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Hust

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May 29, 2005
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That's the way it should be. Add one piece every year. :tup:

Everyone keeps saying if players don't like it here, then they're free to leave. Have you ever questioned why they want to leave? Maybe the fault doesn't lie only with the players. Perhaps they realize something is missing, and I'm not talking about money.
players 9 times out of 10 leave for more money and under the guise of winning more. Pogba and Vidal left for MUCH more money and have pretty much won nothing that they couldn’t get here.

Players don’t leave for pay cuts. So, as a club that’s equipped to reach a CL each year what’s the point in leaving? Money. That’s what it comes down to. Behind money is a confrontation with the club.

That’s my opinion.

Your last point: “something is missing”. What is missing at Juve that Vidal could get at Bayern and Pogba at ManU?

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Lol how can a player come to Juve or be playing here AT A CLUB THAT HAS REACHED 2 CL FINALS and still see something missing? If the CL trophy is what they want then everyone would want Real or Barca that’s where they have the best chance.

Something else calls these players.
 

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GarfielD

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May 21, 2009
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With market prices going sky up, how do you guys think that we will cope with it? What effect will it have on our transfer policy? Will we be able to spent big money on transfers in the future while keeping our most expensive players or only if we sell big like in the past?

I personaly think that we will keep our policy and look for bargains like we always do. Even though we are one of the best teams in Europe, for some reason, we still dont spend much money. Im afraid that this transfer policy of ours will start to have a bad effect in the future if it doesnt change. Im all in for good bargain deals, but there comes a point where you must spend big if you want to get a game changing player. As football evolves, so does the market unfortunately. We must spend big in the future if we want to remain in the elite.

I hope that we will start investing more in WC players in the future. Once the old guard is gone, we must invest big.
 

pavluska

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Apr 25, 2013
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Vidal left b/c he wanted to win CL. At that time, we weren't considered CL contenders.

Pogba left for $. He didn't wait another yr or pick a diff team that play in the CL b/c he has a fat prick for an agent.

Bonucci left b/c he stopped caring as much for the game after his son fell ill (used to repeat often how other things are more important in life). Left for more $ and b/c the bonehead's feelings were hurt.

Dani Alves is a complete bellend.


They all left for diff reasons. Both salary and how competitive the team is are important for the average player.

We can offer players 7-8m now, so salary-wise, we can satisfy some very good players. And we're one of the top-6 teams/CL contenders. The players who're still out of our reach are those who can get 8 figures at other clubs.

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With market prices going sky up, how do you guys think that we will cope with it? What effect will it have on our transfer policy? Will we be able to spent big money on transfers in the future while keeping our most expensive players or only if we sell big like in the past?

I personaly think that we will keep our policy and look for bargains like we always do. Even though we are one of the best teams in Europe, for some reason, we still dont spend much money. Im afraid that this transfer policy of ours will start to have a bad effect in the future if it doesnt change. Im all in for good bargain deals, but there comes a point where you must spend big if you want to get a game changing player. As football evolves, so does the market unfortunately. We must spend big in the future if we want to remain in the elite.

I hope that we will start investing more in WC players in the future. Once the old guard is gone, we must invest big.
We're spending more and more every yr as our revenue increases. Higuaín for 90m. Berna & DC for 96m.

We can't head on compete with the richest clubs with $ b/c they're...richer. We'll continue to invest in youth with potential, look for "opportunities" to sign good players for cheap, and make one or two big purchases here and there. That's the right way to go about it.
 

Orgut

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Dec 31, 2002
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Vidal left b/c he wanted to win CL. At that time, we weren't considered CL contenders.

Pogba left for $. He didn't wait another yr or pick a diff team that play in the CL b/c he has a fat prick for an agent.

Bonucci left b/c he stopped caring as much for the game after his son fell ill (used to repeat often how other things are more important in life). Left for more $ and b/c the bonehead's feelings were hurt.

Dani Alves is a complete bellend.


They all left for diff reasons. Both salary and how competitive the team is are important for the average player.

We can offer players 7-8m now, so salary-wise, we can satisfy some very good players. And we're one of the top-6 teams/CL contenders. The players who're still out of our reach are those who can get 8 figures at other clubs.

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We're spending more and more every yr as our revenue increases. Higuaín for 90m. Berna & DC for 96m.

We can't head on compete with the richest clubs with $ b/c they're...richer. We'll continue to invest in youth with potential, look for "opportunities" to sign good players for cheap, and make one or two big purchases here and there. That's the right way to go about it.
Yeah but we still managed to get to the final and almost winning it.. We werent that far from beating what IMO was the best Barcelona ever...
I agree with the assessment on Vidal and Pogba though as I do have a soft spot for Vidal while I am angry with Pogba...
That being said - If Vidal signs for Inter the whole "soft spot" thing will disappear in a second!
 

Xperd

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Jun 1, 2012
35,078
In: Can (free), SMS (80m:D), Spinnz (free), Caldara (free)
Out: Asamoah, Buffon, Sturaro, Licht, Höwedes, Khedira.


Easy day.

Bolster midfield, new RB and CB. Leave attach alone.
If only it was that easy the last 3 summers..

Common, we know atleast one top player will be leaving to balance the books. We need to get used to it now.

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I don't see us spending €80M on a player without selling someone

Wage demands and transfer fees have sky rocketed. Only way we can keep up is by improving our revenue by a large margin but that isn't happening so the only other solution is reshuffling the squad with sales every year or two.
 

The Quazis

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Dec 21, 2012
5,574
We have always operated like that. I recently watched the official Juventus movie and it had Gianni Agnelli saying that at Juventus we rather focus on young talents and develop them instead of spending crazy money on the market. It was in the eighties and is still actual.

Wysłane z mojego FRD-L09 przy użyciu Tapatalka
 

Orgut

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2002
19,332
If only it was that easy the last 3 summers..

Common, we know atleast one top player will be leaving to balance the books. We need to get used to it now.

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I don't see us spending €80M on a player without selling someone

Wage demands and transfer fees have sky rocketed. Only way we can keep up is by improving our revenue by a large margin but that isn't happening so the only other solution is reshuffling the squad with sales every year or two.
Dybala and A.Sandro
 

pitbull

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Jul 26, 2007
11,045
With market prices going sky up, how do you guys think that we will cope with it? What effect will it have on our transfer policy? Will we be able to spent big money on transfers in the future while keeping our most expensive players or only if we sell big like in the past?

I personaly think that we will keep our policy and look for bargains like we always do. Even though we are one of the best teams in Europe, for some reason, we still dont spend much money. Im afraid that this transfer policy of ours will start to have a bad effect in the future if it doesnt change. Im all in for good bargain deals, but there comes a point where you must spend big if you want to get a game changing player. As football evolves, so does the market unfortunately. We must spend big in the future if we want to remain in the elite.

I hope that we will start investing more in WC players in the future. Once the old guard is gone, we must invest big.
I think the market prices aren't that terrible, the wages some of the top players are getting worry me way more. Higuain who is our top earner is nowhere near the elite. Having top players isn't our problem, we have great scouts and a bargain specialist in charge, our problem is keeping our wc guys happy and as long as we can't afford to pay anywhere close to 15m a year we're not the best place to be
 

Kopanja

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Jul 30, 2015
5,594
We have always operated like that. I recently watched the official Juventus movie and it had Gianni Agnelli saying that at Juventus we rather focus on young talents and develop them instead of spending crazy money on the market. It was in the eighties and is still actual.
True dat.
Quite ironic though sometimes. I remember when Kaka had chosen Milan, Davids said in intervuew something along the lines "we don't need milk drinkers here, don't have time for them". Kaka with Pavel and Mauro.
 

Alin

FINO ALLA FINE!
Jul 27, 2015
6,390
We have always operated like that. I recently watched the official Juventus movie and it had Gianni Agnelli saying that at Juventus we rather focus on young talents and develop them instead of spending crazy money on the market. It was in the eighties and is still actual.

Wysłane z mojego FRD-L09 przy użyciu Tapatalka
True fact. :tup:

Tho it has to be said, back than it was something like we rather focus on young talents and develop them for ourselfs so they become our legends, not to prepare for the next step which is to sell them to a more financially potent club as more or less is the situation today... there is some middle ground here anyway, there been some dark times that passed and the board is keeping an eye towards the potent/stable future for the club both in terms of performance and financial wise which is probably the proper thing to do atm.
 

Xperd

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Jun 1, 2012
35,078
We have always operated like that. I recently watched the official Juventus movie and it had Gianni Agnelli saying that at Juventus we rather focus on young talents and develop them instead of spending crazy money on the market. It was in the eighties and is still actual.

Wysłane z mojego FRD-L09 przy użyciu Tapatalka
Except we had better (financial) capability to retain our best players.
 

Hust

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Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
De Vrij to Inter apparently.

Source: FI. (Lol)

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If only it was that easy the last 3 summers..

Common, we know atleast one top player will be leaving to balance the books. We need to get used to it now.

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I don't see us spending €80M on a player without selling someone

Wage demands and transfer fees have sky rocketed. Only way we can keep up is by improving our revenue by a large margin but that isn't happening so the only other solution is reshuffling the squad with sales every year or two.
Look, I’ll be honest. Players come and go. It doesn’t bother me because as long as the club is winning and our brand/value increases I see it as a wining model. Nothing suggests otherwise to me. I get the frustration of players going which is why I literally always say “I don’t get emotionally attached to players because I look at this as a business.” Makes it 100 times easier to stomach. I’m maybe mad for an hour when a sale confirmed but until we get a weaker coach and an SD that stops at least recognizing the weaknesses then I’ll probably voice more criticism than I do now.

Marotta has his obvious weaknesses but I’m sorry if this offends anyone, I guess the sheep in me likes where this club has come since our 2 seventh place finishes. Never would have thought we would spend over 90m on a player. But we continue trying to buy the best and that’s great. Believe me, I do understand your guy’s frustration at our selling policy. I guess I’m better at stomaching it.
 
Apr 29, 2006
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The Agnelli's should open their pockets and close their mouths about 'financial difficulties'. Being the prime example of criminals they need moral 'support' and should pay for it. Its one thing to be 'smart' with investments and completely another to turn circles by selling one player to buy another.

Imagine a Roman Emperor sending out some handicapped(economically viable) gladiators in the Coliseum, them crawling towards each other for hours on... 'Times are tough' and 'Gladiatorial FFP'!!! Impoverished pharisees smh...
 

s4tch

Senior Member
Mar 23, 2015
33,759
In: Can (free), SMS (80m:D), Spinnz (free), Caldara (free)
Out: Asamoah, Buffon, Sturaro, Licht, Höwedes, Khedira.


Easy day.

Bolster midfield, new RB and CB. Leave attach alone.
yesterday we forgot mandragora. i'd even take him back in january instead of sturaro.
 

Hust

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Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
The Agnelli's should open their pockets and close their mouths about 'financial difficulties'. Being the prime example of criminals they need moral 'support' and should pay for it. Its one thing to be 'smart' with investments and completely another to turn circles by selling one player to buy another.

Imagine a Roman Emperor sending out some handicapped(economically viable) gladiators in the Coliseum, them crawling towards each other for hours on... 'Times are tough' and 'Gladiatorial FFP'!!! Impoverished pharisees smh...
Are you calling AA a criminal?
 
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