Wishlist and General Juve mercato talk (2011-12) part 2 (11 Viewers)

[Badass J Elkann]

40 M for Cavani is way too much. I think 30M will do.

it will more likely be 20 odd million plus the likes of Matri and probably 1 or 2 others to make weight

 

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[Salvatore]

My opinion of Džeko hasn't really changed since he was at Wolfsburg. Obviously I'd rather have Higuaín or Cavani, but Edin hasn't lost any of the characteristics that made him so attractive two years ago. He's built to bully big defenders and he can clearly strike a ball very well. I think he'd be a starter at Juve, and that attention would do a lot for his consistency compared to his time City.

 

[Fr3sh]

I REALLY don't want to get the reputation on here for wanting to be a know-it-all, as I can come off arrogant etc, but in a nutshell, let me explain how we should deal with striker transfers -

We play a 4-3-3 formation and a 3-5-2. This is already a bad start (although both formations have worked very well this season) as it'll create inconsistencies in signings, and players will get confused. That aside, let's look at what we have to work with:

1: A 4-3-3 cries for a complete forward who can score with his head, his feet, and has a great work rate. This player will often become isolated due to being a lone striker, so must be physically imposing, and have some decent pace at the same time. He must have a cool head, and not get frustrated easily.

2: A 3-5-2 needs a target man, partnered with a poacher who will just stand there, and be in the right place at the right time to bang in goals. Alternatively, a 3-4-1-2 (which I believe would work better), would have a Juan Mata type player in the hole, who can drift wherever he pleases, while also being an advanced playmaker ahead of the primary playmaker dictating the tempo (Pirlo in this case). With a man behind 2 strikers, you wouldn't want either striker dropping deep, as it would cause congestion and confusion. Either 2 poachers, or a Target Man/Defensive Forward (I will explain) - Poacher system would work.

For the 4-3-3, the perfect sort of striker would be a Cavani or Drogba (in his prime) type player. Players like Suarez and Tevez would get hit off the ball far too easily as they'd often find themselves surrounded by opposing players, and being a lone striker, would have much more pressure on them. I doubt either Suarez or Tevez could handle that pressure.

As for the 3-5-2/3-4-1-2, a clinical, advanced forward would be ideal (Think Torres in his prime, or a taller version of Javier Hernandez). He'd need to be partnered with someone who's unselfish and whose primary aim ISN'T to score goals (Odd for a striker, I know, but let me explain.) This partner would work as that defensive forward. That's a player who is physically dominant, and whose primary aim is to be a distraction. He will drag defenders out of position, creating space for his partnered forward to exploit, take aim from, and then shoot. GOAAAALLLL!!!!!

So - In a 4-3-3, i'd suggest Cavani. He's literally the only player I can think of off the top of my head who's suited to the role perfectly. The price would be a shame though.

For the 3-4-1-2, a partnership of Giroud and Luuk de Jong of Twente would be LETHAL. Trust me. Often, a fantastic player will look pretty average in an average team, and I think that's what many will think of Jong if they look him up on Youtube...but he'd flourish here. Trust me.
He reminds me of Henry during his time with Arsenal. Oh and by the way - Jong has 30 league goals this season (2 penalties)... and he's 21 years old.

PHEW! Finished.
I've heard rumours, thankfully, that we ARE actually interested in Jong, so if we do actually step up interest in him, I'll scream like a prepubescent girl about to lose her virginity to Justin Bieber.

Final comment on Jong: Remember - The best clubs find the coal, and turn them into diamonds. The weak clubs find the diamonds, and crush them to pieces.

---------- Post added 05.05.2012 at 23:15 ----------

P.S. - For anyone wanting to see this Luuk de Jong character, this is a decent vid -

 

[Hust]

Which leaves us with the lesser players like Dzeko.

 

[Fellas]

I REALLY don't want to get the reputation on here for wanting to be a know-it-all, as I can come off arrogant etc, but in a nutshell, let me explain how we should deal with striker transfers -

We play a 4-3-3 formation and a 3-5-2. This is already a bad start (although both formations have worked very well this season) as it'll create inconsistencies in signings, and players will get confused. That aside, let's look at what we have to work with:

1: A 4-3-3 cries for a complete forward who can score with his head, his feet, and has a great work rate. This player will often become isolated due to being a lone striker, so must be physically imposing, and have some decent pace at the same time. He must have a cool head, and not get frustrated easily.

2: A 3-5-2 needs a target man, partnered with a poacher who will just stand there, and be in the right place at the right time to bang in goals. Alternatively, a 3-4-1-2 (which I believe would work better), would have a Juan Mata type player in the hole, who can drift wherever he pleases, while also being an advanced playmaker ahead of the primary playmaker dictating the tempo (Pirlo in this case). With a man behind 2 strikers, you wouldn't want either striker dropping deep, as it would cause congestion and confusion. Either 2 poachers, or a Target Man/Defensive Forward (I will explain) - Poacher system would work.

For the 4-3-3, the perfect sort of striker would be a Cavani or Drogba (in his prime) type player. Players like Suarez and Tevez would get hit off the ball far too easily as they'd often find themselves surrounded by opposing players, and being a lone striker, would have much more pressure on them. I doubt either Suarez or Tevez could handle that pressure.

As for the 3-5-2/3-4-1-2, a clinical, advanced forward would be ideal (Think Torres in his prime, or a taller version of Javier Hernandez). He'd need to be partnered with someone who's unselfish and whose primary aim ISN'T to score goals (Odd for a striker, I know, but let me explain.) This partner would work as that defensive forward. That's a player who is physically dominant, and whose primary aim is to be a distraction. He will drag defenders out of position, creating space for his partnered forward to exploit, take aim from, and then shoot. GOAAAALLLL!!!!!

So - In a 4-3-3, i'd suggest Cavani. He's literally the only player I can think of off the top of my head who's suited to the role perfectly. The price would be a shame though.

For the 3-4-1-2, a partnership of Giroud and Luuk de Jong of Twente would be LETHAL. Trust me. Often, a fantastic player will look pretty average in an average team, and I think that's what many will think of Jong if they look him up on Youtube...but he'd flourish here. Trust me.
He reminds me of Henry during his time with Arsenal. Oh and by the way - Jong has 30 league goals this season (2 penalties)... and he's 21 years old.

PHEW! Finished.
I've heard rumours, thankfully, that we ARE actually interested in Jong, so if we do actually step up interest in him, I'll scream like a prepubescent girl about to lose her virginity to Justin Bieber.

Final comment on Jong: Remember - The best clubs find the coal, and turn them into diamonds. The weak clubs find the diamonds, and crush them to pieces.

---------- Post added 05.05.2012 at 23:15 ----------

P.S. - For anyone wanting to see this Luuk de Jong character, this is a decent vid -

It will be interesting to see what Conte and Marotta goes after in the summer. It's not easy to get players like Cavani. I have seen that Jong scores alot, but never seen him play I think. Looks talented, how much would he cost you think? And I agree with you that sometimes you most find the diamonds instead of buying them when their price is to high. But in the summer we need a proven striker. But Jong and another proven striker would be awesome IMO. Just look at the Vidal deal, he is now one of the best in his role, we hade the chance to get Cavani before even Palermo did. And ofcourse I would love a Cavani/Van Persie transfer now, But I also love that we finally are looking for the top talents in Italy, but also in other countries. Curti,Leali,Verratti is the way to go. Lets take the best talents in italy and also look in other countries around the world, but also look for coming stars in south america before their price get to high.

 

[kronos]

I was just looking for some gifs
+rep my friend.

 

[Fr3sh]

 

[Suns]

Whatever, whoever signs for us whether its Higauin, Cavani or Dzeko they'll be getting their goals served by the 14 goals and 10 assists man Giovinco.

 

[Fr3sh]

Devout believer in Gio's talent uh?

If he comes here and pulls the same numbers he's pulled at Parma then great! But I HIGHLY doubt he'll be able to reproduce that...but we'll see, hopefully I'll be proved wrong. Until then fuck the little gnome

 

[Klin]

Whatever, whoever signs for us whether its Higauin, Cavani or Dzeko they'll be getting their goals served by the 14 goals and 10 assists man Giovinco.

I really doubt Fiorentina will sign Higauin, Cavani or Dzeko any time soon man.

 

[Fred]

 

[Gian]

How is Suarez not the player we need? I feel like Pool will sell for the right offer, and maybe even a valuable player in exchange. Krasic, Elia may tempt them. Remember a couple of their players maybe sold this season given their lack of CL next year. Suarez IMO would be happy to leave England for Italy.

I doubt Suarez is the prolific goalscorer we lack. His stats are OK in 'Pool for scoring goals but I do consider him wasteful with the chances he getss.

I like Suarez a lot but I dont think he'll be a 20-goal striker

 

[Snoop]

lol who are you and who is he?

 

[Klin]

lol who are you and who is he?

Fr3sh is Osman's cousin.

 

[Snoop]

Fr3sh is Osman's cousin.

Two anacondas double fantasy

who's the other guy? the one being gangbanged.

 

[Zlatan]

I think Dzeko would be a great player for us. I dont think he's as good as RvP, Cavani or Higuain, but he's not far off.

He's much better than his Man City form suggests. He has a lot of problems there with playing style and confidence, and I really think that Juve would be the perfect club for him where he could flourish and that he could be a 30 goals a season (in all competitions) player for us.

And he'd be much easirer and cheaper to get than the other targets, I dont think we'd need more than 25 mil to sign him.

 

[Nzoric]

i agree, dzeko would be really good in juve. i don't think he's peaked as an attacker yet, and the as you suggest the style and limited minutes on the pitch at city are taking a toll on his performances. in juve he would be choice nr. 1 and would bang in goals like there's no tomorrow. the only problem with this transfer is his paycheck, iirc it's too heavy for us.

 

[Zlatan]

i agree, dzeko would be really good in juve. i don't think he's peaked as an attacker yet, and the as you suggest the style and limited minutes on the pitch at city are taking a toll on his performances. in juve he would be choice nr. 1 and would bang in goals like there's no tomorrow. the only problem with this transfer is his paycheck, iirc it's too heavy for us.

I dont know how much he's making in Man City, but if he wants to move he knows that he wont get that money elsewhere. However, he was also on 5 mil a year in Wolfsburg, so we'd need to offer him at least Amauri's wages to have a chance of getting him, somehwehere between 4 and 5 mil per season. Which is a lot, but that is the least what you have to pay top players, Real, Man City, PSG, Chelsea pay even more.

 

[Nzoric]

that's acceptable, but iirc his wages are up around 9mill in shitty.

 

[Salvatore]

The Kagawa & United quote was bullshit.