Wishlist and General Juve mercato talk (2011-12) (47 Viewers)

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Zacheryah

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Zacheryah, what is wrong with you? Borriello is not a winger nor will he ever be a regista.
regista ? i'll rephrase everything cause i seemb to be failing at explaining what i mean



currently we play with 4-3-3,

regista in the mid
one winger that works hard and presses opponents dead (pepe or giac)
one winger that connects the midfield with the frontline, that adds brilliance, creativity, passing, intelligent running, technical ability, and scoring ability (vucinic, as all the others fail at this task. del piero did it very good in the bologna game tho)


wh i mean when i say, "he replaces our regista"

basically, you would put a physical CM instead of regista, preferably one able do impose, and controll pace of the game.

because of this, we got much pressing power, combined with everything i said before about vucinic

the pressing winger would become less important, and the need of more attacking danger rises

so, you'd need another player to connect the front with. this would be borriello


what i mean with the formation

basically 4-3-3 with pazienza instead of pirlo, or montolivo. matri and vucinic up front.

borriello would be playing a bit to the right, but swerving there, free role you could call it. connecting with midfield and licht, making his dribbels, also holding up the play
and, adding more scoring ability then any other player we have that isnt matri or vucinic
 

acmilan

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Nov 8, 2005
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seems to me congrats are in order :D ... see, that's what you guys get for teasing me with Maxi f-ing Lopez :p

relax, though - Borriello could be very useful signing for Juve. Itdidn't work out for him at Roma but last season they were a circus and this year he never got a chance between injuries and whatnot.

He was, however, one of Milan's most important players under Leonardo and played as a big-bodied target man but also on the left of a front 3, which is what Conte seems to be going for these days. He is very hard-working player, only needs to feel important for the team and appreciated by the coach, and runs his ass off for the entire game - often you'd see him go back and defend in midfield and even as deep as RB and LB positions.
And, just for the record, Milan wanted to keep Borriello and sell Huntelaar but it was him who wanted out once Ibra and Binho arrived as he feared he'd rot on the bench had he stayed.

Obviously he isn't a star name but is a more versatile forward than Matri - can score, provide physical presence but also use his pace and decent technique and creativity too - and can run a lot more than Vucinic, who is gased by 60th-70th min when playing on the left and simply doesn't have the legs for that role. My guess is, with Borriello on the left, Conte would try using Vucinic in the center as a more creative version of Matri now.

I reckon you will end up losing one of Borrielo, Matri, Quagliarella at the end of the season - would use the 2nd half to figure out who, I guess - and go for a star-striker in the summer for the CL ... so you can relax, for now ;)
 

Quetzalcoatl

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Aug 22, 2007
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seems to me congrats are in order :D ... see, that's what you guys get for teasing me with Maxi f-ing Lopez :p

relax, though - Borriello could be very useful signing for Juve. Itdidn't work out for him at Roma but last season they were a circus and this year he never got a chance between injuries and whatnot.

He was, however, one of Milan's most important players under Leonardo and played as a big-bodied target man but also on the left of a front 3, which is what Conte seems to be going for these days. He is very hard-working player, only needs to feel important for the team and appreciated by the coach, and runs his ass off for the entire game - often you'd see him go back and defend in midfield and even as deep as RB and LB positions.
And, just for the record, Milan wanted to keep Borriello and sell Huntelaar but it was him who wanted out once Ibra and Binho arrived as he feared he'd rot on the bench had he stayed.

Obviously he isn't a star name but is a more versatile forward than Matri - can score, provide physical presence but also use his pace and decent technique and creativity too - and can run a lot more than Vucinic, who is gased by 60th-70th min when playing on the left and simply doesn't have the legs for that role. My guess is, with Borriello on the left, Conte would try using Vucinic in the center as a more creative version of Matri now.

I reckon you will end up losing one of Borrielo, Matri, Quagliarella at the end of the season - would use the 2nd half to figure out who, I guess - and go for a star-striker in the summer for the CL ... so you can relax, for now ;)
Borriello on the left? Why would that make more sense than any one of Quag, DP or even Pepe, Elia, Estigarribia?
 
Jul 1, 2010
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seems to me congrats are in order :D ... see, that's what you guys get for teasing me with Maxi f-ing Lopez :p

relax, though - Borriello could be very useful signing for Juve. Itdidn't work out for him at Roma but last season they were a circus and this year he never got a chance between injuries and whatnot.

He was, however, one of Milan's most important players under Leonardo and played as a big-bodied target man but also on the left of a front 3, which is what Conte seems to be going for these days. He is very hard-working player, only needs to feel important for the team and appreciated by the coach, and runs his ass off for the entire game - often you'd see him go back and defend in midfield and even as deep as RB and LB positions.
And, just for the record, Milan wanted to keep Borriello and sell Huntelaar but it was him who wanted out once Ibra and Binho arrived as he feared he'd rot on the bench had he stayed.

Obviously he isn't a star name but is a more versatile forward than Matri - can score, provide physical presence but also use his pace and decent technique and creativity too - and can run a lot more than Vucinic, who is gased by 60th-70th min when playing on the left and simply doesn't have the legs for that role. My guess is, with Borriello on the left, Conte would try using Vucinic in the center as a more creative version of Matri now.

I reckon you will end up losing one of Borrielo, Matri, Quagliarella at the end of the season - would use the 2nd half to figure out who, I guess - and go for a star-striker in the summer for the CL ... so you can relax, for now ;)
That's a good post, thanks for the input.

I'm also trying to see the positive aspects of such a move :D
 

acmilan

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Nov 8, 2005
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Borriello on the left? Why would that make more sense than any one of Quag, DP or even Pepe, Elia, Estigarribia?
because if you are gonna play Pepe on the right, playing Esti, Elia, etc would leave you with one striker only on the field. Vucinic just doesn't have the stamina to play out wide, DP even less so - he's played for what 30 min this entire season so far?

The only useful alternative from the one's you mentioned, which would allow Juve to have two strikers on the field, is Quagliarella, who I am not sure is there to stay, so a versatile striker like Borriello does make sense considering he won't be too expensive and it's not very easy to find available top players right now ... one's who aren't known as troublemakers, that is
 
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