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Orgut

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Juve 2017-18 midfield:

Marchisio, Pjanić, Kessie, Witsel, Khedira, Lemina, Gagliardini

:baus: ???
He is a good player but where did it come from? Would be a nice addition given the right price
Kessie is very young but honestly I think he is being overrated in here - People here rate him like he is the next big thing while the truth is he isnt very good under pressure he cant play against the big boys
He is currently not good enough although this may change and he does has potential - Lemina as much as I say he is overrated is much more mature and way better at the moment!
 

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So 6m for Witsel is a good deal

Tielemans too? Lol not sure how to spell his name
Don't think we're in for Tielemans who basically plays Marchisio's position. We'd groom one of Bentancur, Mandragora or maybe Gagliardini to replace him in the future.

For now, I don't think we need a Tielemans kind of player who would probably want to start from the outset wherever he goes next.
 

Orgut

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rank which would rather buy-do next year :

- Draxler
- Tielemans
- Dahoud
- Tolisso
- Matuidi
- Fabregas
- Oscar
- Give Pjaca a chance
Pjaca and get him a chance doesnt have to do with the others.. (maybe Draxler and Oscare are connected but definitely not the rest)
From the rest its definitely Tielemans vs Dahoud - The later is more proven but I like the first one more
Matuidi - Honestly the only reason we even mention him is because we were linked with him - He is nothing special and no one dream of him...
Tolisso is good but also gets too much hype by the media
Fabregas - Is great but I think he is too slow for us and also this ship has sailed (wouldnt mind a loan in January till the end of the season though)
Oscar - Is he still alive?
Draxler - could be good but he would also cost a lot...

From the really expensive ones its Verratti Sanchez for me
From the reasonable sums for great players but not realistic - Vidal
Young with potential Tielemans is a player I like
Pjaca needs some time but needs to be fit as well
attackers: Finisher needed so a young guy with potential or even better give Moise Kean more chances!
 

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Don't think we're in for Tielemans who basically plays Marchisio's position. We'd groom one of Bentancur, Mandragora or maybe Gagliardini to replace him in the future.

For now, I don't think we need a Tielemans kind of player who would probably want to start from the outset wherever he goes next.
I don't think Bentancur plays Marchisios position, either Mandragora or Sensi imo. No idea who Gagliardini is
 
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    an ex-Atalanta manager[who knows the guys in charge there] was on Top Planet[other Juve channel] and said Kessie would come here in January. Mandragora[loan] would replace him till June. Caldara[Fab is in love with him] and Gagliardini would be for the summer. Total cost would be in the 55m range + Spinazzola.

    so in January would could see Witsel and Kessie here.

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    I don't think Bentancur plays Marchisios position, either Mandragora or Sensi imo. No idea who Gagliardini is
    Gagliardini plays in front of the defence. Bentancur plays the Pogba at Juve position. :D
     

    Akshen

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    an ex-Atalanta manager[who knows the guys in charge there] was on Top Planet[other Juve channel] and said Kessie would come here in January. Mandragora[loan] would replace him till June. Caldara[Fab is in love with him] and Gagliardini would be for the summer. Total cost would be in the 55m range + Spinazzola.

    so in January would could see Witsel and Kessie here.

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    Gagliardini plays in front of the defence. Bentancur plays the Pogba at Juve position. :D
    That looks great for the future. What kind of defender Caldara is? Could he possibly play RB?
    Kessie and Witsel for Asa and Lemina (AFCON) and we can also sell Hernanes to Genoa this way.
    If the numbers are correct for 61m we can get:
    Kessie, Witsel, Gagliardini (no idea who he is) and Caldara is it a good deal?
    And whats the point in buying Kessie in january if he goes to AFCON too?
     
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    That looks great for the future. What kind of defender Caldara is? Could he possibly play RB?
    Kessie and Witsel for Asa and Lemina (AFCON) and we can also sell Hernanes to Genoa this way.
    If the numbers are correct for 61m we can get:
    Kessie, Witsel, Gagliardini (no idea who he is) and Caldara is it a good deal?
    And whats the point in buying Kessie in january if he goes to AFCON too?
    Caldara is a Barzagli type CB.
    60m is better than the 75m they mentioned yesterday. :D
    :think:
     

    zizinho

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    an ex-Atalanta manager[who knows the guys in charge there] was on Top Planet[other Juve channel] and said Kessie would come here in January. Mandragora[loan] would replace him till June. Caldara[Fab is in love with him] and Gagliardini would be for the summer. Total cost would be in the 55m range + Spinazzola.

    so in January would could see Witsel and Kessie here.

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    Gagliardini plays in front of the defence. Bentancur plays the Pogba at Juve position. :D
    Thought so, looked like that from the highlights i saw :tup:

    So Gagliardini is also a DM? Nice, love this new obsession Beppe has with signing all the young italian DMs/registas out there. Mandragora on loan there and Kessie coming here in January (or February, because AFCON) would be another amazing coup by us. Then the other 2 in the summer too, damn. Hope its true

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    That looks great for the future. What kind of defender Caldara is? Could he possibly play RB?
    Kessie and Witsel for Asa and Lemina (AFCON) and we can also sell Hernanes to Genoa this way.
    If the numbers are correct for 61m we can get:
    Kessie, Witsel, Gagliardini (no idea who he is) and Caldara is it a good deal?
    And whats the point in buying Kessie in january if he goes to AFCON too?
    We can't sell Nanes unless a vice Marchisio arrives. Or you want to see Lemina there again?
     

    Akshen

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    Thought so, looked like that from the highlights i saw :tup:

    So Gagliardini is also a DM? Nice, love this new obsession Beppe has with signing all the young italian DMs/registas out there. Mandragora on loan there and Kessie coming here in January (or February, because AFCON) would be another amazing coup by us. Then the other 2 in the summer too, damn. Hope its true
    Thinking about it again, buying players like Kessie in january is actually pretty good idea. We are usually still playing in the Italian cup and Serie A is almost won already so we can play the youth more, something we are afraid of at the start of the season.
     
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    Wonder what will happen with Benatia if we really buy him, our defence will be crowded unless Barzagli retires (hopefully he wont).
    Maybe we buy him now because we're afraid to wait and lose him so we could still loan him out and bring him here when Chiello/Barza leave/retire.
     

    zizinho

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    btw, the AFCON is only for 3 weeks during which we will play 4 Serie A games (maybe one Coppa game too, no idea when it's supposed to be played) and not a single CL game. Hardly a reason to sign an extra CM just for that, if we are getting one its because we need him for CL and rest of Serie A
     

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    Don't think we're in for Tielemans who basically plays Marchisio's position. We'd groom one of Bentancur, Mandragora or maybe Gagliardini to replace him in the future.

    For now, I don't think we need a Tielemans kind of player who would probably want to start from the outset wherever he goes next.
    aside from witsel, who else would you try and sign in January?
     
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