Wishlist and General Juve mercato talk (2011-12) (45 Viewers)
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Careful now, if you look hard enough...you might actually be proven wrong. Again. Watch this and come back and tell me he can't beat his man and pop off some nice shots. Looks pretty aggressive to me, but again that isn't by your standards of aggressiveness of course. Must be the same standard of measurement you used to calculate that "90% of the time" you mentioned earlier.
Long and hard, Andy...that's how I work it.
And you're proving me wrong with a youtube compilation?? A video more positively biased and more conducive to your point of view to prove me wrong 
Unlike you I take his inadequacies into account and make a reasonable evaluation (and by that I don't mean the '90%' which is the last straw you have resorted to now). Whatever man, consider every player in the best light possible if you want but when I say one isn't don't make it your nightly responsibility just put me on ignore. With that I'm out. I've wasted enough time on this stupid argument.
Unlike you I take his inadequacies into account and make a reasonable evaluation (and by that I don't mean the '90%' which is the last straw you have resorted to now). Whatever man, consider every player in the best light possible if you want but when I say one isn't don't make it your nightly responsibility just put me on ignore. With that I'm out. I've wasted enough time on this stupid argument.
And you're proving me wrong with a youtube compilation?? A video more positively biased and more conducive to your point of view to prove me wrong Unlike you I take his inadequacies into account and make a reasonable evaluation (and by that I don't mean the '90%' which is the last straw you have resorted to now). Whatever man, consider every player in the best light possible if you want but when I say one isn't don't make it your nightly responsibility just put me on ignore. With that I'm out. I've wasted enough time on this stupid argument.
Unlike you I take his inadequacies into account and make a reasonable evaluation (and by that I don't mean the '90%' which is the last straw you have resorted to now). Whatever man, consider every player in the best light possible if you want but when I say one isn't don't make it your nightly responsibility just put me on ignore. With that I'm out. I've wasted enough time on this stupid argument.
Come back when you have an argument. I can't take a guy seriously that claims a player doesn't do something when people can see him in a video doing exactly what you say he doesn't do.
The Iraq war never happened. We were there on a peace keeping mission. :dielaugh:
And you're proving me wrong with a youtube compilation?? A video more positively biased and more conducive to your point of view to prove me wrong Unlike you I take his inadequacies into account and make a reasonable evaluation (and by that I don't mean the '90%' which is the last straw you have resorted to now). Whatever man, consider every player in the best light possible if you want but when I say one isn't don't make it your nightly responsibility just put me on ignore. With that I'm out. I've wasted enough time on this stupid argument.
Unlike you I take his inadequacies into account and make a reasonable evaluation (and by that I don't mean the '90%' which is the last straw you have resorted to now). Whatever man, consider every player in the best light possible if you want but when I say one isn't don't make it your nightly responsibility just put me on ignore. With that I'm out. I've wasted enough time on this stupid argument.
Weren't you the one that just said a video is supposed to make the player look good? Don't be a hypocrite.
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Yep, you sure as hell did.
See, that's just the thing...coming from the guy that spent "45" mins on youtube trying to find a "good" video of him.
Come back when you have an argument. I can't take a guy seriously that claims a player doesn't do something when people can see him in a video doing exactly what you say he doesn't do.
The Iraq war never happened. We were there on a peace keeping mission. :dielaugh:
Come back when you have an argument. I can't take a guy seriously that claims a player doesn't do something when people can see him in a video doing exactly what you say he doesn't do.
The Iraq war never happened. We were there on a peace keeping mission. :dielaugh:
Weren't you the one that just said a video is supposed to make the player look good? Don't be a hypocrite.
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Yep, you sure as hell did.
The difference between me and you is that I looked at those videos with the knowledge that you cannot take them at face value and therefore any reasonable person would take into account and look for a players inadequacies. Now if these videos that are traditionally positively biased to a players ability and if Perotti's videos had so many things that weren't impressive then by that reasonable logic it would be relatively safe to take some middle ground and assume that he obviously has some inadequacies because a video conducive to a players qualities has even shown that he lacks certain qualities.
You however, believe everything a youtube video shows you and its evident in this entire discussion that you've chosen to completely ignore any negative thing about him as shown on these videos. He does some of the things I said he couldn't do, but he fucks them up as well and that is evident on his HIGHLIGHT REEL! His highlight reel should be 100% positive and even youtube couldn't leave out his flaws! BUT YOU CHOSE TO IGNORE THEM AND SEE THE GOOD THINGS, THINKING THAT THOSE TWO GOOD THINGS WERE REPRESENTATIVE OF HIS ABILITY TO TAKE ON PLAYERS AS A WHOLE. Which makes you not even just impressionable, it makes you stupid
because even when contrary evidence is right in front of you, you chose to see only one side with an obvious predisposition to rate players highly.I didn't want to resort to this but you're a joke the way you go about discussing anything football related on this forum, you don't seem to have an objective bone in your body and you systematically annoy anyone who doesn't want to take your side which is often wrong. I know you played football but you need to go watch a youtube video of a player and then watch him in actual games and see the difference because you're not getting it and you haven't been for a long time.
I was gonna go to bed but I can't ignore your stupidity. I'll answer you simply and you should listen. Because if you listen, you won't have to repeat yourself over and over and maybe you can finally accept that you are wrong.
The difference between me and you is that I looked at those videos with the knowledge that you cannot take them at face value and therefore any reasonable person would take into account and look for a players inadequacies. Now if these videos that are traditionally positively biased to a players ability and if Perotti's videos had so many things that weren't impressive then by that reasonable logic it would be relatively safe to take some middle ground and assume that he obviously has some inadequacies because a video conducive to a players qualities has even shown that he lacks certain qualities.
You however, believe everything a youtube video shows you and its evident in this entire discussion that you've chosen to completely ignore any negative thing about him as shown on these videos. He does some of the things I said he couldn't do, but he fucks them up as well and that is evident on his HIGHLIGHT REEL! His highlight reel should be 100% positive and even youtube couldn't leave out his flaws! BUT YOU CHOSE TO IGNORE THEM AND SEE THE GOOD THINGS, THINKING THAT THOSE TWO GOOD THINGS WERE REPRESENTATIVE OF HIS ABILITY TO TAKE ON PLAYERS AS A WHOLE. Which makes you not even just impressionable, it makes you stupid because even when contrary evidence is right in front of you, you chose to see only one side with an obvious predisposition to rate players highly.
I didn't want to resort to this but you're a joke the way you go about discussing anything football related on this forum, you don't seem to have an objective bone in your body and you systematically annoy anyone who doesn't want to take your side which is often wrong. I know you played football but you need to go watch a youtube video of a player and then watch him in actual games and see the difference because you're not getting it and you haven't been for a long time.
The difference between me and you is that I looked at those videos with the knowledge that you cannot take them at face value and therefore any reasonable person would take into account and look for a players inadequacies. Now if these videos that are traditionally positively biased to a players ability and if Perotti's videos had so many things that weren't impressive then by that reasonable logic it would be relatively safe to take some middle ground and assume that he obviously has some inadequacies because a video conducive to a players qualities has even shown that he lacks certain qualities.
You however, believe everything a youtube video shows you and its evident in this entire discussion that you've chosen to completely ignore any negative thing about him as shown on these videos. He does some of the things I said he couldn't do, but he fucks them up as well and that is evident on his HIGHLIGHT REEL! His highlight reel should be 100% positive and even youtube couldn't leave out his flaws! BUT YOU CHOSE TO IGNORE THEM AND SEE THE GOOD THINGS, THINKING THAT THOSE TWO GOOD THINGS WERE REPRESENTATIVE OF HIS ABILITY TO TAKE ON PLAYERS AS A WHOLE. Which makes you not even just impressionable, it makes you stupid
because even when contrary evidence is right in front of you, you chose to see only one side with an obvious predisposition to rate players highly.I didn't want to resort to this but you're a joke the way you go about discussing anything football related on this forum, you don't seem to have an objective bone in your body and you systematically annoy anyone who doesn't want to take your side which is often wrong. I know you played football but you need to go watch a youtube video of a player and then watch him in actual games and see the difference because you're not getting it and you haven't been for a long time.
But that entails for clip makers to put in the effort to show whole plays, regardless if they end up as assist or goal. But most dont, they just show some cliche moments of a goal or such (even for CBs...). Hence most of these clips says fuck all overally of a player. It makes them look better in overall (depending on how much you show), but also the reverse. Taking your knowledge from them, or dissing a player because of them is equally laughable.
Seriously, why is the discussion even about frigging youtube clips? Just watch the frigging player on games.
I was gonna go to bed but I can't ignore your stupidity. I'll answer you simply and you should listen. Because if you listen, you won't have to repeat yourself over and over and maybe you can finally accept that you are wrong.
The difference between me and you is that I looked at those videos with the knowledge that you cannot take them at face value and therefore any reasonable person would take into account and look for a players inadequacies. Now if these videos that are traditionally positively biased to a players ability and if Perotti's videos had so many things that weren't impressive then by that reasonable logic it would be relatively safe to take some middle ground and assume that he obviously has some inadequacies because a video conducive to a players qualities has even shown that he lacks certain qualities.
You however, believe everything a youtube video shows you and its evident in this entire discussion that you've chosen to completely ignore any negative thing about him as shown on these videos. He does some of the things I said he couldn't do, but he fucks them up as well and that is evident on his HIGHLIGHT REEL! His highlight reel should be 100% positive and even youtube couldn't leave out his flaws! BUT YOU CHOSE TO IGNORE THEM AND SEE THE GOOD THINGS, THINKING THAT THOSE TWO GOOD THINGS WERE REPRESENTATIVE OF HIS ABILITY TO TAKE ON PLAYERS AS A WHOLE. Which makes you not even just impressionable, it makes you stupid because even when contrary evidence is right in front of you, you chose to see only one side with an obvious predisposition to rate players highly.
I didn't want to resort to this but you're a joke the way you go about discussing anything football related on this forum, you don't seem to have an objective bone in your body and you systematically annoy anyone who doesn't want to take your side which is often wrong. I know you played football but you need to go watch a youtube video of a player and then watch him in actual games and see the difference because you're not getting it and you haven't been for a long time.
The difference between me and you is that I looked at those videos with the knowledge that you cannot take them at face value and therefore any reasonable person would take into account and look for a players inadequacies. Now if these videos that are traditionally positively biased to a players ability and if Perotti's videos had so many things that weren't impressive then by that reasonable logic it would be relatively safe to take some middle ground and assume that he obviously has some inadequacies because a video conducive to a players qualities has even shown that he lacks certain qualities.
You however, believe everything a youtube video shows you and its evident in this entire discussion that you've chosen to completely ignore any negative thing about him as shown on these videos. He does some of the things I said he couldn't do, but he fucks them up as well and that is evident on his HIGHLIGHT REEL! His highlight reel should be 100% positive and even youtube couldn't leave out his flaws! BUT YOU CHOSE TO IGNORE THEM AND SEE THE GOOD THINGS, THINKING THAT THOSE TWO GOOD THINGS WERE REPRESENTATIVE OF HIS ABILITY TO TAKE ON PLAYERS AS A WHOLE. Which makes you not even just impressionable, it makes you stupid
because even when contrary evidence is right in front of you, you chose to see only one side with an obvious predisposition to rate players highly.I didn't want to resort to this but you're a joke the way you go about discussing anything football related on this forum, you don't seem to have an objective bone in your body and you systematically annoy anyone who doesn't want to take your side which is often wrong. I know you played football but you need to go watch a youtube video of a player and then watch him in actual games and see the difference because you're not getting it and you haven't been for a long time.
1.) You said he can't beat his man...the videos, the same damn ones you watched shows he can.
2.) You said he isn't aggressive...again, the same videos you saw as I show him take on 2 guys at once plenty of times and run at them...that's pretty damn aggressive if you ask anyone that either knows about soccer or actually kicked a fucking ball in their life.
3.) Unlike you, I don't need to watch youtube for 45 mins to know if a player can beat a man or not. I'd like you to show me the video and times where he made a mistake, then go look for a video of Messi and tell me if every pass he ever makes actually makes its destination.
4.) Play it safe...thank god you aren't a soccer coach. You remind me of the kid that would try and beat every man every time he gets the ball. There is nothing wrong with playing it smart when you have no where to go...
5.) Some of his goals came from long shots with both feet...and there again, is something you say he can't do.
I could go on and on but it would be like taking Hellen Keller to a movie...it wouldn't any difference because you are incapable of understanding this game. Enjoy bed, enjoy youtube compilations and trying to make arguments out of thin air when in fact the entire world can see the same video and not see what you see.
Sleep well.
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