM on the left, be left without left sided options, only because we spend everything we have on new CMs and SSs??, one, two, six, twenty??

How can you justify that?? Why would you?
IMO it is a mistake to priorise the acquisition of a mediocre forward like Boriello over a starter in the defense, because i believe we have more adept options forward ad lack starters in the defense.

I would be a negativist if they were on investing ion the defense more than the offense and still moaning.
It is not my fault that they are keep repeating the very same mistakes again and again and again.

For how many years we are expecting a Juve material LB and always priorise one more SS instead of him and if it was for Cassano, Tevez, Jovetic or Hiquain, then so be it, as we would not have to buy one more next year, but we just keep adding mediocre ones for ever and keep compromising our strengthening elsewhere.
As long as this strategy continues, i will be criticizing it, because i consider it a mistake...
 
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