Wishlist and General Juve mercato talk (2011-12) (25 Viewers)
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Chiellini's ceiling of ability is that of a top five CB in Europe. We've seen it before. We can see it again. It's that simple. To say he's 1/5th of Barzagli is insulting and downright untrue. You know this, I'm sure.
I'm a fan of Barzagli, but be serious, his renaissance with us now is easily the best football he's played in his career (he's been on my radar since he joined Palermo and was deemed "one for the future" and all that).
How long can it really last, I wonder. If he's reached his peak and stays this way? Great for us all around.
You're just going crazy trying to denigrate Chiellini for the sake of it here. Bonucci better than him? In what universe? Bonucci's never even shown himself to have great potential. This is the same guy that was outshone by Ranocchia at Bari, merely being his partner's solid assistant. Right now? He's so error-prone I thought the name on his shirt read Boumsong. How many goals has he single-handedly cost us? Five or six? More? He's been an unmitigated disaster this season and is only in the starting line due to the absence of a proper LB (as demonstrated before Conte lost patience with De Ceglie) and an unwillingness to gamble on Sorensen due to his age. By "growing from match to match" I assume you're referring to, I don't know, his one very good match? That it was the most recent one is telling, too, since people only seem to remember the absolute latest form. Short memories and what not.
What does Bonucci have that Chiellini doesn't? Physical ability? No. Intelligence, positioning or reading of the game? Not especially. The unnecessary long pass? Okay. There's that.
Oh, and his most serious defect, that just happens to be one of the most important facets of a defender's game - a total incompetence in winning 1-v-1.
-edit. I forgot. He also cost us "25m"! Overpriced.
I'm a fan of Barzagli, but be serious, his renaissance with us now is easily the best football he's played in his career (he's been on my radar since he joined Palermo and was deemed "one for the future" and all that).
How long can it really last, I wonder. If he's reached his peak and stays this way? Great for us all around.
You're just going crazy trying to denigrate Chiellini for the sake of it here. Bonucci better than him? In what universe? Bonucci's never even shown himself to have great potential. This is the same guy that was outshone by Ranocchia at Bari, merely being his partner's solid assistant. Right now? He's so error-prone I thought the name on his shirt read Boumsong. How many goals has he single-handedly cost us? Five or six? More? He's been an unmitigated disaster this season and is only in the starting line due to the absence of a proper LB (as demonstrated before Conte lost patience with De Ceglie) and an unwillingness to gamble on Sorensen due to his age. By "growing from match to match" I assume you're referring to, I don't know, his one very good match? That it was the most recent one is telling, too, since people only seem to remember the absolute latest form. Short memories and what not.
What does Bonucci have that Chiellini doesn't? Physical ability? No. Intelligence, positioning or reading of the game? Not especially. The unnecessary long pass? Okay. There's that.
Oh, and his most serious defect, that just happens to be one of the most important facets of a defender's game - a total incompetence in winning 1-v-1.
-edit. I forgot. He also cost us "25m"! Overpriced.
Caceres would be a great buy! he's matured up into an excellent defender.he was great against real.
he can lock his side very well, and i think he can really help us.
I've read somewhere that chelski are looking to buy motta from us, maybe a swap deal with alex! how much truth is in that?
if true, that would be sweet!!
he can lock his side very well, and i think he can really help us.
I've read somewhere that chelski are looking to buy motta from us, maybe a swap deal with alex! how much truth is in that?
if true, that would be sweet!!
barzagli has never been at this levels but a lot in cb position comes with exp and i want to remind you that he has been a won a world championship with italy and he has played not starting eleven but has played half the matches and the first year at wolfsburg he won the budesliga
bonucci has been growing from match to match his last 2 matches were with no errors and if he cost us 4-5 goals than chiellini up to now has cost us 10 goals
you are not being objetive at all
and for game reading bonucci is better than chiellini as i said chiellini has not a great sense of positioning (maybe that comes because he is an adapted cb but well i cannot be sure about that)
and that unnececary long pass happens because he takes responsibility of playing the ball when pirlo is marked just so you know he sometimes gives balls that are not reachable but with exp he will learn and he will choose better where to send the ball his legs are much more educated than chiellini
also another reason why bonucci is better than chiellini at cb because he can be our regista of defense chiellini can't do it his tecnique the way he touches the ball is horryfying
now i am not saying that bonucci deserves to be at starting 11 i can name a lot of defenders that i would like in his place and sell him but if you compare him to chiellini i have no doubts in choosing
we will see how this will go next season if we don't buy a really good lb that means that conte doesn't see chiellini as a cb and if we buy a good lb we will see who will take the place at the left of barzagli
bonucci has been growing from match to match his last 2 matches were with no errors and if he cost us 4-5 goals than chiellini up to now has cost us 10 goals
you are not being objetive at all
and for game reading bonucci is better than chiellini as i said chiellini has not a great sense of positioning (maybe that comes because he is an adapted cb but well i cannot be sure about that)
and that unnececary long pass happens because he takes responsibility of playing the ball when pirlo is marked just so you know he sometimes gives balls that are not reachable but with exp he will learn and he will choose better where to send the ball his legs are much more educated than chiellini
also another reason why bonucci is better than chiellini at cb because he can be our regista of defense chiellini can't do it his tecnique the way he touches the ball is horryfying
now i am not saying that bonucci deserves to be at starting 11 i can name a lot of defenders that i would like in his place and sell him but if you compare him to chiellini i have no doubts in choosing
we will see how this will go next season if we don't buy a really good lb that means that conte doesn't see chiellini as a cb and if we buy a good lb we will see who will take the place at the left of barzagli
well from what i have read it seams that montolivio's girlfriend wants to go to milano and i think she was seen searching a house there althrough i don't know for wich of the milanesi he will sign
but not all is lost for us althrough with the europenas coming up i doubt he would prefer coming to us and staying on the bench
but not all is lost for us althrough with the europenas coming up i doubt he would prefer coming to us and staying on the bench
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