Wishlist and General Juve mercato talk (2011-12) part 2 (15 Viewers)

[Ahmed]

Ahmed was saying one of JoJo/Ramirez and a top CF

just relaying what I am reading, am no guru :ahmed:

pretty clear that we need a Pepe replacement/backup.

 

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[Gerd]

On the other hand cavani has even better insticts than higuain and is much better at team work and defends a ton but compared to higuain you lose on the tecnical atribute since the argentinian is better .

 

[Fint]

Sky: Juventus interested in Obi Mikel, Meireles, Asamoah. Nainggolan seems distant at the moment.

Dafuq?

 

[Ahmed]

On the other hand cavani has even better insticts than higuain and is much better at team work and defends a ton but compared to higuain you lose on the tecnical atribute since the argentinian is better .

consecutive 30 goals plus seasons for Edinson, I dont think we are losing anything...dude is a killer.

 

[K.O.]

Sky: Juventus interested in Obi Mikel, Meireles, Asamoah. Nainggolan seems distant at the moment.

Dafuq?

Meireles is good. Mikel is rubbish.

 

[Fint]

Would Meireles accept a bench role though as he's a starter at Chelsea, I can't see it

 

[baggio]

That is soooooooooooooo wrong .

To give an example of what a centreforward/striker should do


Now don't look at the finishing i don't expect that , look at the movement , he sees the ball separates himself from the pack and than he finds himself with the ball in his legs . It looks just like the ball goes to him . Now i am not expecting our next striker to be trezeguet but he should be at the right place at the right time and all our strikers none excluded fail to do that , there are a lot of balls going around the area and matri is nowhere to be found . Matri is nowhere higuain the guy has much more insticts than matri . Plus he is nowhere near higuain when it comes to finishing matri is just awful compared to him

A lot of the things you're talking about here are correct, but not entirely relevant. Matri has good instinct. I feel like this year is unfair to judge him because of getting used to Conte's tactics. The possession game doesn't suit the prototype centre forward. He needs to be either physically adept to run from very deep or a more hybrid kind of player with ball skills. Higuain according to me, will have the same problems Matri currently has in this set up. He may score more coz he's played at a higher level for much longer, but I don't think he will score as freely as everybody thinks.

 

[Gerd]

A lot of the things you're talking about here are correct, but not entirely relevant. Matri has good instinct. I feel like this year is unfair to judge him because of getting used to Conte's tactics. The possession game doesn't suit the prototype centre forward. He needs to be either physically adept to run from very deep or a more hybrid kind of player with ball skills. Higuain according to me, will have the same problems Matri currently has in this set up. He may score more coz he's played at a higher level for much longer, but I don't think he will score as freely as everybody thinks.

Higuain is also much better tecnically than matri , so he should be more confortable with possesion game , matri can't stop a decent ball . On the other hand i agree that it will be tougher for him to score and i don't think that the striker who searches depth is the right one for our game . Have already said that the best for our game in my opinion are benzema and more than anyone van persie . Tecnically speaking the second is above all strikers in the world , he doesn't miss a pass even if you shoot his legs . Too bad the first is impossible and the second seems improbable .

 

[Salvatore]

That's very very unfair. You're judging him in a more open league, which is easier to score in. And with a team that is at least 5 times better, qualitatively speaking.

People aren't judging him for the league he plays in, but for the qualities he shows in games. The guy is clinical, moves very well off the ball and is more athletic than any of our forwards.

Matri would do just as well if he was playing for Madrid and was supported by the best in the world. Common.

You can't seriously believe this? Higuaín is superior in most aspects.

 

[Joe]

Meireles. If we can't get Asamoah, I'd want Meireles here.

Asamoah > Meireles > Nainggolan IMO.

 

[baggio]

You can't seriously believe this? Higuaín is superior in most aspects.

I actually believe Matri can transform into a very good player under the right conditions. He has a lot of facets to his game. He just needs the right environment. Higuain has played in a top team for much longer and is conditioned differently. Matri is older but that doesn't mean he won't come good.

If Conte shows him faith, a lot of opinions about him will change. He's not a Ronaldo, but he can develop into a Vieri with the right guidance.

 

[Fint]

Where's Mark with his usual late night mercato posts

 

[mukumsplau]

That is soooooooooooooo wrong .

To give an example of what a centreforward/striker should do


Now don't look at the finishing i don't expect that , look at the movement , he sees the ball separates himself from the pack and than he finds himself with the ball in his legs . It looks just like the ball goes to him . Now i am not expecting our next striker to be trezeguet but he should be at the right place at the right time and all our strikers none excluded fail to do that , there are a lot of balls going around the area and matri is nowhere to be found . Matri is nowhere higuain the guy has much more insticts than matri . Plus he is nowhere near higuain when it comes to finishing matri is just awful compared to him

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[Zacheryah]

A lot of the things you're talking about here are correct, but not entirely relevant. Matri has good instinct. I feel like this year is unfair to judge him because of getting used to Conte's tactics. The possession game doesn't suit the prototype centre forward. He needs to be either physically adept to run from very deep or a more hybrid kind of player with ball skills. Higuain according to me, will have the same problems Matri currently has in this set up. He may score more coz he's played at a higher level for much longer, but I don't think he will score as freely as everybody thinks.

when surrounded and played right, matri is very usefull for any team, especially in form.

Higuain, was real madrid at his first year. better impact then ronaldo that year, superb finisher, allways in form, very technical and unlike matri, can lead the attack regardless of the playstyle

matri is a poacher at best, higuain is a complete forward with better finishing then matri.


of all the forward we talked about, higuain certainly is the most clinical. exactly what we need.

 

[Gian]

I agree , but the problem of signing Higi is his price.

 

[baggio]

Anything more than 25m is a waste IMO. That kind of money would be better spent on awing forward like Suarez.

 

[mondo1]

i don't want meireles here, everytime i saw him play he pretty much sucked

 

[Brujitas]

Drogba for free anyone?
It's a risk, I know , and I really want Cavani but even though he is old i really would like to see him in a Juventus jersey.

 

[baggio]

Drogba, plus Suarez.